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Old 11-19-2008, 10:04 PM
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Default Defining moments in music

What do you think are the most difining moments in music? Could be from any genre, or anything like that.


Mine would be:

Los Angeles, 1981. A man called James H. read the newspaper.

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Meaning a young James Hetfield was reading the newspaper and say "Drummer willing to do anything to be in a band".
And that drummer, was Mr. Lars Ulrich.



Also

When Geezer Butler saw the hooded ghostley figure at the end of his bed on that faithful Sunday evening.

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Thats how they got the name "Black Sabbath"
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:25 PM
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When gregorian chant was invented in the Middle Ages. Basically set the precedent of all music to follow. Or how about when religion was invented, cause thats what spurred the beginning of music.
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The invention of the electric guitar.
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:13 AM
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The first time humans discovered they could sing and actually sang, perhaps before they started to speak...Another defining moment is when the first musical instrument was devised.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:34 AM
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Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:57 AM
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Hmmm....

How about 1300 ish. The "Tabor" was invented with a single snare strand. Sick back beats soon followed...lol
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:07 AM
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The first time humans discovered they could sing and actually sang, perhaps before they started to speak...Another defining moment is when the first musical instrument was devised.
...which was...the drum. ; )
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:27 AM
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When Gene Krupa helped create a 20" floor tom and helped bring drumming into the forefront.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:36 AM
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The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:37 AM
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The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show.
Great music but I have a difficult time understanding their lyrics.

Oh....who am I kidding I went deaf years ago.....lol
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Keith Moon Passing out onto his snare, during Won't Get Fooled Again.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:19 AM
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When John Bonham did the bass drum triplets in good times bad times.

When Neil Peart did that Last 2 bar Fill in YYZ during the drum/bass trade off solos.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:23 AM
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When DW made the Double Bass Pedals =)...Hi everybody im new here
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:50 AM
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Keith Moon Passing out onto his snare, during Won't Get Fooled Again.

Absolutely i wonder what kind of drug did he take
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:02 AM
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Absolutely i wonder what kind of drug did he take
Moon was an alcoholic. Likely, he blacked out. When he died, he was taking medication that was supposed to help with his alcoholism.
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:04 AM
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The invention of the electric guitar.

Very insightful, sir.
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:36 AM
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I'd say when Charlie Parker figured out how to reharmonize "Cherokee." Pretty defining, that.
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:51 AM
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When the word "music" was added to the dictionary.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:17 AM
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F. M. Radio
The British Invasion
Midnight Special
Don Kirshners Rock Concerts
California Jam - when Ritchie Blackmore smashed the Camera with his Strat!
Woodstock
Beatles at Shea Stadium
and there's more....
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:18 AM
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When a young Kenny G first picked up the saxaphone... the rest, as they say, is history.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:48 AM
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Beethoven wirting the Ninth Symphony while deaf

Slaves are allowed to play music in Congo Square, New Orleans

The emergence of Louis Armstrong, America's most important singular musician

The Benny Goodman Orchestra (with Krupa) plays the Palomar Ballroom

Charlie Parker and Dizzy create bebop

Elvis goes on Ed Sullivan

The Beatles on Ed Sullivan

MTV (I mention this as defining, not good)

The ability to share music via downloading
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:55 AM
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MTV (I mention this as defining, not good)
Yeah, MTV nosedived around 1989 when they started veering away from a music video only format. Maybe it was a little before that, but I used to like it when it actually showed rock and top 40 videos. MTV's original concept did redefine the music scene, but alas, fell to corporate mentality and slid into the abyss of reality shows and rappers.
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:39 AM
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Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.
Very true. One person, one simple discovery that led to Western melodic organization. He found that if you cut the vibrating length of string in half, the sound waves doubled in frequency, the basis for the octave. Not a huge mystery and someone was bound to have discovered it eventually (maybe Eastern musicians did and thought little of it) but that was clearly a defining moment.
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:44 AM
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African slaves adapting their music in the New World

The Spanish and Portuguese generally let their slaves make and play indigenous instruments, unlike the more uptight English and American slave traders and owners. Jazz probably never have evolved if American slaves would have been allowed to keep their native instruments - the influence of the original African music would have been too strong to permit something as radically different as jazz to evolve, so I think.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:16 AM
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when humans created a thing called "blues"
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:51 AM
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When the first caveman banged two rocks together and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.

When the Indians divided the string, millennia before Pythagoras; right Abe?

When Shakespeare wrote A Midsummer Night's Dream. (and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.)

When a hedge trimming accident produced the first male castrato.

When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.

Two words: Free jazz.
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:10 AM
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when humans created a thing called "blues"
The use of the flattened 5th..

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When the first caveman banged two rocks together and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.
Thank you for not saying cavemen "picked up the rocks & banged the chicks", Kenny, that would have been rude.

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When the Indians divided the string, millennia before Pythagoras; right Abe?
I didn't know that.. Geometry, Math.. I thought that was the Greeks & the Arabs..respectively..?


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1993 when I first picked up a violin.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:25 AM
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.... When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.

Two words: Free jazz.
Bach and the Golden Number ...
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Let me see if I can add a few.

1. Sing sing sing- Gene Krupa
2. West side story suite- Buddy Rich
3. When the leavee breaks/Moby Dick- John Bonham
4. Purdie shuffle- Bernard Purdie
5. 50 ways to leave your lover- Steve Gadd
6. Don't stop Believeing drum track- Steve Smith
7. Brother to brother-Mark Craney
8. Moving Pictures- Neil Peart
9. Hot for teacher- Alex Van Halen
10.The police- Stewart Copeland
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:35 AM
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Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.
Agreed, I'd say this is probably the biggest one if we consider the last few thousand years... For european/western culture at least.

Before that, the invention of drums, the beginning of organization/categorization.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:53 PM
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-> Ray Manzarek - The Doors, who wrote and played the basslines on a keyboard bass, keeping it melodic and precise.

-> Rock N' Roll a mixture of Blues + Boogie Woogie with tempo.

-> Myself, for the first time playing the drums:
It's a long way to the top (if you wanna rock n' roll) and Live Wire...AC/DC - High Voltage.

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I didn't know that.. Geometry, Math.. I thought that was the Greeks & the Arabs..respectively..?


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The Vedic tribes were dabbling in this type of geometric cosmogony hundreds of years before that. My Indian philosophy teacher in college argued that the Greeks got their diatonic scale from the Indians, and that the imperfection of musical mathematics resulted in the necessity for the creation of the gods. If music, or anything were perfect, there would be no need for a god.

There was a lot written back in the 70's about the Vedic tribes, and some authors even argued that they made their way even to Ireland. So in that sense, the roots of western culture are Indian, not Greek. That's why our languages have Sanskrit roots.
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When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.
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Right On I.C.....................
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When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.
could you explain? I'm really curious how harmony is math.
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:11 AM
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When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.
Good on you, mate.
I miss those 4-5 member bands that really made music, long time ago...Now is just show business and commercial propaganda.
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-> Ray Manzarek - The Doors, who wrote and played the basslines on a keyboard bass, keeping it melodic and precise.

-> Rock N' Roll a mixture of Blues + Boogie Woogie with tempo.

-> Myself, for the first time playing the drums:
It's a long way to the top (if you wanna rock n' roll) and Live Wire...AC/DC - High Voltage.

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right on mate that Vox Continental he played sounded amazing
Actually it was a Fender "Key-Bass."
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:16 PM
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When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.
People developed instrumental music in conjunction with singing, dancing, worship, celebration, festivals, parades, feasts competitions etc. For music to exist separately from those things is unheard of in some socieities. In some countries, like India, popular music doesn't really exist separately from movies (maybe that's changed some).

This whole Western norm of "you're the audience so you sit there and stare and us while we play music" is not too common, I think. Good thing or not, people often see music as part of something larger, including a video, dance, song, etc.
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