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Old 04-24-2008, 07:43 PM
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Default Anyone tried this thing? (Body Beat metronome)

It's the "Body Beat" metronome... instead of audio pulse it uses a pulse with tactile contact... the whole Idea being that physical stimulation helps you interiorize the tempo more and have less distractions than audio or visual... aiding your concentration... sounds interesting.

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Old 04-24-2008, 07:48 PM
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Sounds scary...what does it do to you, exactly?
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:50 PM
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The BodyBeat® offers a new approach on typical metronome use. The BodyBeat metronome produces a pulsing vibration allowing musicians to easily internalize the beat. The BodyBeat clips onto the belt line and a small separate “vibe clip” transmits the beat, in the form of a pulse (including subdivisions and accents) directly to the user.


Research has shown that separate neural pathways to the brain exist for tactile impulses and visible/audible information which is why musicians find that tactile pulses are quickly internalized, allowing them to concentrate on reading and listening to the music without the constant distraction of an audio or visual metronome. Feeling the beat, not having to listen to clicks or look at blinking LEDs makes it much easier to focus on the music and playing in correct time.

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Old 04-24-2008, 07:51 PM
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Sounds scary...what does it do to you, exactly?
"instead of audio pulse it uses a pulse with tactile contact"

Looks like this belongs in DMC's thread about drum junk. Looks like a real niche market as i imagine only deaf drummers would need one.

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Old 04-24-2008, 08:26 PM
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Research has shown that separate neural pathways to the brain exist for tactile impulses and visible/audible information

I wonder how much research they had to do to figure out that tactile impulses didn't travel through the same passages to the brain as eyesight and hearing. I guess that research cost is reflected in the cost.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:07 PM
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Well I dunno... some teachers tap on their students shoulder... in latin percussion tempo is felt thorugh clapping... there may be somethng into this... but I'm not sure if on my belt is where I'd like to feel this pulse... It'll be good to see if someone actually tried it.
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"instead of audio pulse it uses a pulse with tactile contact"

Looks like this belongs in DMC's thread about drum junk. Looks like a real niche market as i imagine only deaf drummers would need one.

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I wouldn't write it off entirely. There are a lot of screwy drum gadgets out there but some people respond better to visual or audible or tactile cues. I know I use the lights on my metronome more than the beeping. This is the same idea as the ButtKicker thingy that shakes your throne, just applied to a metronome. I wonder what would happen if you sent the audio out of a metronome into a ButtKicker?

A drummer who is deaf and/or blind might also find this helpful. I'll bet Fourstrings knows of some people could use this. Come to think of it, where is Fourstrings? Haven't seen him here in a while.

It would be cool to invent something that administers a mild electric shock, like a static shock, when you deviate too far from the tempo. You would definitely have a big incentive to internalize the beat ASAP!
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:32 PM
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I can't see the use in this, if you use a metrenome enough then you should get to the point where you have a great sense of the pulse anyway.

*edit* what i mean is that a normal metrenome is fine :P

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It would be cool to invent something that administers a mild electric shock, like a static shock, when you deviate too far from the tempo. You would definitely have a big incentive to internalize the beat ASAP!
That would certainly be a good way to "thin the herd". They should make those for all instruments.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:55 PM
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So its basically a vibration that you feel...

Not too far off from the ButtKicker concept. I suppose, just on a scaled down metronome version. Feeling the beat instead of hearing it. I'm not gunna be the type to say 'its not for me' but i'd definitely like to try the thing out before I think of buying it.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:00 AM
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I quite like the idea as i find it alot easier to hear beat to play, sounding it out to myself and hearing a click rather than seeing a light flash. Bit expensive but would like to try it out.
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Well, if it had both vibrations and sound coming from it, then we would have a good idea.

I cant imagine that the battery lasts to long on this, It needs an AC adapter.
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Old 04-25-2008, 03:14 AM
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Nothing like a 'Butt Kicker' unless you run a metronome through a power amp, then to Butt-Kicker. Audible and visual modes included on Body-Beat.

If it does double duty as a parasite killer, that'd be cool.

Parameters:
Tempo: 40-216 BPM. Adjustable in 1 Beat Increments.
Beats: Can be Set to 0-9 Beats per Bar. Adjustable in 1 Beat Increments.
Divisions: Quarter Notes, Eight Notes, Triplets, Sixteenth Notes, Dotted Eighth and Sixteenth Notes, Dotted Sixteenth and 32nd Notes, Sixteenth and Dotted Eighth Notes, 32nd and Dotted Sixteenth Notes..


Dimensions: 3.78” (96mm) x 2.84” (72mm) x 1.21” (30.6mm)
Weight: 0.3lbs / 136g
Power: Single 9V Battery
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Nothing like a 'Butt Kicker' unless you run a metronome through a power amp, then to Butt-Kicker. Audible and visual modes included on Body-Beat.



Right, I forgot to include that. I realize the ButtKicker is used as a monitor, but I was strictly talking about the similar vibration effect it gives.
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:55 AM
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Right, I forgot to include that. I realize the ButtKicker is used as a monitor, but I was strictly talking about the similar vibration effect it gives.

... yeah, we know what you ment, but not everyone knows what a Butt Kicker is though.

I think Body Beat is a great idea.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:17 PM
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I ordered one last night. I'll post a review after I check it out.

I believe that the concept is sound. I have a Yamaha Click Station and it has a vibrate function for quiet count-offs. I've used it and found no problem locking in with it. Being that the tactile and auditory pathways in the brain are discrete, it might just open up a new way of perceiving the beat.

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I realize the ButtKicker is used as a monitor, but I was strictly talking about the similar vibration effect it gives.
There's a bigger difference: the ButtKicker vibration is a response to a beat the drummer generates, it's not a timekeeping pulse.

I would think that instead of allowing one to focus on the music, it would be a distraction. In other words, instead of getting all the musical information in one place - via hearing - it requires new attention to a small 'thump' for tempo, while still engaging the ears for the rest of the information. Seems like a lot of double-duty, especially for those who are doing just fine with clicks & tracks.

And what about those who also use a ButtKicker? And perhaps who have a bass player who generates a lot of percussive pops & thumps? that's an awful lot of extra vibration to sort out... no?

But I will defer to Jeff's hands-on test, as my opinion is based only on what I've read about the device.

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Old 05-03-2008, 10:51 PM
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I got one and it has relatively limited use. The vibe-thingy works well at slow to moderate tempos, just don't try to play 16th note subdivisions at 160 BPM on it. It just feels like a bee on you.

It works well when I'm playing on the pad but I tried it at a band rehearsal last nite and it didn't make it past the count-off.

Once the Les Pauls kick in, forget about being able to lock in with that little pulsing feeling. It's barely noticeable.

Not a big winner, unfortunately.
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