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Old 06-03-2008, 05:50 AM
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During early March of this year I had mounted Coated G2s over clear G1s on my everyday DW kit. They sounded great. A month later I bought the Yamaha kit and set it up with the same heads that I had on the DWs. I've been playing the Yamaha kit since then.

The DWs stayed at the ready while I was messing with the Yamahas. I decided that while the Yamaha kit was pretty much dialed in, and fresh in my mind, that this would be a good time to do a direct comparison between the two kits.

The rack toms on the DWs are an inch deeper than the Yamahas, The floor toms and kick are the same size. This DW kit isn't timbre matched BTW. It was a kit that I bought on e bay. That said, this kit has always impressed me.

Both kits have a double tom holder mounted on the kick, and the floor toms have legs on both kits. This is probably as close as the two kits are ever going to get. Switching out the shell packs was super easy. I fly the 8 inch rack tom off a cymbal stand so it was just a matter of changing the clamps for the tom.

I spent most of the morning messing with the bass drum. I tried PS3s front and back. PS3 batter with a EMAD reso, and the other way around. EQ1 batter and reso, and EMAD2 with EMAD reso. I went with the later combo.

The batter side is at medium tension and the reso is pitched way down. About a half turn above finger tight.
I thought it sounded OK. By contrast the PS3s sounded good on my Ludwig kit, but sounded a little slappy on the DWs. The heads fit the Dubs much better than on the Ludwigs.

Here's a short sound byte of the DWs:
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:53 AM
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Fred,
Them babies be sounding gooood. Your playing is solid too. What snare are you using?
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:13 AM
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Them babies be sounding gooood. Your playing is solid too. What snare are you using?
Hi Greg,

Thanks my friend. It means a lot to me.

The snare is the Ocheltree steel snare that I got a while back. I hadn't had it out for a while. Sounded OK. Really friggin loud. This is a cool drum. Nobody's looking at them, and there hasn't been much discussion about this snare. A sleeper I guess, but a cool drum none the less. MFs got em.

I can crank it some more. It's about 75%. I thought a little ringy on the sound byte, but outta be OK for live rock.

Thanks again!
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:57 AM
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Hi Greg,

Thanks my friend. It means a lot to me.

The snare is the Ocheltree steel snare that I got a while back. I hadn't had it out for a while. Sounded OK. Really friggin loud. This is a cool drum. Nobody's looking at them, and there hasn't been much discussion about this snare. A sleeper I guess, but a cool drum none the less. MFs got em.

I can crank it some more. It's about 75%. I thought a little ringy on the sound byte, but outta be OK for live rock.

Thanks again!
I noticed you were trying to sell that Ocheltree on ebay, no buyers? It sounds really good in the recording. That is a great outdoor, unmiced snare, I would keep it. You never know when those frickin guitar players want to go toe to toe
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: New Yamaha MCAN.

Hello Freddy,

GREAT SOUNDING KITS!!!!

Both of them sound great. I did dig the snare. It sounded great with the little bit of ring.

Your playing was fantastic also. Great grooving!!!!

Congrats on two fantastic kits and keeping your marriage strong!

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I noticed you were trying to sell that Ocheltree on ebay, no buyers? It sounds really good in the recording. That is a great outdoor, unmiced snare, I would keep it. You never know when those frickin guitar players want to go toe to toe
I had it listed for a week. I guess I'm glad it didn't sell. I did sell a Brady stave drum and a Ludwig ply drum. Down to a dozen snares now. I'm probably going to list a couple more. The Ludwig kit needs to find a home as well.

I want to get some solid metal drums. Cast shells. Not the rolled and welded ones. I'm looking at a couple other Yammie wood drums too.

There's no end to it.
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Hello Freddy,

GREAT SOUNDING KITS!!!!

Both of them sound great. I did dig the snare. It sounded great with the little bit of ring.

Your playing was fantastic also. Great grooving!!!!

Congrats on two fantastic kits and keeping your marriage strong!

Mike
Hi Mike,

Thanks for the kind words!!

Take care.
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Old 06-04-2008, 05:15 AM
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In the pocket is right, Fred.. that was a phatt groove!
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Old 06-04-2008, 05:41 PM
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In the pocket is right, Fred.. that was a phatt groove!
Thanks very much! Sometimes I almost sound like a drummer again. Then there's the other times. Ugh!

I've learned so much here. You guys have really been great. I wish I would have had a resource like this back in the day. It probably would have made a difference.

Thank you all for the input!
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