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Old 07-31-2008, 12:29 AM
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Default Remo Pinstripe!

Im re-skinning my Mapex VX Voyager.

would remo pinstripes and an ambassador coated go well with these drums?

Is it also worth buying an evans torque key?

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Old 07-31-2008, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Remo Pinstripe!

If I had your kit, I would go with coated Emperors on top and either a clear or coated Ambassador on bottom.

The torque key can save you lots of time, great investment, but don't go thinking that it's an auto-tuner, because tuning is not based on tension alone.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Remo Pinstripe!

Personally, I like pinstripes and clear Ambassadors on just about anything. They always sound good!
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: Remo Pinstripe!

I have used coated and clear Emperors and Pinstripes. Also Evans coated and clear G2's. Coated Emperors are the way to go in my opinion.
I have the Torque key also. If your lugs are dirty at all and all lugs are not evenly smooth, the key will not be accurate.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Remo Pinstripe!

Pinstripes are quite dead sounding. If you like that sound get some more. If you'd like to hear a little more tone from the drums and have a bit more sustain, try the Evans EC2s or G2s or Remo Emperors.

The torque key is a waste of money; there's too much variability in the tension rods, lug inserts, and everything else. What do you do with a sticky tension rod?

Learn to tune by ear. If necessary get a couple of lessons from a drummer who can tune. Then the only gadget you'll ever need is a drum key.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Remo Pinstripe!

I wouldn't say PS are dead sounding at all!

Depends too what drums you play.
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:18 PM
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I wouldn't say PS are dead sounding at all!

Depends too what drums you play.
Well, compared to hydraulics, perhaps not.

Let me rephrase: they have a very short sustain. Many people like this sound, and that's terrific.

Other drummers have moved on, and now prefer heads that let a little tone out of the shells and sustain a bit more. Or a lot more.

On a practical note, if you play out unmiked, sustain is what helps your sound cut through the band. I have heard unmiked kits live with pinstripes many times, and the toms sound real soft and undifferentiated--you hear the attack but no tone.

Pins might be perfect if you're always miked, however.
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:15 PM
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I wouldn't say PS are dead sounding at all!

Depends too what drums you play.
I use pinstripes on my present kit, Sonor; and past kit, Gretsch and in both cases I have found them to respond very well and also easy to tune, in fact I get quite a growl from them when desired. The tuning key from Evans is not designed to use as a final step but allows you to bring the heads up on a fairly even keel and then you tune properly; it's a time saver and it works. I use the eraser end of a pencil as I go around the tuning spots, also best way to tune your reso. without leaving any marks. I could recommend these heads with out feeling I steered any one the wrong way.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:08 PM
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Well, compared to hydraulics, perhaps not.

Let me rephrase: they have a very short sustain. Many people like this sound, and that's terrific.

Other drummers have moved on, and now prefer heads that let a little tone out of the shells and sustain a bit more. Or a lot more.

On a practical note, if you play out unmiked, sustain is what helps your sound cut through the band. I have heard unmiked kits live with pinstripes many times, and the toms sound real soft and undifferentiated--you hear the attack but no tone.

Pins might be perfect if you're always miked, however.
I found them to sing very nicely, depends on the resos too.
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Old 08-31-2008, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Remo Pinstripe!

I have to say that using pinstripes definitely depends on the drums- I also use clear Ambassadors on the reso side . I have a Ludwig Classic Maple kit (what everyone refers to as Bonham sizes) and actually the pinstripes dont deaden my kit at all. For whatever reason I actually get more of a dampening sound out of coated emperors or the Aquarina Response 2's when I use them. I know the basic thought on pinstripes is that they really deaden the sound but that's not always true. I know the larger sizes of my drums have a lot to do with it so take it for what it's worth I guess..lol
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Remo Pinstripe!

well I dunno much about pinstripes.

but I bought the torque key, I don't know if my lugs are dirty at the moment since i cleaned them, but i can't get the thing to tune accurate.

I turn to 2, and when it pops, i go across, pops... then the next lug, it pops earlier... wait thats not right.

20$ isn't worth it. going by ear is the best thing unless every bit of the lug and millimeter of the washer is squeaky clean get it.
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Well, compared to hydraulics, perhaps not.

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