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Old 11-21-2008, 11:47 PM
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Default Mike Portney/Dream Theater songs?

Does anybody have any recommendations of Dream Theater Songs?
I haven't heard any of there music at all.
I was planning on searching some of it, but I thought I would get some recommendations first.
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:08 AM
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do yourself a favor and get their Live at Budokan DVD. That's a great place to start.
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:11 AM
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do yourself a favor and get their Live at Budokan DVD. That's a great place to start.
Before I go out to buy their dvd, I would prefer to actually get a chance to hear them.
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It's not Dream Theater, but it is Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci sounding like another fantastic DT song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgP1bjCfCNI

This is from their latest album, Systematic Chaos.

Turn it up.
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Old 11-22-2008, 02:35 AM
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That's funny, I've met Mike twice, and both times he was very pleasant.
Lucky dude. Mike is usually touring and I am usually deployed just long enough to miss any shows near me. I swear I nealy booked a flight to Puerto Rico to see a clinic and Germany to see DT.

Mike's autographed picture hangs in my drumroom. I greatly enjoy all of his work and side projects-which I have on my creative zen. The only thing that bums me out is that I hosed the encoding for score and live at budokan. I had to delete those files because the sound was so out of synch. (over compression)

I have all of Mikes cd's and dvd's as well. Right now, I am watching "Amazing Journey" with his take on Keith Moon.

I am envious of his amazing drum kit collection, tama seems to have made him a copy of every iconic kit known since Ringos.

BTW: I hope his new kit is bubinga...!
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:41 PM
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That's funny, I've met Mike twice, and both times he was very pleasant.
Very lucky.
I watched their live video of "As I Am" last night, very catchy song.
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:51 PM
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I have to say that I believe the singer isn't that great.
He doesn't really seem to fit in.
But Mike and John are amazing.
(the bass and key-board players are cool too.)
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Scenes from a Memory. In my opinion, their best album that I've heard.
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I have to say that I believe the singer isn't that great.
He doesn't really seem to fit in.
Can't agree nor can I even assimilate that statement.

What or who should the singer sound like to fit in?
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youtube, Its free;-)
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Old 11-23-2008, 03:55 PM
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Can't agree nor can I even assimilate that statement.

What or who should the singer sound like to fit in?
Better than he does now.
And He doesn't look like he fits in.
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I disagree, James is the voice of DT.

Just because the current trend is low and growling.

realize how long this band has been in existence.. Think about the vocalists that were happening then, Dio, Dickinson,Halford, etc..

James has an amazing range and voice. I realize he may not be your cup of tea but I am going to go out on a limb ans guess that the rest of the band like him.

I will also say this for him. I got a small glimpse into who he is as a person a few years ago.

I was early to a DT show in San Diego, I was walking past the load in door and there was this roadie trying to lift a case of this 6" dia power cable. Up walks James, he grabs the other side and lifts it with him. I thought how cool is that, he is the lead singer of a national act with a cult following and he helps the roadies. I gained a whole new respect for him that day.

When I saw him back stage I talked to him about it. He told me he was a roadie himself and has great respect for the job.
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Listen to "Another Day" and tell me that James isn't one of the most amazing vocalists you've ever heard.
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MP and the rest of the DT guys are classy. I met them in Atlanta a few years ago. Mike and I chatted about metal music mostly and a few things about drums here and there in the brief time.
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I disagree, James is the voice of DT.

Just because the current trend is low and growling.

realize how long this band has been in existence.. Think about the vocalists that were happening then, Dio, Dickinson,Halford, etc..

James has an amazing range and voice. I realize he may not be your cup of tea but I am going to go out on a limb ans guess that the rest of the band like him.

I will also say this for him. I got a small glimpse into who he is as a person a few years ago.

I was early to a DT show in San Diego, I was walking past the load in door and there was this roadie trying to lift a case of this 6" dia power cable. Up walks James, he grabs the other side and lifts it with him. I thought how cool is that, he is the lead singer of a national act with a cult following and he helps the roadies. I gained a whole new respect for him that day.

When I saw him back stage I talked to him about it. He told me he was a roadie himself and has great respect for the job.

I bet he is a respectful person, im just saying that I don't like his voice on the "Live in Budokan" videos.
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Better than he does now.
And He doesn't look like he fits in.
Makes no sense. It's not only subjective, but DT is obviously not your music. He sings and looks like he fits in. He doesn't need to sound or look like like a death metaller. DT are consummate musicians with prodigious talent. They carefully chose members that fit thier image, philosophy, sound and abilities.

As was suggested, to replace him with one of the latest growl-and-puke types would serve no good purpose.

They know what they are doing, and maybe that's why they have been around over 20 years and continue to grow in success and popularity.

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In my personal opinion there's two major songs that "sum up" Dream Theater or better, Mikes playing:
-Metropolis pt1 (album: Images and Words)
-Raise the knife (album: Score)

One of my DT favs is "Lines in the Sand" (album: falling into infinity)
That song has both technical and musical playing, must hear.

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Old 11-24-2008, 01:58 AM
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I do like his drum solo work, Mike Portnoy and Charlie Benante (Anthrax) duet.

Check this: http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/m...oybenante.html

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I like older DT the best. . .my favorite tune of theirs is the instrumental "Erotomania" from the album Awake Some good double bass drum work on that one.
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Makes no sense. It's not only subjective, but DT is obviously not your music. He sings and looks like he fits in. He doesn't need to sound or look like like a death metaller. DT are consummate musicians with prodigious talent. They carefully chose members that fit thier image, philosophy, sound and abilities.

As was suggested, to replace him with one of the latest growl-and-puke types would serve no good purpose.

They know what they are doing, and maybe that's why they have been around over 20 years and continue to grow in success and popularity.
1.)I hate death metal
2.)i don't like growl-puke types
3.) i like the music, not the vocals
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3.) i like the music, not the vocals
I have read the same reason the people don't like Rush. They can't get past Geddy Lee's vocals. Fair enough.

Ok, if you were a talent agent, assigned to replace the current vocalist of DT, who would you pick, and why?

...and I promise that my question is not a set-up for an argument. People have told me that the lead singer of queensryche could/should replace Geddy Lee because of his vocal range. I can accept that.

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I have read the same reason the people don't like Rush. They can't get past Geddy Lee's vocals. Fair enough.

I agree, I ve heard the same, and its like arguing with a brook-pebble...

Ok, if you were a talent agent, assigned to replace the current vocalist of DT, who would you pick, and why?

This would be an interesting thread, man. I d recommend Steven Wison, Maynard, Sammy Hagar minus the guy that supplies the voice....
Otherwise, You have to check out Office of Strategic Influence( O.S.I.) and Liquid Tension Experiment. Like Dream Theater without the stigma of Dream Theater....wait, did that make any sense? Check em out eitherway!
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Otherwise, You have to check out Office of Strategic Influence( O.S.I.) and Liquid Tension Experiment. Like Dream Theater without the stigma of Dream Theater....wait, did that make any sense? Check em out eitherway!
I love Mike's side projects. I have them in mp3 format with me. Neil Morse as well.
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I have read the same reason the people don't like Rush. They can't get past Geddy Lee's vocals. Fair enough.

Ok, if you were a talent agent, assigned to replace the current vocalist of DT, who would you pick, and why?

...and I promise that my question is not a set-up for an argument. People have told me that the lead singer of queensryche could/should replace Geddy Lee because of his vocal range. I can accept that.
I honestly can't say.
Maybe someone who has a bit of a deeper voice.

It's weird, because I think that Portney and Petrucci have better voices than he does.
Well, at least in As I Am.
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I honestly can't say.
Maybe someone who has a bit of a deeper voice.

It's weird, because I think that Portney and Petrucci have better voices than he does.
Well, at least in As I Am.
I can say this: Mike has stated he wanted to do music without keyboards for a while. I know he really digs "Train of thought" for it's hard hitting and dark sound. I am reading into that also that he might prefer vocals the same way.

I don't know if it was Rush, YES or ELP who started it, but it seems one of the staples of progressive rock is to have a high-pitched vocalist.

I always wondered what "tom sawyer" would sound like if Marylin Manson had sung it.
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I can say this: Mike has stated he wanted to do music without keyboards for a while. I know he really digs "Train of thought" for it's hard hitting and dark sound. I am reading into that also that he might prefer vocals the same way.

I don't know if it was Rush, YES or ELP who started it, but it seems one of the staples of progressive rock is to have a high-pitched vocalist.

I always wondered what "tom sawyer" would sound like if Marylin Manson had sung it.
I recently discovered that the singers voice is terrible live, but not that bad recorded.
I like dream theater now!
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I recently discovered that the singers voice is terrible live, but not that bad recorded.
I like dream theater now!
Some bands have it rought duplicating the studio sound live. I love "live at Budokan" and "Score."

FWIW: I read that people did not like the sound of Mike's mirage monster kit live. For his next project, I am hoping Tama makes him a bubinga monster.
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Some bands have it rought duplicating the studio sound live. I love "live at Budokan" and "Score."

FWIW: I read that people did not like the sound of Mike's mirage monster kit live. For his next project, I am hoping Tama makes him a bubinga monster.
I agree. Portney would rock a tama.
Portney is already one of my favorite drummers.
I watched a ton of his drum solo's on youtube.
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