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Old 03-14-2009, 04:05 AM
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They likely slept through all their history classes in high school.
I can't stomach too many of the "I'm so hip" music magazines that try to clone the early Rolling Stone. They are of a generation raised on alternative in the 90's and IMO, lack an understanding of greatness past.

Rolling Stone for a long time was welded into the 67-75 timeframe and seemed too stodgy for prog and things like that.

I like classic rock, metal edge, kerrang and others of the ilk that showcase someone OTHER than just Springsteen, Dylan and U2.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:07 AM
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I can't stomach too many of the "I'm so hip" music magazines that try to clone the early Rolling Stone. They are of a generation raised on alternative in the 90's and IMO, lack an understanding of greatness past.

Rolling Stone for a long time was welded into the 67-75 timeframe and seemed too stodgy for prog and things like that.

I like classic rock, metal edge, kerrang and others of the ilk that showcase someone OTHER than just Springsteen, Dylan and U2.
Wait...does that mean you agree with me?
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:17 AM
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Wait...does that mean you agree with me?
Does that me you thought I agreed with Blender???? For a microsecond???
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:20 AM
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Does that me you thought I agreed with Blender???? For a microsecond???
I was knocking blastphemer...perhaps I should have used some comprehension.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:28 AM
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I was knocking blastphemer...perhaps I should have used some comprehension.
Trust me...I was completely outraged at the incredible bad taste blender showed. The moment I read that unbelievable nonsense, I thought of 3 dozen examples of bands/lyricists that are overpraised and much less talented than Neil Peart.

Most of those idiots did just a few years/albums before imploding. And yet Rush remains after 30 years.

The rock and roll hall of fame also seems to have an anal-cranial inversion problem for not inducting Rush.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:52 AM
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Trust me...I was completely outraged at the incredible bad taste blender showed. The moment I read that unbelievable nonsense, I thought of 3 dozen examples of bands/lyricists that are overpraised and much less talented than Neil Peart.

Most of those idiots did just a few years/albums before imploding. And yet Rush remains after 30 years.

The rock and roll hall of fame also seems to have an anal-cranial inversion problem for not inducting Rush.
YEAH, I enjoy my Smells like Teen Spirit, but it souldn't be used in the same sentence as. Masterpiece, lyricly or otherwise.
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Old 03-14-2009, 05:18 AM
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YEAH, I enjoy my Smells like Teen Spirit, but it souldn't be used in the same sentence as. Masterpiece, lyricly or otherwise.
If I were to pick the single most outrageously overhyped and overpraised band/person it would be Nirvana and Kurt Cobain.

Nevermind was decent, but it doesn't overshadow much at all.

"With the lights out its less dangerous
Here we are now
Entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious
Here we are now
Entertain us
A mulatto
An albino
A mosquito
My libido"


Not deep, or prophetic.
Not exactly as brilliant as about, oh 18 Rush albums I can think of. David Grohl is about as much a drum God to me as Kevin Federline is.
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Old 03-14-2009, 05:21 AM
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If I were to pick the single most outrageously overhyped and overpraised band/person it would be Nirvana and Kurt Cobain.

Nevermind was decent, but it doesn't overshadow much at all.

"With the lights out its less dangerous
Here we are now
Entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious
Here we are now
Entertain us
A mulatto
An albino
A mosquito
My libido"


Not deep, or prophetic.
Not exactly as brilliant as about, oh 18 Rush albums I can think of. David Grohl is about as much a drum God to me as Kevin Federline is.
That does it. I'm listening to all of Cygnus right NOW!
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:01 AM
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That does it. I'm listening to all of Cygnus right NOW!
Good choice! I am putting on "Caress of steel"
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Old 03-14-2009, 12:38 PM
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Though his mind is not for rent,
Dont put him down as arrogant.
His reserve, a quiet defense,
Riding out the days events.
The river

And what you say about his company
Is what you say about society.
Catch the mist, catch the myth
Catch the mystery, catch the drift

The world is, the world is,
Love and life are deep,
Maybe as his eyes are wide.

I'm sorry, what? :-P
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:22 PM
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Blunder, err blender voted Neil Peart "The all time worst lyracist in rock."

Not sure what drugs they are taking.

Here is a verse from a highly acclaimed band:
"Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah."

That masterpiece is U2/vertigo.
Zactly my point, trkdrmr! ;-)

Blunder wouldn't know good lyrics if they fell in their lap from a thousand feet.

Period.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:34 PM
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Though his mind is not for rent,
Dont put him down as arrogant.
His reserve, a quiet defense,
Riding out the days events.
The river

And what you say about his company
Is what you say about society.
Catch the mist, catch the myth
Catch the mystery, catch the drift

The world is, the world is,
Love and life are deep,
Maybe as his eyes are wide.

I'm sorry, what? :-P
Aww...

Come on, Guz! Don't knock what you can't understand, man.

Just cause NPs' lyrics seem to be "over the head" of some, like those idiots at Blunder", doesn't mean that they're bad lyrics.

I mean come on! :-| You have "The Trees", Closer to the Heart", "Xanadu", "Something for Nothing", "Cinderella Man", "Red Barchetta", "A Farewell to Kings", "Vital Signs", "Subdivisions", etc...

I could go on and on listing songs writin' by NP that have meaning, understanding, and terrific content.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:46 PM
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Aww...

Come on, Guz! Don't knock what you can't understand, man.

Just cause NPs' lyrics seem to be "over the head" of some, like those idiots at Blunder", doesn't mean that they're bad lyrics.

I mean come on! :-| You have "The Trees", Closer to the Heart", "Xanadu", "Something for Nothing", "Cinderella Man", "Red Barchetta", "A Farewell to Kings", "Vital Signs", "Subdivisions", etc...

I could go on and on listing songs writin' by NP that have meaning, understanding, and terrific content.
The keys to death and hell
The ailing kingdom doomed to fail
The bonds of sin and heart will break
The pilgrims course will take

Quelling the devils might
And ready for eternal fight
Aching limbs and fainting soul
Holy battles take their toll

Liberty and hope divine
Changing the water into wine
So to you we bid farewell
Kingdom of heaven to hell

Spirit holy life eternal
Raise me up take me home
Pilgrim sunrise pagan sunset
Onward journey begun

To courage find and gracious will
Deliver good from ill
Clean the water clean our guilt
With us do what you will

Then will my judge appear
Bear no false angel that I hear
For only then I will confess
To my eternal hell
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:23 PM
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The keys to death and hell
The ailing kingdom doomed to fail
The bonds of sin and heart will break
The pilgrims course will take

Quelling the devils might
And ready for eternal fight
Aching limbs and fainting soul
Holy battles take their toll

Liberty and hope divine
Changing the water into wine
So to you we bid farewell
Kingdom of heaven to hell

Spirit holy life eternal
Raise me up take me home
Pilgrim sunrise pagan sunset
Onward journey begun

To courage find and gracious will
Deliver good from ill
Clean the water clean our guilt
With us do what you will

Then will my judge appear
Bear no false angel that I hear
For only then I will confess
To my eternal hell
Well...

Guz...How do you REALLY feel? :-|


Wow! This certainly explains where YOUR mind is!


Anything positive to add? :-|


Or anything related to the thread? :-|


'Cuz this does have SOME meaning and understanding. But NO terrific content or relation to NP.


Though, you have successfully scared the daylights outta me! Gulp! :-(
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:35 PM
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sorry guys. I've had a bit of a crap day. :( I considered deleting that post but decided not to...Please don't hate me :-P

And just to clarify I like NP
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:38 PM
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sorry guys. I've had a bit of a crap day. :( I considered deleting that post but decided not to...Please don't hate me :-P

And just to clarify I like NP
No one should ever knock Maiden lyrics either. What other band could make epic music with "The rhyme of the ancient mariner" and high concepts like that.
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:45 PM
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Oops!


I honestly didn't realize they were Maiden lyrics. Doh! :-|


Didn't mean to come down on ya, if you felt that I did, Guz.


It's all good! ;-)
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:19 AM
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Glad that's sorted out! :-)

Anyone heard this? It really helped me appreciate NP's drumming a whole lot more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8ubtRAEB9Q
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:30 PM
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Glad that's sorted out! :-)

Anyone heard this? It really helped me appreciate NP's drumming a whole lot more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8ubtRAEB9Q
Very nice, That's the actual track.
Thanks for posting.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:22 PM
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Glad that's sorted out! :-)

Anyone heard this? It really helped me appreciate NP's drumming a whole lot more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8ubtRAEB9Q
Oh, cool.

I really like this YYZ drum track recording. How do they do this?

Excellent! Thanks Guz! ;-)
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Old 03-15-2009, 09:15 PM
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There are tonnes of these drum/vocal/bass tracks on Youtube! You just have to look
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:29 PM
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There are tonnes of these drum/vocal/bass tracks on Youtube! You just have to look
That one you posted has already been deleted :(
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:41 PM
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That one you posted has already been deleted :(
Has it? I can still watch it...That's weird
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:47 PM
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Has it? I can still watch it...That's weird
Maybe it was my browser... I got a message saying "deleted" It works now...
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:50 PM
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Maybe it was my browser... I got a message saying "deleted" It works now...
Ah, that happens with you too? Usually you just have to refresh the page
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I had no idea he filled with the timbale at 2:40. The wash from the cymbals sounds pretty cool too. How do they get rid of that in the final mix again? Some sort of filter or compressor?
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Old 03-16-2009, 01:25 AM
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I had no idea he filled with the timbale at 2:40. The wash from the cymbals sounds pretty cool too. How do they get rid of that in the final mix again? Some sort of filter or compressor?
There is software out there (and I can't for the life of me think of it) that extracts drum tracks.
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Old 03-16-2009, 01:36 AM
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What about before software like Moving Pictures or did they use computers for mixing (I honestly don't know, Rush was pretty ahead of their time)

By the way, how cool are the isolated guitar tracks? Gives your mind a new listening experience imagining the drum track. My favorites incidentally are Metallica's Master... and ...And Justice tracks. Geddy's YYZ is pretty awesome too. Fun to play "air guitar" and it almost sounds like Kirk Hammett is in my living room.
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Old 03-16-2009, 01:39 AM
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What about before software like Moving Pictures or did they use computers for mixing (I honestly don't know, Rush was pretty ahead of their time)

By the way, how cool are the isolated guitar tracks? Gives your mind a new listening experience imagining the drum track. My favorites incidentally are Metallica's Master... and ...And Justice tracks. Geddy's YYZ is pretty awesome too. Fun to play "air guitar" and it almost sounds like Kirk Hammett is in my living room.
For rush, zep and metallica it would be greatly beneficial to me to have isolated drum and guitar tracks so that I can better assimilate what's happening, and even record my own play-along. It would help me with the more involving drum parts.
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Old 03-16-2009, 06:47 PM
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There is software out there (and I can't for the life of me think of it) that extracts drum tracks.
It's a really high tech piece of equipment called Rock Band :-P

Here are some more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljjmyQRmi_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBExJ...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1sSw...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNM4lN8T1MA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Kpw...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geE37...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ6uB...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0059...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u260YBqIgEs
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:17 PM
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Great guys, but...


don't think this should be posted on the Neil Peart thread.


It's really not on topic. :-|


I'm just sayin'. ;-)
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:13 AM
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Hm, okay! Back to the lecture at hand.

It's great how a thread on Neil Peart can go off on such tangents! But really, we must digress.

Number 4 on the countdown towards Neil's best solo has been posted on TheParadiddler.com. Why don't we just settle down, pop a bruski (if you're old enough, and if that's how you spell bruski), and read about one of the most revered solos in Neil's list? Here's the link:

Neil Peart's Solos Ranked - Number 4

Let us all know what you think!
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:36 AM
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Hey Omar!


Just wanted to kindly disagree with your assessment of NP's Exit...Stage Left solo. I, for one, rank this one the best solos of his ever recorded. As a matter of fact, I rate it as ONE of the best progressive rock drum solos ever!

But you aren't gonna be surprised that I think that...I know. But that's how I feel about this solo of his. No way it's fourth. Absolutely not! Sorry, buddy. ;-)

But again, Thank You for posting these solo articles. It's nice to know that there IS another devoted, die-hard Professor fan out there that takes the time to post some very interesting reads...WITHOUT shooting the man down for this and that ridiculous reason.

Keep Up the good work! ;-)
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Hey Omar!


Just wanted to kindly disagree with your assessment of NP's Exit...Stage Left solo. I, for one, rank this one the best solos of his ever recorded. As a matter of fact, I rate it as ONE of the best progressive rock drum solos ever!

But you aren't gonna be surprised that I think that...I know. But that's how I feel about this solo of his. No way it's fourth. Absolutely not! Sorry, buddy. ;-)

But again, Thank You for posting these solo articles. It's nice to know that there IS another devoted, die-hard Professor fan out there that takes the time to post some very interesting reads...WITHOUT shooting the man down for this and that ridiculous reason.

Keep Up the good work! ;-)
Hi Michael.

You make some excellent points. I, like many, have an affinity to this solo, and I was in a quandary as to how I was going to rank this one. This solo definitely made a statement, and many became Rush fans during this time, so I fully expected a little (or a lot!) of disagreement on this one.

But I'll stick to my guns! I gotta compare each solo to each other, within the context of their time, and determine which solo fit the bill the most for the time period it appeared in, technical aspects, etc. Mind you, I'm having a blast doing this! What's not to like about being immersed in Neil Peart's solos?

Anyway, thanks very much for reading. I'm thinking of writing an epilogue-type article at the end, and maybe I'll explain in detail how I came up with this crazy concept. More to come, of course!
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Thanks...


Omar. You have definitely peeked my interest! ;-)
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Old 03-21-2009, 01:18 AM
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Anyone seen the movie "I love you man" yet ? I saw a bit while watching That Metal Show the other day that said Rush have a part in the movie. Not sure how big a part. Background band at a concert the characters go to, or actual parts in the film, like in The Trailer Park Boys.
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Anyone seen the movie "I love you man" yet ? I saw a bit while watching That Metal Show the other day that said Rush have a part in the movie. Not sure how big a part. Background band at a concert the characters go to, or actual parts in the film, like in The Trailer Park Boys.
Really? :-|

Hmm...May have to check that out, Pavlos.


Thanks. ;-)
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:56 PM
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Bad news/good news.

Blender magazine, who's opinions never seemed to align with mine is folding. It's kharma for insulting Peart's lyrical ability.

Bad news because it means loss of jobs. Good news, because they are no loss to me.
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Bad news/good news.

Blender magazine, who's opinions never seemed to align with mine is folding. It's kharma for insulting Peart's lyrical ability.

Bad news because it means loss of jobs. Good news, because they are no loss to me.
Hi trk.

Yes, Blender blundered big time by criticizing Neil's lyrical ability. That showed their ignorance (or the writer of that article, or the editor, or both). Too bad for the jobs, yes.

Just also wanted to mention that I'll be very shortly posting number three on the countdown towards Neil's best solo. Stay tuned!

And just to throw out there one of my favorite songs lyrically by Mr. Peart, it would have to be "The Camera Eye":

Pavements may teem
With intense energy,
But the city is calm
In this violent sea

...and I love how Geddy sings the last two lines--

I won't miss Blender.
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Hi trk.

Yes, Blender blundered big time by criticizing Neil's lyrical ability. That showed their ignorance (or the writer of that article, or the editor, or both). Too bad for the jobs, yes.

Just also wanted to mention that I'll be very shortly posting number three on the countdown towards Neil's best solo. Stay tuned!

And just to throw out there one of my favorite songs lyrically by Mr. Peart, it would have to be "The Camera Eye":

Pavements may teem
With intense energy,
But the city is calm
In this violent sea

...and I love how Geddy sings the last two lines--

I won't miss Blender.
I just got up after 12 hours in a sleep-debt coma. I cannot ATM recall the rush lyrics referring to (paraphrasing because I can't even get this part right):

"The weight of darkness pushing down on me"

Describing a motorcycle ride.
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