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Old 03-20-2008, 06:19 PM
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Anyone know about, or have experience with Brass hoops?

Are Brass snare hoops available these days?

I was saying that Ludwig snares from the 70's weren't really any different than the ones produced today, but I came across a thread that did an A/B with regular hoops and Brass hoops, on a couple of Supras, and I could hear a difference.

There wasn't a ton of difference, but the brass hoops made the drum just a little "sweeter" sounding to my ear.

So now I'll know there's some difference in sound between older, 70's B/O badge drums, and new ones.

From this A/B, my thought is, it would make the most difference on a non-muffled drum.

If people put moon gel, or tape on the drum to get that type of sound, the era of the drum probably wouldn't matter much.

I like my snare wide open, so if I could get Brass hoops, I'd really like to.

Were Brass hoops less durable or something?

Thanks for any info you guy's can give!
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: Brass snare hoops

http://www.drumfactorydirect.com/ind...oducts_id=2001

I was just looking for the same thing and I found those. They have other sizes and stuff, but that's for a 14". They also have brass lugs and tension rods and stuff to make it all match. I'm going to brass-atize my old Ludwig snare soon.
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Default Re: Brass snare hoops

www.amdrumparts.com also sells brass hardware and hoops.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Brass snare hoops

Thanks guys,
I found that Tama make hoops made of Brass, not just plated in Brass.

I ordered a set, so I'll post a review.

Price was about $72 for top and snare side Brass Mighty Hoops.
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Thanks guys,
I found that Tama make hoops made of Brass, not just plated in Brass.

I ordered a set, so I'll post a review.

Price was about $72 for top and snare side Brass Mighty Hoops.
I've been wondering about these also. Are the Tamas diecast? I know that Cherie Willoughby is selling some really nice ones on ebay. They are a bit expensive, but I've heard some of the vintage guys raving about them. Here's a link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Supraphonic-...742.m153.l1262
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Old 04-26-2008, 05:49 AM
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Anyone know about, or have experience with Brass hoops?

Are Brass snare hoops available these days?

I was saying that Ludwig snares from the 70's weren't really any different than the ones produced today, but I came across a thread that did an A/B with regular hoops and Brass hoops, on a couple of Supras, and I could hear a difference.

There wasn't a ton of difference, but the brass hoops made the drum just a little "sweeter" sounding to my ear.

So now I'll know there's some difference in sound between older, 70's B/O badge drums, and new ones.

From this A/B, my thought is, it would make the most difference on a non-muffled drum.

If people put moon gel, or tape on the drum to get that type of sound, the era of the drum probably wouldn't matter much.

I like my snare wide open, so if I could get Brass hoops, I'd really like to.

Were Brass hoops less durable or something?

Thanks for any info you guy's can give!
Brass was used because it was cheap and easy to mold, once price went up, it was out the window COB hoopa and hello COS.

And yeah about that difference in sound, its definitely there and noticeable enough to consider. If you take a COB hoop, hold it slightly by the tip of your middle finger and hit it with a stick, you hear a nice bell like quality/note unlike a steal hoop that kinda goes "clank". COB hoops help the drum sing, adds cut and clarity, and warmer rim shots as well.

Cherie's prices are very reasonable, and the hoops are of very nice quality. So look into getting a set of those if you are really interested, make sure you get the right ones in terms of lug holes.
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Brass snare hoops

Thanks for that SmoothJazz.

Yeah, I heard a difference just from the sound files someone posted, and I want that more open, cleaner sound for my Hammered Supra.

Other hoops that I've seen that have a real nice tone to them are the S-Hoops, but I wanted to get the Brass for this Supra.

I ordered the Tama Brass hoops, but I'm going to check out the other companies info too.

The Tama hoops were pretty reasonable at $72 for the pair....for the 10 lug hole hoops :-)!


That would suck for someone to buy hoops, and have them come in with the wrong hole pattern.....yikes!

Thanks again
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