DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > Drum Gear > Drums

Drums All about Drums and Drum Kits

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 06-11-2009, 09:21 PM
andSometimesY's Avatar
andSometimesY andSometimesY is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 203
Default Tom Setup

Today I set up my new (not really, but new to me) Tama Starclassic Performer (birch) and having only owned one drum set, I have been having difficulty finding the "perfect" tom placement. I feel like I am playing on a giant's kit. It also has an extra floor tom (6 piece) that I am not used to so I don't know if I am setting that up right. I know that there is no right or wrong in placement, it is whatever feels comfortable. The problem is, I can't find a comfortable spot for all of the drums. My question to you guys is, Does anyone have pictures of their 6 piece setup that doesn't utilize a rack? I won't necessarily copy, I just need some ideas.

P.S. The drums sound great! I can only imagine what the bubinga version sounds like.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-11-2009, 09:47 PM
jondrumming's Avatar
jondrumming jondrumming is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 314
Default Re: Tom Setup

From my experiences with trying new setups both on my electronic 6-piece and the 6-piece drums at my school, this is (arguably of course) the most comfortable setup achievable without a rack, all you'd need is a double tom stand.

That might not be your cymbal setup, or your drum sizes, but that should at least give you an idea. Also, check out this thread for real-life shots of this type of setup.
Attached Images
 
__________________
My Kit
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-11-2009, 10:02 PM
Drummertist's Avatar
Drummertist Drummertist is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 605
Default Re: Tom Setup

jondrumming, how did you get all the images and piece them together like that? That's cool! It's there a specific program you used?
__________________
DRüMMER+IST
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-11-2009, 10:28 PM
jondrumming's Avatar
jondrumming jondrumming is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 314
Default Re: Tom Setup

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drummertist View Post
jondrumming, how did you get all the images and piece them together like that? That's cool! It's there a specific program you used?
Haha yep! http://mitglied.lycos.de/Gerulat/DD/Test.html

The site is in Dutch I think, but there's an obvious download section. Once you download it (it takes a pretty looong time, it saves like thousands of images of cymbals and drums) KEEP ALL THE FILES AND FOLDERS IN ONE FOLDER otherwise it'll get all confusing! call the folder "Kit Constructor", so you don't lose track of it.

when you want to open up the program itself, double click "StartKC", but hover the mouse over it and make sure it's the NT Command Script version, because there's two StartKC's. Once you click, a black dialog box will appear, and a few seconds later, the program will open. Then play around with the drop down menus (there's sections for cymbals, drums, pedals, etc.) and build your kit from there!
Attached Images
 
__________________
My Kit
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-11-2009, 10:35 PM
eddiehimself's Avatar
eddiehimself eddiehimself is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Room 409
Posts: 2,565
Default Re: Tom Setup

Quote:
Originally Posted by jondrumming View Post
Haha yep! http://mitglied.lycos.de/Gerulat/DD/Test.html

The site is in Dutch I think, but there's an obvious download section. Once you download it (it takes a pretty looong time, it saves like thousands of images of cymbals and drums) KEEP ALL THE FILES AND FOLDERS IN ONE FOLDER otherwise it'll get all confusing! call the folder "Kit Constructor", so you don't lose track of it.

when you want to open up the program itself, double click "StartKC", but hover the mouse over it and make sure it's the NT Command Script version, because there's two StartKC's. Once you click, a black dialog box will appear, and a few seconds later, the program will open. Then play around with the drop down menus (there's sections for cymbals, drums, pedals, etc.) and build your kit from there!
I've always wondered what that program is. Thanks JD. Btw, i think by "dutch" you mean "Deutsch". It's a German site, interesting you said dutch though as i thought German would have been the obvious guess lol.

aStY, the SCPs are really great kits mate glad to hear of it. I would agree with this sort of setup, it allows you more flexiblity in terms of height and that. I also like being able to have the ride cymbal where you would find the 2nd tom.
__________________
Underworked, underpaid and under-sexed...

EHs Music Facebook Page

Last edited by eddiehimself; 06-11-2009 at 10:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-11-2009, 10:46 PM
jondrumming's Avatar
jondrumming jondrumming is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 314
Default Re: Tom Setup

Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiehimself View Post
I've always wondered what that program is. Thanks JD. Btw, i think by "dutch" you mean "Deutsch". It's a German site, interesting you said dutch though as i thought German would have been the obvious guess lol.
Anytime Ed
oh seriously? lol i didnt check, I just remembered hearing somewhere that it was in "Deutsch" :P
__________________
My Kit
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-12-2009, 05:34 AM
razorx's Avatar
razorx razorx is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Phillipsburg, NJ USA
Posts: 2,215
Default Re: Tom Setup

These are mine, they are also Tamas. You should invest in a double tom stand if you already don't have one. Mounting toms on a bass drum is very impractical to me and i just don't understand how it's even possible to hit them comfortably. http://drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40367
__________________
Youtube: youtube.com/simpleplandrummer
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-13-2009, 08:01 AM
andSometimesY's Avatar
andSometimesY andSometimesY is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 203
Default Re: Tom Setup

Quote:
Originally Posted by razorx View Post
These are mine, they are also Tamas. You should invest in a double tom stand if you already don't have one. Mounting toms on a bass drum is very impractical to me and i just don't understand how it's even possible to hit them comfortably. http://drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40367
Cool set! I have a double tom stand for the two floor toms that I have but not for the rack toms. I want to have the floor toms at a vertical angle but I cannot figure out how to make them go low enough for my preference so I have to angle them. Do you guys know how to combat the problem of discomfort with the low floor tom? It seems that I am twisting too much to hit it and I have pushed it up as far as possible.

I need to get a pic of my setup for you guys to look at. It would be easier to explain my problems and I want to show it off. Don't have a digital cam, though, might have to borrow one.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-13-2009, 11:59 AM
eddiehimself's Avatar
eddiehimself eddiehimself is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Room 409
Posts: 2,565
Default Re: Tom Setup

Quote:
Originally Posted by andSometimesY View Post
I need to get a pic of my setup for you guys to look at. It would be easier to explain my problems and I want to show it off. Don't have a digital cam, though, might have to borrow one.
digital cameras are like £10 these days! Well whilst you're at it don't forget to take some nice shots and stick em on the "your gear" forum :).
__________________
Underworked, underpaid and under-sexed...

EHs Music Facebook Page
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-14-2009, 06:43 AM
05WideGuy's Avatar
05WideGuy 05WideGuy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Slidell, LA.
Posts: 145
Default Re: Tom Setup

I start my new setup by first setting up my throne, Bass, Snare, and hihats. Then I set everything else up for comfort and playability. I like all my toms to be as close as they can be to each other. Then I set my cymbals up the same way.
__________________
Mapex 6 Piece Saturn, Cherry Sparkle
SABIAN AA
2005 HD Wide Glide (Ride It Like Ya Stole It)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-14-2009, 09:18 PM
George@drums182's Avatar
George@drums182 George@drums182 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: London
Posts: 27
Default Re: Tom Setup

That program you used to create the drum kit looks awsome, im going to have to download it soon. I think the set up you have created on there with the double tom stand is great, and if i had enough money to create my own kit, that would be egzactly it, i love that whole set up, its my birthday in a few weeks and depending on my money i might try to get a set up a little some thing like that.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-14-2009, 09:42 PM
Ian Ian is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 685
Default Re: Tom Setup

By some of your comments, particularly the one about the floor tom angles, I'm inferring you either sit low, are short, or both, but if you like your rack toms higher or have a shorter bass drum, I advise mounting one tom off the bass drum and another off a cymbal arm. I found this setup allows me to keep my hi hat where I want it and I can still get to the floor tom quickly enough. Also, if you are open to raising your ride cymbal you can put it at an angle over or slightly to the side of your second tom.

In these pics I have a 10, 12, 8, and 15. I usually don't have the 8, so the 15 is closer. This setup is very comfortable and it is just about the only comfortable way for me to play multiple rack toms.

For your floor toms, have you set up your L-arms to point down? They can get really low if you do this and spread the legs of the stand to which you mount them. For two floor toms I usually put one on my left and one on my right, but sometimes I rock two at once on the right (I'm right handed).



Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-14-2009, 11:40 PM
White Rabbbit's Avatar
White Rabbbit White Rabbbit is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 56
Default Re: Tom Setup

It seems like I'm the minority in that I like my toms mounted right above my base. I don't like base drum mounts however, so I use duel cymbal / tom stands to mount them. I find that using a double tom stand on the left of my bass causes me to favor my left side, making it more difficult to get any fast stuff going on my floor toms, especially my far one.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-15-2009, 12:31 AM
GRUNTERSDAD's Avatar
GRUNTERSDAD GRUNTERSDAD is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Seminole, Florida
Posts: 14,762
Default Re: Tom Setup

I would say try a rack of you want your toms over the bass drum.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Follower of the Famularo Philosophy.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-15-2009, 01:10 AM
Doug Masters's Avatar
Doug Masters Doug Masters is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 510
Default Re: Tom Setup

Hey Grunter, is that an Aquarian double kick patch? If so how do you like it? Thanks
__________________
DW Performance
Yamaha Oak Custom
Zildjian
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-15-2009, 01:39 AM
GRUNTERSDAD's Avatar
GRUNTERSDAD GRUNTERSDAD is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Seminole, Florida
Posts: 14,762
Default Re: Tom Setup

It is or was. Since I don't do much double bass playing I took it off. It worked fine while I had it.
__________________
Follower of the Famularo Philosophy.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com