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Old 05-24-2009, 06:55 PM
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Default Vic Firth Nova sticks?

Has anyone ever used these? Are these seconds or something?

I need some cheap sticks but I don't want them to be made of like... driftwood. haha


Does Vic Firth actually make these?
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:20 PM
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They're seconds. Try the ones at Wal Mart.
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:31 PM
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They're seconds. Try the ones at Wal Mart.
Seriously? They have them at Wal Mart?

Okay, I'll pass on them then.....
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:14 AM
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Seriously? They have them at Wal Mart?

Okay, I'll pass on them then.....
Wal Mart carries a brand call "First Act', on the the oder of $4.95 US for two pair. They're hickory and actually for the price, great for a beginner who's hacking $ away. They could be coated with a clear lacquer spray (from another isle) and be respectable for the price.

Do a google search, there's some decent reviews of em'.
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:08 AM
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Well because sticks are about $8 a pair now, I can't afford to keep buying nice sticks just to practice with at home. I don't like chewing up my nice sticks either. So I've ordered the 12 pair brick of Nova sticks myself (7A nylon) to use at home and save the nice sticks for gigs. They haven't arrived yet, but when they do I'll be sure to post a review.
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:10 AM
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Well because sticks are about $8 a pair now, I can't afford to keep buying nice sticks just to practice with at home. I don't like chewing up my nice sticks either. So I've ordered the 12 pair brick of Nova sticks myself (7A nylon) to use at home and save the nice sticks for gigs. They haven't arrived yet, but when they do I'll be sure to post a review.
Alright thanks dude! I feel the same way.

Sticks are so expensive. We're just hitting things! XD
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:25 AM
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A pair of brushes is like $20. There is no shortage of hickory trees I am aware of, sticks should be about $5, brushes about $10. Cheap sticks should be anywhere less than $5, since you pay for the pitch pairing and nice finish of ProMark, Vic Firth, Regal Tip, Vater. Drumheads are worse though (its over $100 for me to replace the heads on one of my kits). Drumming is expensive! They should raise the price on guitar picks too!
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:43 AM
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A pair of brushes is like $20. There is no shortage of hickory trees I am aware of, sticks should be about $5, brushes about $10. Cheap sticks should be anywhere less than $5, since you pay for the pitch pairing and nice finish of ProMark, Vic Firth, Regal Tip, Vater. Drumheads are worse though (its over $100 for me to replace the heads on one of my kits). Drumming is expensive! They should raise the price on guitar picks too!
I know man! I should have picked a better hobby... like billiards ;D

hahaa guitar picks are easy to make though, so.....
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:01 AM
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well the brick came in today, and I had no idea what to expect. Well I've only played with one pair so far, but I've looked at the rest. There's nothing wrong with these sticks at all. They are 7A nylons and are sized about the same as regular Vic Firth 7A and feel about the same. The finish is even and smooth (unlike some Pro Marks I've seen) and they are PITCH PAIRED (unlike Vater sticks I've had). I did my typical iPod shuffle practice session and went through everything from Ray Charles to Van Halen and these sticks held up nicely. They are no less durable than Vic Firth sticks. Some of the pairs have dark grains on them (I guess those are the "cosmetic blemishes" they talk about) but look no different than any piece of furniture (or anything else made of wood). Nova sticks are CERTAINLY worth having as practice sticks and even gig pairs if you aren't looking for any specialty models.
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:07 PM
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well the brick came in today, and I had no idea what to expect. Well I've only played with one pair so far, but I've looked at the rest. There's nothing wrong with these sticks at all. They are 7A nylons and are sized about the same as regular Vic Firth 7A and feel about the same. The finish is even and smooth (unlike some Pro Marks I've seen) and they are PITCH PAIRED (unlike Vater sticks I've had). I did my typical iPod shuffle practice session and went through everything from Ray Charles to Van Halen and these sticks held up nicely. They are no less durable than Vic Firth sticks. Some of the pairs have dark grains on them (I guess those are the "cosmetic blemishes" they talk about) but look no different than any piece of furniture (or anything else made of wood). Nova sticks are CERTAINLY worth having as practice sticks and even gig pairs if you aren't looking for any specialty models.
Hey man! THANKS!

I think I'll probably get them in 5a's. I'm not doing any gigging anyways. For like $40, you can't beat 'em. That's only like 3 bucks a pair. SICK.

Thanks again for the review :)
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Old 05-31-2009, 03:51 PM
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The studio I practice at has them for sale, so I've seen a few pairs. They are horribly inconsistent. Weight varies greatly between pairs of the same model, and wood often has more than purely cosmetic faults. Think knots right in the middle of the stick and grains going almost perpendicular to the stick. There might be some good pairs, but you'll probably have to sift through a lot of sticks to find them.
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I bought a brick of Nova 2 years ago, 5A, and one of them was warped. The other 23 were just fine. I bought nylon tipped sticks and they are fine. It doesn't take much not to meet the first standards and be selected as seconds.

What Fiery has seen must have been bad news. Mine were fine.
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:50 PM
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I bought a brick of Nova 2 years ago, 5A, and one of them was warped. The other 23 were just fine. I bought nylon tipped sticks and they are fine. It doesn't take much not to meet the first standards and be selected as seconds.

What Fiery has seen must have been bad news. Mine were fine.
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:35 PM
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Well I got 12 good pairs which is more than I got from Vater (I've had a few unmatched pairs, and dead sounding sticks from them) and ProMark (had a few rough sticks) and certainly better than Zildjian sticks
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Old 06-01-2009, 03:14 AM
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Well I got 12 good pairs which is more than I got from Vater (I've had a few unmatched pairs, and dead sounding sticks from them) and ProMark (had a few rough sticks) and certainly better than Zildjian sticks
yeah, a few of my vaters had some noticeable flaws and got grinded really easily.

I'm afraid that the only reason I break sticks is because I do rimshots a lot.


I got a vic firth 5a brick in December and broke them all last week, which is pretty good, right?

I mean, 2 pair a month...
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:00 PM
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I had a pair of Vic Firth 5As that lasted about 6 years, then I bought one of those buy 3 get one pair free deals months ago, I'm still using all four. Curiously the Buddy Rich models last only a bit longer than a month even though they are thicker sticks. Back in high school I remember using Vic Firth marching sticks and the Tom Aungst models (the red ones) would only last a short time while the pair of MS2s I lasted at least 2 years (I don't use them anymore). Vic Firth's durability is pretty questionable now, but I think they have some of the best variety. Regal Tips are my new favorite though. The Vater sticks I had, despite being terrible last forever :) A pair of Super Jazz sticks has lasted 3 years, the Manhattan 7A lasted about one year, and the Sweet Ride (thinnest model they make) has been about another year. I guess you pay for that though because these sticks have a dense sound which is kind of lifeless. Sticks are wood, and wood isn't perfect. EX: baseball bats, hit the ball the right way it can fly hundreds of feet, hit it the wrong way and you can snap the bat...
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:27 PM
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Just broke my last pair of sticks... :/

Gonna order the nova brick today.
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:22 AM
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just broke the first Nova stick out of the first pair in the set today. I've really been giving them a workout, more so than I usually play with (also trying to build endurance--Buddy Rich style). Oh well I've got 11 more pairs (I sorted them out by pitch too since some of them were off) Highly recommended cheap practice sticks!
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Wow, I can't disagree with the assessments in this thread more. My in-laws got me a brick of these sticks for Christmas, and they are HORRIBLE. Inconsistant as heck, many pairs have one stick that is slightly lighter than the other, they break way more frequently than the Silver Fox sticks I use regularly (and more often than the standard Vics I used to use), a few of them had dead spots on the tips (these were wood tipped, not nylon)...

Honestly, there wasn't a single pair in the brick I used more than when I first tried 'em out. Not one. It's important to practice as you play, and these sticks make that all but impossible. It sounds like I may have just gotten a bad brick...but that's the point...you never know if that is going to happen to you with these sticks...and if it does, you can't really complain and get a refund/new sticks like with the regular line-ups.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:45 PM
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Wow, I can't disagree with the assessments in this thread more. My in-laws got me a brick of these sticks for Christmas, and they are HORRIBLE. Inconsistant as heck, many pairs have one stick that is slightly lighter than the other, they break way more frequently than the Silver Fox sticks I use regularly (and more often than the standard Vics I used to use), a few of them had dead spots on the tips (these were wood tipped, not nylon)...

Honestly, there wasn't a single pair in the brick I used more than when I first tried 'em out. Not one. It's important to practice as you play, and these sticks make that all but impossible. It sounds like I may have just gotten a bad brick...but that's the point...you never know if that is going to happen to you with these sticks...and if it does, you can't really complain and get a refund/new sticks like with the regular line-ups.
It does sound like you got a bad brick, because mine arrived today, and they're freaking awesome. I can't believe I only paid $30. They played just as good as any Vic Firths I've owned. I love them.

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I have bought two bricks of 5a wooden tips and so far they are great. I am a medium hitter and play anything from metal to jazz and a pair of these sticks usually last me about two months. I usually just have to retire them because of the tips chipping off, I think I've only actually broken like 2 sticks. But anyway great buy for 40 bucks, I just can't see myself going back to paying 8 dollars a pair for sticks after using these. The weight of the pairs do vary somewhat throughout the brick but thats the same with bricks of any sticks. It works out great because I use the lighter sticks for jazz or instances where i need to play quiet and the heavier ones for everything else.
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I play vic firth 5bn and rarely brake sticks, they usually wear thru form the hats an fall off. They had a deal on once for putting your name on them and I unknowingly bought a brick of the novas and broke them all in 3 gigs well except for the couple that had the tips fly off. To make a long story short they are made from the wood that gets rejected from the american classic line usually because the grain is on an angle instead of going full length of the stick making them weak. They also use the old type of tip and application which make them more prone for coming off and breaking than the newer american classic tips that are guarenteed. IMO novas are junk and heres a pic of whats left the brick I had received.


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Yes in deed...it's a second hand make stick.
I have one VFN 5B stick left in my bag and basically the neck is chipped off. The other one got broken off easy on the tip and neck.

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I have never tried NOVA sticks, but I have used Pulse sticks from Musician's Friend, which are Vater seconds. They are just like a Vater 5A except for cosmentic flaws (which I like). They lasted me the same as Vater sticks. Then I went to my local drum shop, which was able to get me Vater seconds with no logos at $4.00 a pair. I had to buy a brick of twelve pairs. That is now how I go. Peace and goodwill.
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I've been using Nova rock n sticks for years. I find they last just as long as standard VF sticks, if not longer as they are slightly thicker in the taper. I've never had one lose a tip either. I usually buy them by the brick- comes out at about 4.17 a pair.
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They are about $8 here and the american classics are $10, I get a couple gigs and 1 to 2 rehearsals out of a set of american classics as they just wear thru from the hats and broke all 12 pair of novas in 3 gigs. I could see getting a couple bad pair in a brick but the whole brick I got was garbage.
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I have been using the VF American Standard 5B. I love th feel, great stick for me but I thought that the round tip was denting my single ply heads a bit. So I am trying the the regular 5B nylon tip sticks. Did not realize these are shorter than the AS model L16 3/6 opposed to L 16. The regular 5B 's feel like balsa wood in my hands...holy crap. So I am giving the NOVA 2B a try, for $35.00 for 12 pairs I feel it's worth a try, if they suck then I go back to the drawing board, maybe the extended 5B's?
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I have been using the VF American Standard 5B. I love th feel, great stick for me but I thought that the round tip was denting my single ply heads a bit. So I am trying the the regular 5B nylon tip sticks. Did not realize these are shorter than the AS model L16 3/6 opposed to L 16. The regular 5B 's feel like balsa wood in my hands...holy crap. So I am giving the NOVA 2B a try, for $35.00 for 12 pairs I feel it's worth a try, if they suck then I go back to the drawing board, maybe the extended 5B's?
So the Nova 2B's arrived yesterday. I tried out about 8 pairs. For $35.00 I have to say so far I think they are well worth it. I rolled a few pairs and they are pretty straight. I remember not too long ago I would go to a music store, the guy would put a bunch of stick on the table and I would have to choose from those. So I will use them this weekend on a gig and see. The 2B is naturally a bit heavier than my 5B's but I used to play 2B's for years so no big deal.
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Check out your local music store for deals. From time to time, my local stores will get these bags from Vic Firth, with ten pairs of unmarked sticks in them, and they sell them for $20 a bag! That's $2 a pair! I've been using them for years, as I always buy a bag when they get some in. I really can't feel any difference between these and the expensive, branded Vic Firth sticks. They're not weaker, and the weight is nice. They all seem straight. Just keep a look out
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I have done 4 gigs with these Nova sticks and have had no issues at all. The grain on some of the sticks may be a bit odd and maybe that could be a possible weak spot but so far no breaks. The weight of each stick feels just as good in my hands as the regular VF sticks.
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Sorry to bump this, but I am in two minds with these sticks.

I'll probably get some 5A wood and nylon tip NOVA, then pick up either one in the AS series, bit not both. I use wood tips, as my only nylon paid are huge (must be 7's) but I might end up transferring as the nylon may sound a bit better on the hi-hats.

What's the difference between NOVA and unbranded?
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