Gavin Harrison here! - Page 97

SantiBanks · #**3841** 11-15-2009, 01:17 PM

Hi Gavin,

I connected my very cheap surroundset to my dvd-a/sacd player this weekend (because I sold my monitors to make room for a good 5.1 set) and popped in the Fear of a blank planet/Nil recurring and Insurgentes dvd-a's. They sound wonderful! Even on crappy computer speakers!
Your drumkit sounds impressive and all over the place (in a good way!). Did you help with the surround mixes (as in giving feedback about how you like your drums to sound in surround) or was everything done by Steven himself?

And a general question for anybody here; does anyone have more details about the dvd-audio release of The Incident? Looking forward to hear that in surround!

Cheers!
Santi

p.s.: and thanks for the Indian interview. Nice to see that the HMH show in Amsterdam was very memorable! It certainly is in my memory! You guys seem to grow and amaze me more and more every show I attend.

Luke Bonham · #**3842** 11-15-2009, 09:11 PM

Hey Gavin, how are you?

Periodically, I feel tired of listening to myself. Not just a lack of creativity, I get bored of what I play, my musical ideas.

Usually I do nothing for it, as my master mentor me: he says that it's a psychic process wich leds to an "inconscious evolution".

As if mind would do a crop rotation for new musical seeds. You know what I mean?

Does this happen to you? Are you agree with my master or do you do something for it?

Thank you for your answer.

drumbumhamza · #**3843** 11-16-2009, 02:00 PM

Hello Sir,
Thought you might want to have a look at this.
Page 2 of Daily News and Analysis.
PT is creating quite a stir here.
These guys are expecting a crowd of more than 10k. :P

Gavin Harrison · #**3844** 11-17-2009, 02:15 PM

Hi Ramtin HajatDoust

I want to buy microphones for my drum kit but I don't know exactly because of what reasons you are using "EV N/D 468" on your toms? Super Cardioid polar pattern? 20Hz - 22 KHz? Color sound of it? anything else?

I use those EV's live and I used them in my studio for many years. I first saw Simon Phillips using them - and I know how very particular Simon is - so I thought I'd give them a go. They sound really nice on the toms - and are a very good size for getting around a slightly complex setup like mine. PT's sound engineer Ian Bond really preferred them over the mics he was using before on the toms - I can't remember exactly what they were but they were clip on the drum rim mics. At the moment I'm using Sennheiser 421's on my toms in my home studio. I slightly preferred the tone of them on the lower toms - but they are very big and a bit too ungainly for live use in my opinion.

Hi SantiBanks

Your drumkit sounds impressive and all over the place (in a good way!). Did you help with the surround mixes (as in giving feedback about how you like your drums to sound in surround) or was everything done by Steven himself?

The surround mix is just the panning out of the stereo mix. I was very involved in the sound of the drums of the stereo mix.

Hi Luke Bonham

Periodically, I feel tired of listening to myself. Not just a lack of creativity, I get bored of what I play, my musical ideas.Does this happen to you? Are you agree with my master or do you do something for it?

I think every musician goes through periods like this. Knowing how to bring yourself out of those periods can be the real challenge. It's one of the reasons that I got more into 'rhythmic manipulation' through thought process - rather than "I need more technique and speed". You might find some ideas that would help you in my first book "Rhythmic Illusions".

Hi drumbumhamza,

Thought you might want to have a look at this.
Page 2 of Daily News and Analysis.
PT is creating quite a stir here.
These guys are expecting a crowd of more than 10k. :P

thanks very much for posting the article. We're getting very excited about coming to play there. I think it's going to be really amazing. Also I think we have chance to play more than 90 minutes!!!

cheers
Gavin

drumbumhamza · #**3845** 11-17-2009, 09:22 PM

Hello again,
My sister has been pestering me to ask you about the tentative set list. Any juice on that ? I hope you play Nil Recurring and Futile (you dint play them when i saw youl in London :( )
Would you like to see pictures of the venue ? I teach drums in the same institute, I'd be more than happy to post a couple of pics. :)

Gavin Harrison · #**3846** 11-18-2009, 01:33 AM

Hi drumbumhamza,
sorry to disappoint you but I really don't think we're going to play "Futile" or "Nil Recurring" - they aren't currently in our pool of rehearsed songs. I don't know exactly what we'll play yet...there might be a few surprises. Yes I'd be interested to see the venue. Can you send me a pic or two via the 'private messages'?

cheers
Gavin

Fabio · #**3847** 11-18-2009, 05:59 PM

Hi Gavin!!
How are you??

I heard the new song of Claudio Baglioni: "Niente Più"
Pio Spiriti said that you played it but i don't seem to recognize.
Have you recorded it?

Thanx to availability!!

Fabio.

Gavin Harrison · #**3848** 11-18-2009, 06:43 PM

Hi Fabio,
yes I recorded the drum track about 6 months ago at home. Not too many big fills - I was just trying to get a good laid back feel to it. It's quite a simple song - I didn't think it needed anything else.

cheers
Gavin

Fabio · #**3849** 11-18-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin Harrison

Hi Fabio,
yes I recorded the drum track about 6 months ago at home. Not too many big fills - I was just trying to get a good laid back feel to it. It's quite a simple song - I didn't think it needed anything else.

cheers
Gavin

Thanx a million for your answer!!
Yes also in my opinion is a quite pop song and not need another!!
Simple, precise and clear!!

Good evening Gavin!

Fabio

nolonx · #**3850** 11-18-2009, 07:37 PM

It's nice to listen to your favorite drummer playing in a totally different setting from what you are used to.

Thank you Gavin for being such an inspiring person. Your drumming is my way out the black periods Luke Bonham was talking about a few posts before. And for being the nicest person on earth, as the guys from Notak in Italy tell me every time, and for taking time to reply to out questions here.

I'm really looking forward to meet you some day, just to thank you personally.

Kalma · #**3851** 11-18-2009, 11:49 PM

Hi Gavin,

you might know (or probably have) the ipod touch/iphone.

There are some nice Apps to train some music-stuff, for example harmonics, intervalls etc..

So know I thought of programming an App, that plays some polyrhythmics etc and then you have to check which time-signature it was and so on..
I think it would be a great method to train the ear and to get a little bit closer to those pretty complicated stuff.

What do you think?

Thanks
David

Phil Brodermann · #**3852** 11-18-2009, 11:54 PM

Hi Gavin, how's the long tour? I was wondering if your DVD will be released in time for the Poole clinic? I'd like to get a signed version if possible :) A quick question, when you used an SM 91 and a D6 on the kick live, would you put a high pass on the D6 and/or a low pass on the 91? So that you have one channel with sub freq, and one channel with punch and click? Thanks for your time, Phil.

SantiBanks · #**3853** 11-19-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalma

So know I thought of programming an App, that plays some polyrhythmics etc and then you have to check which time-signature it was and so on..
I think it would be a great method to train the ear and to get a little bit closer to those pretty complicated stuff.

Hi David, sounds like an interesting idea. I was thinking of an app with polys in mind too but I had a bit of a different idea:

It might be interesting to create an algorithm that makes up poly sequences. Then you have to tap these sequences with your fingers, along to a metronome. So the left hand taps a pattern in 5, the right hand a pattern in 7. That way you are practicing a possibility of 5 over 7.
Because its all math and therefore random, it gives a lot of pattern options and it might give someone musical inspiration.

Could be very practical in public transport for example. A simple and efficient way to practice polys without making a sound at all.

Kalma · #**3854** 11-19-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SantiBanks

It might be interesting to create an algorithm that makes up poly sequences. Then you have to tap these sequences with your fingers, along to a metronome. So the left hand taps a pattern in 5, the right hand a pattern in 7. That way you are practicing a possibility of 5 over 7.
Because its all math and therefore random, it gives a lot of pattern options and it might give someone musical inspiration.

Could be very practical in public transport for example. A simple and efficient way to practice polys without making a sound at all.

Yes that would be a gread idea as well, I think there could be created a great app!
(do you have a ipod or iphone?)

I think tapping the patterns would be very hard as it would have to be very exact until the computer acceppts it..

We'll see!
Lets wait what the master sais!

All the best
DAvid

king_chicken · #**3855** 11-19-2009, 09:32 PM

Hi Gavin,

If you could name 5 albums that have shaped your playing the most, what you say?
I'm going through a period of intense listening at the moment so I just need some suggestions what to check out.
Cheers.

Gavin Harrison · #**3856** Yesterday, 12:36 AM

Hi Kalma

So know I thought of programming an App, that plays some polyrhythmics etc and then you have to check which time-signature it was and so on..
I think it would be a great method to train the ear and to get a little bit closer to those pretty complicated stuff.

Great idea. I think an app that shows you how close to a click you are (like the original "Russian Dragon") would be great. With a line in the middle where the perfect time is and then a scale either side to show you (to the left) that you are tapping behind the beat - and a scale to the right to show how far you might be tapping ahead of the beat. The scale could be in 21 segments - one in the middle for 'perfect' and 10 either side. Each step could be 1 millisecond or 2 milliseconds or 3 milliseconds.

plus a tap tempo like this http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm

and then a polyrhythm generator. Type in your first number like '4' and that plays one sound - then type in a second number like '7' and that plays a different sound and then you'll get to hear what 7 over 4 sounds like. Set any tempo you want. Then have the "Russian Dragon" (part as described before) applied to either the first or second number. Then you could mute the first or second number but keep tapping it and monitoring it via the "Russian Dragon" part.
So you might setup 7 over 4 - then once you get the feel of it - mute the 7 part and start tapping it. The app would then show how accurate (in % ) you're tapping the 7 whilst still hearing the 4.

Hi Phil Brodermann

how's the long tour? I was wondering if your DVD will be released in time for the Poole clinic?

this tour ends 11th of December. I don't know if the PT live DVD will be ready by then.

A quick question, when you used an SM 91 and a D6 on the kick live, would you put a high pass on the D6 and/or a low pass on the 91? So that you have one channel with sub freq, and one channel with punch and click?

I don't really know - I can ask Ian our sound guy. I imagine the clicky-ness is coming from the SM91 and the low thump is coming from the D6. The other day the SM91 lead broke and we replaced it with a Beta 91 - and it sounded very different. I much prefer the SM91.

Hi king_chicken

If you could name 5 albums that have shaped your playing the most, what you say?

across the years these were important records to me..

Dizrhythmia 1987 " Dizrhythmia"
Yasuaki Shimizu 1989 "Aduna"
Mick Karn - 1995 "The Tooth Mother"
Porcupine Tree 2005 "Deadwing"
Gavin Harrison & 05Ric 2009 "Circles" (and "Drop" from 2007)

there's a big list of recordings I've made over the years here http://www.drumset.demon.co.uk/recordings.htm

cheers
Gavin

Kalma · #**3857** Yesterday, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Harrison

Hi Kalma

So know I thought of programming an App, that plays some polyrhythmics etc and then you have to check which time-signature it was and so on..
I think it would be a great method to train the ear and to get a little bit closer to those pretty complicated stuff.

Great idea. I think an app that shows you how close to a click you are (like the original "Russian Dragon") would be great. With a line in the middle where the perfect time is and then a scale either side to show you (to the left) that you are tapping behind the beat - and a scale to the right to show how far you might be tapping ahead of the beat. The scale could be in 21 segments - one in the middle for 'perfect' and 10 either side. Each step could be 1 millisecond or 2 milliseconds or 3 milliseconds.

plus a tap tempo like this http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm

and then a polyrhythm generator. Type in your first number like '4' and that plays one sound - then type in a second number like '7' and that plays a different sound and then you'll get to hear what 7 over 4 sounds like. Set any tempo you want. Then have the "Russian Dragon" (part as described before) applied to either the first or second number. Then you could mute the first or second number but keep tapping it and monitoring it via the "Russian Dragon" part.
So you might setup 7 over 4 - then once you get the feel of it - mute the 7 part and start tapping it. The app would then show how accurate (in % ) you're tapping the 7 whilst still hearing the 4.

cheers
Gavin

So your first idea would be like the rmp5 from roland, there's a time check function integrated that show the accuration.

Maybe we could invent together some functions for such an app and then I will see who could programm such an app or I will learn to do it by myself! (as i just programm websites etc)

Would be great if there could be invented something like this :)

By the way: Gavin, do you have an iphone or ipod touch?

Thanks
David

Swiss Matthias · #**3858** Yesterday, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin Harrison

plus a tap tempo like this http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm

Wow, great tool, thanks for the link, Gavin!
That way I can practice getting the right tempo out of nowhere:)!

Swiss Matthias · #**3859** Yesterday, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Harrison

and then a polyrhythm generator. Type in your first number like '4' and that plays one sound - then type in a second number like '7' and that plays a different sound and then you'll get to hear what 7 over 4 sounds like. Set any tempo you want. Then have the "Russian Dragon" (part as described before) applied to either the first or second number. Then you could mute the first or second number but keep tapping it and monitoring it via the "Russian Dragon" part.
So you might setup 7 over 4 - then once you get the feel of it - mute the 7 part and start tapping it. The app would then show how accurate (in % ) you're tapping the 7 whilst still hearing the 4.

Cool idea, too! Do that, Kalma :D!! With a weblink ;)

Phil Brodermann · #**3860** Today, 12:02 AM

Thanks for your reply, however I was refering to your new 'Rhythmic designs' DVD, will that be released in time for the clinic? I would appreciate you asking Ian about the bass drum mic's. Thanks for your time.

Tom Sawyer · #**3861** Today, 07:43 AM

What a great show in Lisbon yesterday, Gavin. The new songs sound amazing live. Tony Levin with Stick Men was a great surprise too, people should check them out. Pat Mastelotto is a beast!

I noticed you are using a new China on your left side, that thing is huge, what is it? Is it a 22? You seem to use it quite a bit on the new set.

Have a good time today in Porto!