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Old 12-12-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Heads for my new Ludwig kit - Advice!

Hey all,

I sold my secondary kit and have replaced it w/ a Ludwig USA Maple 4pc, which will be here Friday. I'm going out on lunch today to buy heads for it. I prefer Remo and am just curious what type of Remos others prefer for these kits?

I like a wide-open sound and I'm not a basher, but I play mostly rock and blues...so a double-ply might be best. I'm thinking of putting clear emps on the batters and clear ambassadors on the resos. I've tried coated emps on my DW kit and they just sounded like hitting paper bags.

What about diplomats for the resos? I like a thin reso and I don't mind a little ring from my drums...in fact I like it. The more resonance, the better...for sure.

What about smooth-coated emperors? Do they sound any different than the clear? I've never used them.

I got my Black Beauty that goes w/ this kit, last week...it sounds AMAZING with a coated ambassador/ambassador snare combo (what I prefer on all of my snares.)

Anyhow, advice is welcome, thanks!

Thanks!
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Heads for my new Ludwig kit - Advice!

I've tried the smooth emps batter and they are okay with the Amb's on resonant.
I do prefer a coated head on the batter so there is less slap from the stick in my sound overall.

I would go with coated Ambs or Emps on the batter and clear Ambs on resonant. that is always a good starting point and classic combination for good overall general tones.
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: Heads for my new Ludwig kit - Advice!

Alright! Another Ludwig-er!

You're gonna love your Ludwig kit.
If you like resonace, you'll get it. Very easy to tune drums, and record fantastic (and quick) as well.

What sizes did you get?

REMO Heads:
Coated Ambassadors or Coated Emps sound GREAT over Clear (or coated) Ambassadors.

The Ludwig Clears that will come with it sound real good on the bottom too.

They have a short collar which have a shorter sustain than a regular clear Ambassador, but they are real durrable and sound good.

Plus, you'll have 2 sets of bottom heads to go through without buying more to replace them.

Diplomats will give a shorter sustain than the Ambassador.

A Coated on the bottom will warm up the tone a bit.

Coated Ludwig Mediums over clear med or the Heavy, sounds real good too.
Ludwig heads have a great coating, and are pretty durrable, and sound good--even if you get a dent in them, which I found suprising. I'd use them all the time if I didn't have to order them.

The great thing about Ludwig drums is that just about ANY head combo you want to use will sound really good on them.

Good choice with the Black Beauty too. I love mine (all 3 :)! ).

Have fun!!!!
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:04 PM
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Alright! Another Ludwig-er!

You're gonna love your Ludwig kit.
If you like resonace, you'll get it. Very easy to tune drums, and record fantastic (and quick) as well.

What sizes did you get?

REMO Heads:
Coated Ambassadors or Coated Emps sound GREAT over Clear (or coated) Ambassadors.

The Ludwig Clears that will come with it sound real good on the bottom too.

They have a short collar which have a shorter sustain than a regular clear Ambassador, but they are real durrable and sound good.

Plus, you'll have 2 sets of bottom heads to go through without buying more to replace them.

Diplomats will give a shorter sustain than the Ambassador.

A Coated on the bottom will warm up the tone a bit.

Coated Ludwig Mediums over clear med or the Heavy, sounds real good too.
Ludwig heads have a great coating, and are pretty durrable, and sound good--even if you get a dent in them, which I found suprising. I'd use them all the time if I didn't have to order them.

The great thing about Ludwig drums is that just about ANY head combo you want to use will sound really good on them.

Good choice with the Black Beauty too. I love mine (all 3 :)! ).

Have fun!!!!
I had to have a Ludwig kit...they're just making fantastic drums these days. The Black Beauty is amazing...I needed more ring and I got it...and it just sounds incredibly warm and fat on recordings. Off-topic...but...what type of snares would you recommend? The Ludwigs that came w/ it feel a bit cheap.

Anyhow, I sold a DW kit to pay for the Luds and some new cymbals...I wanted something a bit different...I'm excited for them to get here!

I grabbed clear emps and ambass. at lunch...I usually like coated heads (especially Fiberskyns) but after playing my drum teacher's kit w/ clear emps on it...I was floored...they're awesome heads. I grabbed a Powerstroke 3 (clear) for the kick.

The kit is a 4pc in "Arctic White" lacquer:

14x22 kick
16x16 floor tom
9x13 tom
6.5x14 Black Beauty snare (tube lugs)

If I like them, I'm going to order a 14" floor tom to round it out...as I usually play a 5pc. w/ a 14" and 16" on the floor.

Here's the eBay pics...I'll post more once I have it and set it up w/ my cymbals and the Black Beauty:
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Heads for my new Ludwig kit - Advice!

Looks like an awesome kit!
You are gonna have some fun with those!!

I actually like the Ludwig wires...I like a little 'dirt' in the snare sound, but, any type that have a heavier end (at least) where the wires attach give a more solid sound. Heavier gage wires will give a beefier sound too.

World Max have some, Purecussion...Pearl has some nice wires where the strings go in a little indented part so they don't affect the head...DW wires, Puresound.....Gretsch wires always sounded good to me....

In my humble opinion, you are going to be much happier with the Ludwig kit than the DW.

I'll admit to have been tempted to get a DW kit in the past (because of some really good deals), but everytime I play one of those kit's, it's like "Where's all the sound?"

Yeah, DW has great finishes, but I've played on some Pacific kit's and the ooolllddd Workshop series kits, that sounded better than their $2000 & more top line.

Hey, if people really dig DW, great, I'm not going to rant and bash them.
It's just not there for me drum-wise.

Their hardware is top notch, some of the best ever. I have a whole set (and then some) of DW hardware and it's lasted years with no problems.
The 9000 stuff is superb...it's just that the sound of their drums does nothing for me.

For me, in the 30+ years that I have been playing EVERY Ludwig drum I have owned, heard, or played on has sounded great. Even the upper Accent line drums sound good, and with good heads, and tuning they can sound great.

I'm glad Ludwig is "back" and they aren't the forgotten step-child given scraps anymore.

I heard they are going to be putting out a full line catalog for '08 too. That's not happened in forever.

Have fun with your new kit!!!
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:58 PM
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Zam

How did those heads work for you?
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