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Old 03-24-2008, 01:29 AM
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Default Vintage Ludwig Speedking

i recently got a vintage 70's speedking. does anyone rate them? i find it much easier to play than alot the modern pedals.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:45 AM
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You might like this thread http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ate+speed+king
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:38 AM
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Although the Speed King is a great pedal as far as the feel, the Speed King has acquired down thru the ages, the dubious nickname “ Squeak King” for its well earned reputation of constantly squeaking.



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Old 03-25-2008, 06:51 AM
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I've got a speedking =] It needs a clean though.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: Vintage Ludwig Speedking

ive been looking into getting a new pedal.

and ive been looking at the speed king and the yamaha direct drive one?

is there any real difference besides the yamaha one having a plate?
is the yamaha one better?
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:21 AM
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If by the "Yamaha one", you are referring to the Flying Dragon, it is a completely different animal than the Speed King. Other than both pedals are direct drive pedals, the similarity ends there. I've always liked direct drive pedals, so along with with the Ludwig, I have a Ghost pedal, and a Tama HP 55 King Beat pedal. On display in my "pedal museum". I own 2 Yamaha Flying Dragon single pedals, which I play.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:28 PM
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ya the flying dragon is the one im talking about.

would you care to elaborate on their differences?
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I don't. have anything to back this up but I always wondered if the Deep Purple song "Speed King" got the title from the pedal? I know the lyric "I'm a speed king,you got too hear me sing" does not have anything to do with drums but I know when they released that song Ian Paice was playing Ludwigs and he used a Speed King Pedal I know i'm probably talking out my arse but it's always been in the back of my mind ever since I heard the tune.By the way a Speed King was my first bass drum pedal I was so young back then(4 yrs. old) I had a old rogers kit my dad gave me with the swivl-matic pedal but I put the Speed King on instead and I always like them over the Ghost pedals too and the squeakey reference made me laugh a little also.

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Old 03-25-2008, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Vintage Ludwig Speedking

While you guys are talking about the Speed King, I have a quick and easy question.

Whats the deal with that heel plate? know it rotates but ive never quite understood why or how.
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Whats the deal with that heel plate? know it rotates but ive never quite understood why or how.
With a Speed King in good functioning shape and all the parts, there is a nut that will affix the heel plate to the footboard, thus giving you a longboard kind of action. Swivel the heelplate 180 degrees and it becomes more of a heel rest/block.
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With a Speed King in good functioning shape and all the parts, there is a nut that will affix the heel plate to the footboard, thus giving you a longboard kind of action. Swivel the heelplate 180 degrees and it becomes more of a heel rest/block.

I always thought it was for flat foot and heel up. Now the big forum question.

How did Bongo, Bamo or whatever, have his set, flat or tapered?
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:33 AM
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I don't. have anything to back this up but I always wondered if the Deep Purple song "Speed King" got the title from the pedal? I know the lyric "I'm a speed king,you got too hear me sing" does not have anything to do with drums but I know when they released that song Ian Paice was playing Ludwigs and he used a Speed King Pedal I know i'm probably talking out my arse but it's always been in the back of my mind ever since I heard the tune.By the way a Speed King was my first bass drum pedal I was so young back then(4 yrs. old) I had a old rogers kit my dad gave me with the swivl-matic pedal but I put the Speed King on instead and I always like them over the Ghost pedals too and the squeakey reference made me laugh a little also.

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Uh, this was actually quite humorous and it is nice to know that I am not the only one who can go down such a rabbit trail.......

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would you care to elaborate on their differences?
The Speed King was patented sometime around 1936 (Walter Huckstead, inv.) It's action works off 2 compression springs located inside the vertical frame members. The pedal is light weight, by any modern standpoint, and so easily destroyed by the more modern, aggressive, drummers. The Yamaha FDDD is a pedal of the current decade. It uses a single, external expansion spring for it's action. It's built stronger, and is way more adjustable. And it has a floor plate. Now, you can make and mount a floor plate to a Speed King (follow this link http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ate+speed+king ). Since you say "you've been looking at" both pedals, try to get your feet on both. Take 'em for a drive, so to speak. The difference will probably become apparent. Like riding a 74 Honda CB 550 and then a 2003 CBR 600.
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