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Old 12-23-2008, 07:40 AM
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Default Hi-hat rod in the way...

So I've had a set of tymps on the left side of my kit (as an upper-range extension of the toms) for the last while, and I've been able to access them easily for the most part. But as I need to become more efficient with my space (everything is already fairly cramped in my setup) and I'm placing more stuff on the left side of my kit, I'm realizing that the rod from my hi-hat is coming in the way of my sticks when I play. My hats are fairly low in comparison to the kit, so there's a lot of rod exposed. Now my question is... is this something I should take a saw to? The hi-hat hardware is... relatively cheap Tama Imperialstar factory hardware, so I'm not too restrained when considering simply sawing off a good portion of the rod. Should I do this? Or is there a different way to solve it?

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Old 12-23-2008, 08:09 AM
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Can u take a picture so i can see exactly what you mean please?
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:30 AM
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That's exactly what I did. Worked out perfectly. File the cut end nice and round, use the end you cut off for an example.
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Default Re: Hi-hat rod in the way...



The hi-hat rod comes in the way of the splash and sometimes the high tymp. I usually just end up having to move the hi-hat constantly (as hardware tends to move a little at times), but its annoying and impractical during a performance, say.
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:31 AM
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That's exactly what I did. Worked out perfectly. File the cut end nice and round, use the end you cut off for an example.
Aha, alright.

Looks like I'll have to pay my garage a visit.

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Old 12-23-2008, 08:31 AM
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If you're certain you'll always have your hi hats at that height, I say just hack the rod off
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:43 AM
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Yea cuttin off the rod would be the easiest solution. the only thing i could suggest is moving the spash just next to or sorta above the tymp and move the hihats to the left about 2-3"? But its just a thought, it might get uncomfortable for you if you moved the hihats, so saw away :)
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I was pretty much just wanting to hear approval for sawing it... lol. Now I just wonder what with...
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:39 AM
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A hacksaw and a little elbow grease should do the trick...mark a line with a Sharpie where you plan on cutting...leave about 4" or so above where you place your clutch. Sand it off and you should be good to go.
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Old 12-24-2008, 12:38 AM
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A hacksaw and a little elbow grease should do the trick...mark a line with a Sharpie where you plan on cutting...leave about 4" or so above where you place your clutch. Sand it off and you should be good to go.
That's a good way to go about it. I would suggest putting the rod in a vise.

Hihat rods are usually way too long, long enough for a 7-foot person to play standing. I cut mine off to about a half-inch of their highest position, so it is not in the way at all.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:25 AM
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I used a dremmel.

Quick work and took the burrs off the edges.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:33 AM
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I used a dremmel.

Quick work and took the burrs off the edges.
this is exactly the tool that I was going to suggest, but then I have one and use the hell out of it, you can not only cut but shape the end as well.
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: Hi-hat rod in the way...

anyone have good before and after pics.
i have been wanting to do this for some time.
mine isnt in the way of anything. its just an eyesore...
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:34 PM
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I don't have a previous picture of it up close...but here is an After
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:03 PM
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I used a bench grinder. I was able to put a nice round end on it after cutting.
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Old 12-24-2008, 09:12 PM
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does it not mess up the chroming?
i dont want the chrome peeling off...
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Old 12-24-2008, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: Hi-hat rod in the way...

I have the same problem , .. I cant reach the left most rack tom.
seems I know what to do, thanks folks.
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:43 AM
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does it not mess up the chroming?
i dont want the chrome peeling off...
Of course it does...it exposes the raw material at the top of the rod...as you can see in his 'after' picture...you can see a little oxidation occuring at the top (the orange/red colouration) on the tip of the rod...it's nothing to worry about though.
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Old 12-25-2008, 03:18 AM
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Of course it does...it exposes the raw material at the top of the rod...as you can see in his 'after' picture...you can see a little oxidation occuring at the top (the orange/red colouration) on the tip of the rod...it's nothing to worry about though.
i have always been curious about chopping from the bottom and using a dye to put the threading back in.

has anyone done this?
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Old 12-25-2008, 07:56 PM
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i have always been curious about chopping from the bottom and using a dye to put the threading back in.

has anyone done this?
I have made my own pull rods out of 1/4-inch steel rod and threaded at the end. They're not chromed, but pull rods don't get noticed much. You can get a cheap tap-and-die kit from Slave Harbor tools (aka, Harbor Freight Tools) for $10 that will work fine for the soft metals used with drum sets.

I think you're right, though, that it would be better to cut from the bottom and preserve the OEM-finished tip. I like how you did that with the boom arm mod.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: Hi-hat rod in the way...

how 'bout taking a chunk out of the middle and then using a spot weld or some hardware coupler to attatch the top+ bottom? Aw screw it. Just cut the top off. The crome isn't going to be exposed anyway since it will be at the top of the clutch. You can just go buy a replacement rod anyway
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Old 12-28-2008, 12:24 AM
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i was thinking the same thing, but yea you're right its easier just to cut it off. But has no one thought this; one day you may need the top of the rod to mount oh say a cowbell or a tambourine or one of those little plastic blocks lol, and you might not have the money to buy a new rod, what ya gonna do then?
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Old 12-28-2008, 12:34 AM
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I used a copper tube cutter it was perfect for keeping the cut level and used a file to smooth it.
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Old 12-28-2008, 12:49 AM
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i was thinking the same thing, but yea you're right its easier just to cut it off. But has no one thought this; one day you may need the top of the rod to mount oh say a cowbell or a tambourine or one of those little plastic blocks lol, and you might not have the money to buy a new rod, what ya gonna do then?
For what it would cost to buy a new rod at a music store, you could get a cheap tap and die set and six feet of quarter-inch rod and cut several of your own to whatever sizes you need.
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i have always been curious about chopping from the bottom and using a dye to put the threading back in.

has anyone done this?

I create my own cymbal stackers..............I thread the ends of the rod.......which is shaped for the situation. I weld on washers below to stack the felts on............and use a coupler to attach the whole arm to the top of an existing cymbal. The thread is easy with a vise, a dye, and a cresent wrench.
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I create my own cymbal stackers..............I thread the ends of the rod.......which is shaped for the situation. I weld on washers below to stack the felts on............and use a coupler to attach the whole arm to the top of an existing cymbal. The thread is easy with a vise, a dye, and a cresent wrench.
Very cool. I'd dig checking out your work. There's a thread dedicated to hardware mods you might be interested in at http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=23501. I made a triple cymbal stacker there.
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Very cool. I'd dig checking out your work. There's a thread dedicated to hardware mods you might be interested in at http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=23501. I made a triple cymbal stacker there.
I will have to check out the thread you posted. My work is nothing fancy............just simplized versions of what's out there. Picture a rod with a metric universal threaded ends ...........a washer welded about 2 inches down from the top............and bends in the rod (which is anywhere from 3" to 14") which allows the top cymbal to have the best angle toward me. Instead of adjustable angles to adjust the cymbal (like found on market models)................I have to plan ahead and bend the rod in a fashion which will allow the cymbal to face me properly. My digital camera is down (dropped it while fishing).............when I get a new one I'll post pics of my "work". =)
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