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Old 05-18-2008, 01:08 AM
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Hey, Joe (great name for a song : )

Man, thanks very much, and I am so glad you dig "H,G&F". It's for guys like you that I created this package, to open new doors, and show some new ways of phrasing grooves, creating fills, and developing hand coordination

As for the heads, they are Remo Clear Emperors on top and Clear Dips on the bottom.
I usually use Pinstripes or Emperors.

Stay encouraged! Also, please vote for "Hands, Grooves, & Fills" in the Modern Drummer Readers Poll under Method Book!

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Haha thanks! I get "Hey Joe! Where you goin' with that gun in yo' hand?" [Jimi Hendrix] more than you'd think! I just wanted to ask another question: Many drummers think the Powersonic is waaaaaaaaaaay too dead. Seeing that it is your bass batter head of choice, what would you say to these people?
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:27 AM
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Thanks Trip! I'll certainly give it a try
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:16 PM
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Hi Pat!! It's so great to be able to talk to you! I have been using your book and DVD for the past 4 months or so.. and it has helped me improve my drumming more than anything else :) If I had the chance I would go to one of your clinics, but I live in New Zealand -When are you coming here?!!

Anyway, a question about double strokes: you mention in the book that you don't 'pull' the second stroke, but the way my teacher has taught me is to use a 'push-pull' technique i.e. using the fingers to pull the stick towards the palm to create the second stroke. However I find that this way of doing doubles really strains the tendons on the back of my hand. So could you please explain to me in more detail how to do a proper double stroke roll? Thanks.

Btw I have never seen a drummer who can groove like you do on the DVD.. the musical performances are awesome! You're the best :)

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Thanks so much for the kind words, and glad you dig "H,G, & F".

I regards to rolls, I do NOT "pull" the second not, as I feel it makes the roll sound forced and uneven...I've never tried or have been taught to do that, ever..SO, as I mention in the DVD, you should aim for creating to open & even bounces by RELAXING the back fingers, not PULLING them. Using the forearm. push the stick down and let it bounce, allowing the second note to bounce up evenly. It's important you do not hit the first stroke too hard, because thats when the roll will sound "top heavy", like an accented first note. Try to achieve even bounces practicing the roll exercise in the Book.

That being said, it's not important that each not be "exactly the same" when executing a roll. Thats really over rated. The roll should flow and have a lightness to it, and the second note will always be a little under the first, thats just natural. Aim for equality without forcing the notes in...bounce them..Hope that helps!

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Old 06-14-2008, 02:57 PM
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Hey, guys

Some new video from my recent clinic tour in the UK at The Institute of Contemporary Music Performance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcZ-1RU3dI

This school is excellent, and I highly recommend it..
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:59 AM
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I absolutley digg that video! And your new kit looks awesome! Some REALLY GREAT playing too!
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Old 06-18-2008, 02:58 AM
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Thanks very much! Those aren't my drums, however. Those belong to the Institute..

Glad you dig it so much.

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Old 06-18-2008, 05:13 AM
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:25 PM
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It takes one to know one :)

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Old 06-21-2008, 02:47 PM
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Some new video from my recent clinic tour in the UK at The Institute of Contemporary Music Performance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcZ-1RU3dI

This school is excellent, and I highly recommend it..



Great stuff! I love the groove on the track you play along to. It has a feel I'm particularly fond of but have always found difficult to pin down. I can remember trying to get the groove right on The Bands "Rag Mamma Rag" with a covers band I played in many moons ago and just couldn't get my head round that "sort of" half time feel and the impression that some of the musicians are playing, straight some of the time, whilst others are swinging it, some of the time, in no particular order. Little Feet are another band who pull it off with ease and many of the early rock n roll songs also had a similar straight/swung feel . Wonderful stuff.
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:05 AM
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Pywacket..

Thanks, man, it's a groove I love laying down, and it's really a feeling of "in the gaps" that can be achieved by taking the swing, and "opening up" the beats, so they have a little more space..I liketo call it a "lilt"..

I grew up listening to lots of those records, Earl Palmer with Little Richard, Professor Longhair, etc..and even today I love Zydeco and things of that nature.

The track I am playing to is James Booker, piano only, no rhythm section..and you can really here the feel in the piano, so I just lock to that, and have a good time :)

Be on the lookout for the CD in the Fall! LOTS of grooves, like this one!

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Old 06-24-2008, 02:11 AM
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What a great description of an inspiring feel. "Lilt" Says it all! I defy anyone not to foot tap to it.

I remember playing the classic Johnny B Good in a rock n roll outfit and recieving compliments from some real Berry fans for following the bass with four on the floor with a swing hat across the guitarists straight racka racka. Felt ah.......authentic. Yep that would describe it and what a buzz to play.

I'll definately keep an eye out for that cd!

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Old 06-30-2008, 02:46 AM
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Pat, I love all of the fantastic clips at your DrummerWorld page:

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Pat_Petrillo.html

Awesome playing... amazing, blazing chops, WITH killer groove!

One thing on your instructional videos that particularly helped me personally was where you discussed that we should use our arms / wrists / fingers ALL TOGETHER. And that there is very little muscle in our wrists... it's mostly tendons and bone in our wrists. That helped me make a clearer mental picture about what's going on bio-mechanically, and helped me with playing more smoothly.

Just wanted to say thanks! :)
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:25 AM
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Wow, thanks so much, man, it means alot, and I'm SO glad it's helped you. I think the flow of the mechanics is really a natural thing, and not too complicated, but with all the talk about "Moeller this" and Moeller that", drummers forget that Moeller was a MAN, not a TECHNIQUE, and he was just telling people to play relaxed and use natural rebound..

Another analogy I use is...You can't really tell somebody how to walk..Meaning.."OK, turn your ankle now, then, roll your foot, now, bend your knees"...It happens naturally because of physics and gravity, and the way things are connected...!

Also, the groove stuff has been my thing since I was a kid, and I just always listened to records, and played from my heart. Can't really describe it, but again, it comes out because of the music I listened to.

Thank you for your kind words
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:35 PM
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Hey, Everyone

Just a heads up, for those of you interested in my P4 Signature Practice Pad, you can now order it thru Cascio Interstate Music ! It's the world's First Multi - Level Practice Pad.

Here's the link:

http://www.interstatemusic.com/webap...8086&langId=-1

Each surface has a different rubber for unique feels and sounds. The levels help develop hand independence and creativity. It measures 11X11, it fits in a standard snare basket, and it's Made in USA.

The bottom level is a specially designed rubber that feels very natural, not too bouncy. The middle level has a harder neoprene rubber, plus a softer, grey rubber for less bounce, similar to a floor tom. The top level has a hard red rubber, similar to the feel of a ride cymbal. The base is a light weight mdf material, which is lighter than the HQ or Vic pads. It has a real "old school" look, with a modern twist.

Work your ride, high hat, or cascara pattern on the top pad, and use the lower levels to practice various snare and tom orchestrations. Or for an extra workout, use the soft pad for less rebound. Playing singles from the top level to the bottom level is real workout.

It's versatile, practical, and makes practice FUN ! You'll dig the different sounds each pad produces, and it's like playing a mini drum set.

Thanks very much for your interest. Shipping is worldwide.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:11 PM
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8:10 am EAST COAST....the link is not working.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:35 PM
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Thanks, my man! Link works now!

http://www.interstatemusic.com/webap...8086&langId=-1
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Old 07-21-2008, 04:42 AM
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Hudson Music "Woodshed" clips from "Hands, Grooves, & Fills"!

Check it out...then....REALLY check it out ;)

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Old 07-21-2008, 06:35 AM
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Just stopping by to let u know Mr. Petrillo that your DVD looks fantastic and i am picking it up as soon as i can get my mom to allow me to work up some extra allowance...the reviews ive heard are fantastic and i cant wait to start working with it once i get my hands on a copy....u are a great drummer and a great teacher...keep it up
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:37 PM
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Hey, Tyler

That's cool, and thanks for the kind words my man! I think you will enjoy it and it will take your grooves to a new level, and give you some creative fill ideas. Also, you will really start to put some rudiment combinations together with some fun phrasing using the Rudiment TAB system.

Let me know how it turns out!

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Old 08-10-2008, 06:06 PM
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I hope Pat posts pictures of his new Ludwig kit soon! Such a nice finish and the hardware is great too. The sound..... is the best part. That classic Ludwig sound! When Pat first brought them to his lesson space, he was tuning the 14" floor tom... and he hit that perfect tuning spot.. That thing can blow doors off their hinges!!! HAHAH, right Pat? I loved it.

Since Pat has two kits in his lessons space now, he gets to play along with his students when he teaches. It's such a great experience and I'm very happy to play along with Pat! Who gets the chance to do that every week???!!!

Shamless plug for Pat's upcoming DVD, Learn to Read Rhythms... it's gonna be great!


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Old 08-13-2008, 06:21 AM
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Yo, "Trip"! ;)

Yes, the Ludwigs are in, and I will get the pics up soon..They are sounding really sweet, and focused..

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Old 08-14-2008, 09:20 PM
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Hey Pat! Just curious if you're still doing lessons in Jersey? I really feel it's time for lessons (after procrastinating for 4 years!) and I wasn't sure where to look until I saw that you do them. I'm going to get your DVD & practice pad in the mean time, but would really love to get a few lessons directly from the master! Talk to you soon!
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:08 PM
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Hey, man, thanks for asking, and I do teach in New Jersey, although the time slots are very limited due to my travels and commitment to Drummers Collective, but since you are a drummerworld poster, we can make it work ;)

PM me here, and I will hit you back with the information.

If anyone else who is around New Jersey and can't commute easily to New York City, PM me, and I will see what we can do to meet up.

All the Best, and talk to you soon
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H, G & F is awesome...I am starting to learn and grow as a noob drummer and love what I am getting from you DVD, thank you so much for being such an accessible PRO very unique in my opion to say the least!
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Old 09-06-2008, 03:02 PM
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Hey, my man!

Thanks so very much, and I am glad it is helping you...I think the play alongs will help with your timing, even if you can't play the EXACT groove I wrote..you can simply play your own groove, locking in with the band..and that's the goal!

The Rudiment TAB System will help you memorize the rudiments quickly ..SO, do the diddles first (P, DP, PDD), starting with the combos and the "Diddle Riddle" Solo.

Glad you dig it, and have fun

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Old 09-24-2008, 05:22 AM
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Hey, Guys

Groovallegiance makes it's debut in NYC at The Collective, Thursday,October 16th. Come out if you can!
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Old 10-29-2008, 05:14 AM
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I recently was working on the Swingalations section in the Book, and they are super hip. Your performance on the DVD is great, and I was wondering how is the best way to get the fill ins that you do in between grooves on the "Swingin Play Along" track, and there are also some you play on the DVD that are NOT in the Book! (darn it !) Can you some day show those on line or something??

Great work, really diggin it.
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Old 11-01-2008, 03:48 PM
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Thanks very much for the kind words, and glad you dig the "swingalations" grooves. The first 2 are ones I use quite a bit, and the other ones with sextuplet ghost notes are pretty difficult to keep low and soft inside the groove.

As for the fills, some of them are in the "Fills" section of the book, and you can take anyone of them to use before going into the bridge of the song, and on the way back to the A section..

There are some other "fill variation" things I do that are NOT in the book, this is true! I couldn't really right ALL of them out, I will be putting some of these in my ON LINE LESSONS which will be coming in 2009..I am setting up my studio as we speak, and I will be offering monthly lessons for a small fee..

Thanks for your input.

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Old 11-17-2008, 03:13 PM
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Hey Pat!

How's the recent DVD shoot coming? Any juicy tidbits of info you can share with us on what the content will be about?


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Well, I just shot some footage for the NEW Ludwig 100th Anniversary DVD which will be coming out in'09. I was honored to be asked to be a part of this great project, and I'm sure it will be a landmark production, with input from many Ludwig artists, including Ringo, Jason Bonham, and more. I did an interview segment, and a little solo thing with my new drums..! I did it in the same studio as I did the "Hands, Grooves, & Fills" DVD.

Also, the "Learn to Read Rhythms" DVD is still in edit mode, so, I am trying hard to get it out as soon as possible...

Groovallegiance Multi Media mp3 CD is in Mix mode, with a January release, and a new label has come into the picture...so I am looking forward to see where it lands! Along with the songs, there will be play alongs, pdf charts, and behind the scenes video clips/interviews.

Will keep everyone posted!
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Sounds good Pat, by the way I love the play alongs.
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Hey man.

Someone brought this up in another thread, what do you think of using devices like the Beatnik Rhythm Analyzer to tighten up the hands?

Obviously you'd support your own practice pad, but have you got any experience with this sort of thing?

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Hi Pat!
I just wanna say that I am a new fan of your mastery of the groove! I caught a couple of your drummerworld clips on YouTube and was knocked off my throne! I am an older guy (I guess) 46.. is it too late to teach this old dog any new tricks?? Are there any dvds or books you recommend that will help me develop my left (read: less dominant side) and single bass technique. I am 100% self taught and have been playing about 30 years. My meter is good, my groove is good as well. My goal is to be able to set my kit up left handed and play it like I would a right handed (normal for me) set up, as well as adding more fluidity and speed around the kit. I don't consider myself a bad drummer. I just think that I have placed limits on my playing through YEARS of incorrect technique.. any thoughts? Thanks, James Milwaukee WI.
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Right on, my man..glad you dig it! You can learn the grooves I wrote for each track, then create your own thru that..Keep me posted on how you do!
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Well, I just shot some footage for the NEW Ludwig 100th Anniversary DVD which will be coming out in'09. I was honored to be asked to be a part of this great project, and I'm sure it will be a landmark production, with input from many Ludwig artists, including Ringo, Jason Bonham, and more. I did an interview segment, and a little solo thing with my new drums..! I did it in the same studio as I did the "Hands, Grooves, & Fills" DVD.

Also, the "Learn to Read Rhythms" DVD is still in edit mode, so, I am trying hard to get it out as soon as possible...

Groovallegiance Multi Media mp3 CD is in Mix mode, with a January release, and a new label has come into the picture...so I am looking forward to see where it lands! Along with the songs, there will be play alongs, pdf charts, and behind the scenes video clips/interviews.

Will keep everyone posted!

WHEWWW!! Count me in for that multimedia mp3 CD as well as the Ludwig video.. That's great Pat.

Also, your P4 Practice Pad is gaining the advertising momentum!!! I just picked up DRUM! and Modern Drummer for this month, and your pad is highlighted in both magazines! Way to go!


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I just wanna say that I am a new fan of your mastery of the groove! I caught a couple of your drummerworld clips on YouTube and was knocked off my throne! I am an older guy (I guess) 46.. is it too late to teach this old dog any new tricks?? Are there any dvds or books you recommend that will help me develop my left (read: less dominant side) and single bass technique. I am 100% self taught and have been playing about 30 years. My meter is good, my groove is good as well. My goal is to be able to set my kit up left handed and play it like I would a right handed (normal for me) set up, as well as adding more fluidity and speed around the kit. I don't consider myself a bad drummer. I just think that I have placed limits on my playing through YEARS of incorrect technique.. any thoughts? Thanks, James Milwaukee WI.
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Cool handle!! Anyway, it's NEVER to late, and I think if you get my "Hands, Grooves, & Fills" DVD/Book, you will benefit from the groove ideas, play alongs. Developing the weak hand is about working both hands alternating different exercises, and that's what I cover in the Hands section. They are short and sweet and to the point, easy to learn. Here's a sample

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLjeECMlJQk

These will help speed and fluidity around the kit as well, plus there are alot of rhythmic fills ideas for you as well.

Thanks for the kind words, and let me know how you progress.
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Someone brought this up in another thread, what do you think of using devices like the Beatnik Rhythm Analyzer to tighten up the hands?

Obviously you'd support your own practice pad, but have you got any experience with this sort of thing?

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Beatnik-Rhyt...28127001r24231
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I'm not really familiar with it, but, it looks complicated, and I don't really think it's necessary to have a computer "analyze" your time or "beats", as you have to develop the skill to be able to practice with a metronome and HEAR how you fit with the tempo...This is MUCH more valuable, and unfortunately, a forgotten skill these days.. To me, you have to hear yourself lock to a good metronome when practicing hands or grooves. HEAR IT, that's my advice.

Yes, my P4 Pad is very different, unique, and will give you a multi faceted hand workout..

Hope to see you at the AUDW Fest this year!
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Hey Pat,

Enjoying HGF very much. The one warm up / exercise in the book that's killing me is the inverted diddles, the RllRLrrL and then going to the paradiddle etc. Wow. Must come to some easy but for me to do it right I really needed to take that one slow. Having a ball with it though.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you.

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2B

Thanks, and the diddle "inversiations" as I call them are really useful for connecting phrases together, so, take it slow, and once you get it under your hands, you'll use it everywhere!

Good Luck and have fun!
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Hi, Everyone

I've moved into a new studio here in New Brunswick, New Jersey, and I am accepting a limited number of weekly students. It's set up with my Ludwig kits, P.A, etc.

If you are interested in studying, feel free to PM me anytime

OK...See you soon!
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