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Old 04-01-2008, 11:12 PM
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The hoops arrived! I had no idea to expect them but they showed up. Unfortunately now all my hardware is at my band's rehearsal spot because we have rehearsal tomorrow and I didn't think I'd have the hoops before then at this point.

I'll get some pics tonight but audio and fully setup pics will have to wait a few days. I'll probably post an official presentation thread :-)
don't post any pics untill you have the whole set assembled, that would spoil the fun :-P.

Great that you got those hoops man, now everything is safe :)
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:53 AM
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don't post any pics untill you have the whole set assembled, that would spoil the fun :-P.

Great that you got those hoops man, now everything is safe :)
I agree. That would spoil all the fun. Although, now we have to wait in anticipation even longer now. Haha. I hope everything turns out okay, and you end up happy.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:59 AM
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The hoops arrived! I had no idea to expect them but they showed up. Unfortunately now all my hardware is at my band's rehearsal spot because we have rehearsal tomorrow and I didn't think I'd have the hoops before then at this point.

I'll get some pics tonight but audio and fully setup pics will have to wait a few days. I'll probably post an official presentation thread :-)
OMG Is this some kind of april fools joke?
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:42 AM
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OMG Is this some kind of april fools joke?
Haha, no. I had rehearsal Monday night and I didn't expect the hoops to show up because they were missing so I didn't see any sense in lugging my hardware home if I was just going to have another rehearsal on Wednesday.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:04 AM
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I won't have the kit fully set up until Thursday when I have my hardware again. But when I do I'll post a thread with more pics and audio.

Until then...






and while I was there, I took a picture of my McKenzie Steambent Myrtle Snare with new lugs from www.champagnedrum.com

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Old 04-02-2008, 05:19 AM
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The eagle has landed?!!

Wow, they look even better than I imagined. The 2 tone classic hoops are mind- blowing. Rob, somewhere along the line, I'd like you to describe the difference in sound & feel between stave & your Gretsch New Classics. I dont think sound bytes on the comp will do it justice.

I really want to know how different sounding staves are to Hi-end plys.

( My Yammies are feeling very insecure right now.. )
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:21 AM
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You know, I've never understood how shells were made. I mean you take the wood and curve it like that and it's gonna break! Shows you how much I know. I'm a n00b... but could someone be so kind as to briefly explain how they are made?
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:24 AM
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Its not curved. Its a series of rectangular pieces very carefully melded together.

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Old 04-02-2008, 05:24 AM
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Wow... Like was said above, better than I imagined. Big difference with heads and hoops. Alot different than the pic taken with Unix holding the drums in his hands. Wow.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:35 AM
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You know, I've never understood how shells were made. I mean you take the wood and curve it like that and it's gonna break! Shows you how much I know. I'm a n00b... but could someone be so kind as to briefly explain how they are made?
Stave hoops are made out of multiple pieces of wood, each cut at a specific angle so that when they're put together they form the shell. The shell is then lathed on the inside and outside to take off the corners and make it round. Sometimes you can notice the individual pieces even on a completed shell but Frank did a great job on my kit, you can't even tell.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:36 AM
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The eagle has landed?!!

Wow, they look even better than I imagined. The 2 tone classic hoops are mind- blowing. Rob, somewhere along the line, I'd like you to describe the difference in sound & feel between stave & your Gretsch New Classics. I dont think sound bytes on the comp will do it justice.

I really want to know how different sounding staves are to Hi-end plys.

( My Yammies are feeling very insecure right now.. )
Yeah I'll post a new thread with the pics and audio and talk about that and review them in more detail.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:40 AM
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I see now! Yeah, cause when I looked at my shell, I was like... yeah you get the idea. Thanks for the explanation.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:58 AM
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I see now! Yeah, cause when I looked at my shell, I was like... yeah you get the idea. Thanks for the explanation.
The second snare pictured, the amber one with tube lugs, is a Steambent snare which is one piece of wood bent into shape. It doesn't break because the wood is softened before it's bent into shape which makes it pliable.
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:45 AM
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Wow amazing job Frank. And congrats to you too Rob on making some great choices.. I agree with Aydee, the two-tone hoops look awesome. I've never played a Unix kit, but I've heard some good things here on the forums..I'm sure you'll get what you paid for. Not to mention having a blast while playing them. haha
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:15 PM
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Reeaally nice!!!


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Old 04-02-2008, 01:27 PM
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@ Aydee: you should not feel insecure about your Yammies. If you really do feel like you have to let them go I am going to be the best foster-dad there is for those drums :-). Custom drums and high-end 'normal' kits are two whole different ball games if you ask me (except maybe the Reference Series).

@ FSD: Those pictures don't do your set justice I think... They look stunning so far, but I am still eager to see the whole set together with cymbals and everything...
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:36 PM
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You know how it is..thy shall not covet thy neighbor's kit, but thy does ; ) ( check out the views on this thread!!! )

Btw, Frank, I'm hanging with a brilliant Dutch jazz drummer tonight ( Joost Liebaart), and helping him out with my Yammie brass piccollo snare for tonight's gig. Boy, does it sound different when he plays it.
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:32 PM
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Rob.. that kit looks awesome... sold it yet? :P Just kidding!!! hahaha Cant wait to hear it.
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:17 PM
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Rob, thanks so much for the pics!!! That looks so beautiful, a really nice brown indeed.
I`m really looking forward to the audio clips, must sound warm, "round" and simply great...and when did you get the Iron Cobra??

And can you get any close-up pics of the bearing edge?

Thanks a lot...

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Old 04-02-2008, 04:23 PM
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:45 PM
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Rob can you PM me with the model number of those new lugs on your steambent. Me likes.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:01 PM
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when did you get the Iron Cobra??

And can you get any close-up pics of the bearing edge?

Thanks a lot...

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I got the IC about 6 years ago. It's just been hanging around here as a practice pedal. I need to take it apart and clean it though. The hoop clamp is a bit oxidized and messy after the years and the hoop clamp height adjustment (the little wheel on top) is stuck.

There is this picture of a bearing edge close-up. It's probably as good as any picture I could get:

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Old 04-02-2008, 05:48 PM
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Rob can you PM me with the model number of those new lugs on your steambent. Me likes.

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Old 04-02-2008, 11:41 PM
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Man those drums look good. Can't wait to see full set up pictures and hear them. I really like the lugs on both of the snares. Thanks for the link mind_drummer, there lugs are certainly unique.
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Old 04-02-2008, 11:42 PM
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there lugs are certainly unique.
The lugs are VERY light as well.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:31 AM
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Wow dude, that looks super awesome.
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Old 04-03-2008, 05:36 AM
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The lugs are VERY light as well.
Does the weight of lugs actually matter? (I realize that that looks kind of sarcastic but I don't mean it to be at all.)
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Does the weight of lugs actually matter? (I realize that that looks kind of sarcastic but I don't mean it to be at all.)
Well besides reducing the weight of the drum, the heavier the lug, the more mass is added to the shell so the less it resonates.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:43 PM
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There is this picture of a bearing edge close-up. It's probably as good as any picture I could get:

Thanks for the pic. Now I really see how round it actually is. So those bearing edges were supposed to be rounded 30? Or did you choose fully-rounded ones?

I`m really excited to listen to a sound clip of them. Since there`re round bearing edges and totally laquered shells the sound should be pretty focused and warm.

Delicious for sure!! =)

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Old 04-03-2008, 05:19 PM
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Thanks for the pic. Now I really see how round it actually is. So those bearing edges were supposed to be rounded 30? Or did you choose fully-rounded ones?

I`m really excited to listen to a sound clip of them. Since there`re round bearing edges and totally laquered shells the sound should be pretty focused and warm.

Delicious for sure!! =)

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They are fully rounded edges, no angle.

I'll try and get some more pics and audio this afternoon :)
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:20 PM
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beautiful drums I bet they sound JUSt as nice as they look if not better! congrats
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Really, really, nice Rob. A long time coming, but now the long wait is over. I like the T handles on the kick. Real classy. The kit looks amazing.

I'm excited for you. Enjoy!!
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They are fully rounded edges, no angle.

I'll try and get some more pics and audio this afternoon :)
Cool. I'm really curious to see how that sounds, as I've never heard a kit without the typical 45 or 30 degree edges.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:30 PM
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Absolutely beautiful Rob, I'm happy you got yourself such a nice kit. Let's hear it!
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Well besides reducing the weight of the drum, the heavier the lug, the more mass is added to the shell so the less it resonates.
Oh; I never thought anything of the lugs other than aesthetics.
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:05 AM
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PICS & AUDIO!

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