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Old 02-21-2008, 06:33 AM
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Pat's new P4 practice pad is the bomb diggity!

I had the opportunity to buy from Pat directly and it takes practicing to a new FUN level (no pun intended!). The 4 rubber "zones" give entirely different feels and the main black pad on the bottom level is just the right amount of give and hardness to mimic a snare drum-like batter head. I also really dig the grey pad zone, it feels softer and just like your bouncing on a floor tom or something.

It's a great way to practice the rudiments like you are flowing around the drumkit... but on a pad!

Good job on this one Pat! Now we just need your signature drumsticks to come out!
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:48 AM
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Hey Pat,
I've been a fan since your Snare Drum Rudiments back in the 90's. Thanks for all the great work. I've learned a lot.

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WOW! I feel so old :)

Thanks so much for the kind words.

Anyway, I hope you check out "Hands, Grooves, & Fills", cause I think you'll dig it.

Let me know

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Old 02-28-2008, 12:58 AM
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Hey, Pat

Dude, you are so awesome!!! I love your DVD & Book, just the bomb, I've gotton SO much better , and my reading has improved , too!

SO, I hear you are a Ludwig artist! GREAT, when can we see pictures of your kit, and what did you get???

How do you do that solo at the end of the E.Z!

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Old 02-29-2008, 02:00 AM
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Jason

Well, thanks so much, and it's great that you dig the DVD and Book! I think it will improve your overall playing, so stick to it, and keep up the good work!

As for the drums, I hope to have them soon, as I can't wait to get my hands on them and experience the Ludwig sound ! I will post pictures when I get them

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Old 02-29-2008, 04:01 AM
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Hello Pat,

I was on your website and listened to some samples of your H.G.F CD and looks like a great tool. I am (54) and still do about 120 shows per year, the music is from the 50's and 60's. Not the most challenging music but I try to do give it my best every night and take pride in my playing. That's also my problem I feel as though I am at a stand still technically. I am hoping that by purchasing your CD and finding the time to sit down and really work at it that it will help rejuvenate me and put some excitement back into my playing.

Any advice you can give to an old rocker is greatly appreciated.

Thanks and keep up the great work.

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Old 03-03-2008, 04:57 AM
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Thanks very much, and I think H,G&F will be perfect for you to break out that "2&4" thing, without going crazy "linear" or unusable grooves.

The play along tracks are fun, and if you can't play the groove I created exactly, you can play something similiar, and still be creative. Thats the FUN part! There are many different grooves that can be created with these little "mini songs" I wrote for each groove...SO HAVE GO FOR IT!

I look forward to hearing from you
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:55 PM
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Thanks Pat,

By the way the CD is on the way......so is the P4 pad :-) Looking forward to it.

I'll keep you posted and by all means feel free to give me free advice anytime lol

Thanks again,

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Old 03-04-2008, 01:04 PM
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Great, Pete! Will do...
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Yo Pat-

Whats up? Great to see you in LA-Time flies-It is March all ready. Anyway-Just saying hey-Hope to see you in town soon

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Old 03-12-2008, 06:48 AM
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By the way the CD is on the way......so is the P4 pad :-) Looking forward to it.

I'll keep you posted and by all means feel free to give me free advice anytime lol

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Old 03-12-2008, 10:36 AM
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Hey pat, just wondering if there's anywhere on the net where i can check out some songs of your band? I really enjoy a lot of the examples on your dvd (linear groove 6 in particular, the gospel/RnB one), and just wanted to listen to your band.
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:02 PM
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Congratulations Pat for getting second place for "Educational Book" in the Modern Drummer's Reader's Poll!


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Old 03-13-2008, 08:35 PM
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Hi Pat

Received the H.G&F, also the P4 pad. You are correct, there are 10lbs of material in a 5lb package. Pretty much just getting my reading going again with the hands section. Great warm ups and if I find myself getting lost I put the DVD on. Up to about 160bpm on the 553.

Having a blast with the play alongs as well, and there is no shortage of tunes to work with.

Great value. Thanks for the inspiration.

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Old 03-13-2008, 11:47 PM
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:11 PM
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Hey pat, just wondering if there's anywhere on the net where i can check out some songs of your band? I really enjoy a lot of the examples on your dvd (linear groove 6 in particular, the gospel/RnB one), and just wanted to listen to your band.
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Just back from th UK, sorry it took a minute to reply..

The "Groovallegiance" CD is being mixed and edited now, so look out for that in the fall. It will have play alongs as well!

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Old 03-17-2008, 01:12 PM
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THANKS, TERRY ! No, YOU da man :)

It's cool that people really dig it, and honored to be "on the list" !
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:30 PM
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it was great. i arrived in the pouring rain at the London center of contemporary music at about 5:00 and sat around waiting for Pat to come. i let him in (the LCCM front door is tricky) and immediately he was the warm friendly guy you might expect having watched his DVD. Soon we were upstairs setting up the clinic kit and putting new heads on the drums. it was cool to watch him tune up and then warm up. i saw amazing feel and dexterity up close. what an experience. i was glad i could be his roady for the evening. i helped de-buzz a tomtom and did some adjustments on the recalcitrant hardware. His cymbals are really cool. he is particularly happy with his gorgeuos 21'' prototype zildjian ride. it is unlathed and covered with a mixture of the biggest hammer marks (about the size of a baby's fist) and tiny hammer dimples. it has an enormous clear bell great projection and almost no wash. i have recently switched to pinstripes on mytoms and was pleased to see that Pat likes them too.

i felt really foolish when i whipped out my wife's D200 camera only to find it had no battery. Doh! Pat gave me his camera and so at least we had a few shots of the show, but really you have to be there to see it.

At around seven the room filled up (about 30 of us - nice and cosy) and pat started. first up was a warm up solo that was tasteful and choppy with lots of rudiment orchestration and blinding singles. then pat played along to a selection of tracks including a beatles song and one of those really tough half swung tunes. He handed out experpts from his book and talked us through each one with application and avice on learning them. As you can imagine the evening was about HANDS (we saw some great pad work on Pat's new three stepped pad [which i tried out BTW and it was superb], GROOVES (probably the most useful part of the clinic - Pat talked us through developing a drum part from the obvious choice of groove when first hearing a bass line to displacing notes, adding ghosts etc and so eventually to change the obvious to the unique and yet still appropriate [he calls it groove-alution]) and FILLS (i really love pat's fills - he takes one idea at a time and really creatively applies it all over the kit and within grooves)
pat also spent some time talking about how he broke into the industry and gave us a view of the modern industry and how intolerant it is of things such as being late, drunk or drugged.

after most people had left (about 8:30) a few stayed behind to talk to pat and we had an exclusive look at his bass drum technique which was yet another eye opener.

all in all, if you ever get the chance to see pat in clinic - GO! you will be glad you did. even if the opportuniy doesn't come up, get his book (no2 on the modern drummer poll) and start putting a bit of patrilloness in your playing.

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Old 03-18-2008, 01:45 AM
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Welcome back Pat!!!

I'm glad to see our friends across the pond enjoyed your teachings and love of the groove!

I look forward to resuming our sessions in April.

I also hope I can get a spin on that Prototype ride of yours and see the Ludwigs!!!! I think I've only played with one of your earlier prototype rides at Aarius.
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Old 03-18-2008, 10:58 AM
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Just back from th UK, sorry it took a minute to reply..

The "Groovallegiance" CD is being mixed and edited now, so look out for that in the fall. It will have play alongs as well!

All the Best
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Old 03-18-2008, 06:39 PM
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Hi Pat

Received the H.G&F, also the P4 pad. You are correct, there are 10lbs of material in a 5lb package. Pretty much just getting my reading going again with the hands section. Great warm ups and if I find myself getting lost I put the DVD on. Up to about 160bpm on the 553.

Having a blast with the play alongs as well, and there is no shortage of tunes to work with.

Great value. Thanks for the inspiration.

Pete
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Thanks so much, and if you need any help, let me know, and I'll see if I can square it away for you.

Enjoy the pad!!
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:33 PM
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Pat, I just read your hands grooves and fills article in the Jason Bonham issue of modern drummer, Loved the six stroke exersise and I brought it to practice and my teacher was blown away with my exercise and control of just practicing that for only 1 week!, I will be picking up a copy of HG&F from you soon, thanks for the awesome dedication to the community.

Peace bro and hope to see more of you in the future.
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:03 PM
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Hi!

I was wondering, what kind of drums do you use? And what kind of drumheads do you use on Hands, grooves and fills?

cheers

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Old 03-20-2008, 03:33 AM
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Pat, I just read your hands grooves and fills article in the Jason Bonham issue of modern drummer, Loved the six stroke exersise and I brought it to practice and my teacher was blown away with my exercise and control of just practicing that for only 1 week!, I will be picking up a copy of HG&F from you soon, thanks for the awesome dedication to the community.

Peace bro and hope to see more of you in the future.
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YES! Those 6 stroke roll fills work in many situations. Let me know what you think of H,G&F when you get it!

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Old 03-22-2008, 02:23 PM
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I was wondering, what kind of drums do you use? And what kind of drumheads do you use on Hands, grooves and fills?

cheers

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I am endorsing the new Ludwig drums, and they sound great. They are the classic maples, 10, 12, 14 floor, 20 Kik. I think a good maple drum with great edges from most companies will sound really good.

The heads on "Hands, Grooves, & Fills" are Clear Remo Emperors. I tune the drums in the middle of the range, so that they really sing out. My sound tends to be fat because of the tuning, but also the way I hit and rebound from the drums. The sound id "pulled" out of the drum, so the approach is very important

Thanks, and I hope you enjoy "H,G&F"!

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By the way, how do you tune your bassdrum? It sounds really good! (on the H,G and F dvd)
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Hi Pat,

Enjoying H.G&F very much. A quick question. Right now I have only been working with the 5 warm-up exercises and making some progress. Would you suggest mastering those warm-ups prior to moving on or do you think I should only spend a certain amount of time on the warm-ups each time I open the book and then move on? How would you advise working with the book?

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Old 03-31-2008, 01:06 PM
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By the way, how do you tune your bassdrum? It sounds really good! (on the H,G and F dvd)
D;

The Bass Drum is tuned fairly loose, just a couple of turns above the wrinkle spot, with Remo Mufflers inside, touching each head.

The head on this was an Aquarian SuperKik, but, since Remo has come out with the PowerSonic, that's what I use and endorse.

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Enjoying H.G&F very much. A quick question. Right now I have only been working with the 5 warm-up exercises and making some progress. Would you suggest mastering those warm-ups prior to moving on or do you think I should only spend a certain amount of time on the warm-ups each time I open the book and then move on? How would you advise working with the book?

Thanks again,

Pete
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I did a series of excerpts in Modern Drummer (with more to come), on this very subject, that "H,G, & F" in concept was designed to work on all three of these important elements SIMULTANEOUSLY. So, do the hand warm up section, then do some diddle combos in the rudiment section, and do a couple RC grooves, a couple "Essential Ghost Grooves", and start doing a couple "Rhythmic Inspiration" or split 16th fill ideas.

You don't have to "master" each section to move on. Do a couple things at the same tiime to improve your overall game!

Thanks for enjoying "H, G & F"!
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:30 PM
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Thanks Pat I appreciate the follow up. By the way I am having a ball with the play alongs. I notice that they all count you in with 4 beeps but when I listen to some of them I have trouble with the count? Are all the play alongs in 4/4 and is it just the accents / kicks etc throwing me off?

The p4 is great too.

Will you be in the Boston area anytime soon?

Thanks again,

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Old 04-04-2008, 02:48 AM
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Pete

They all should be "on the one" for a start, so, maybe your player is not picking up the first click??

Also, here's some bootleg video from the UK Tour.

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Old 04-05-2008, 03:31 PM
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First let me say thank you for getting back to me. I am aware that your time is very valuable with family and business commitments. It's nice to know there are professionals like yourself out there who really care.

Now to get back to the book...Where was I? oh yeah RLLR LRRL

Thanks for the video link will check them out after practice.

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Old 04-07-2008, 02:17 AM
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Cool..Let me know how you progress!

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Old 04-19-2008, 02:53 AM
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Hey Everyone

Just a quick note that there are FREE download video clips, pdf charts and hand exercises from "hands, Grooves, & Fills" up at the Hudson Music site in the Woodshed section!

www.hudsonmusic.com

If you like it, you can order it on line!

Thanks again, and enjoy!

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Old 04-24-2008, 07:59 PM
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hey there pat.

really loving the 5-5-3 exercise. i've found yet another way to practice it. i use it to practice my rolls now so that it becomes 9 - 9 - 5. it's really cool because the ground work has been laid in the singles and i am practicing my rolls starting with either hand.

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Old 04-25-2008, 01:45 AM
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Hey Jason

AWESOME...You LOVE that exercise, don't you ! :)

Go to the Rudiment TAB Section, roll and drag combos, and there are great roll combinations there as well to work thru

I will be back out there JUNE 1 - 9, can we do a day of lessons/classes at your studio?
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I now always start my warm ups with the "Diddle Combo" and love the simplicity and endurance building of the "Roll in Rhythm" which I've adapted slightly, adding an extra double to the end of the 17 (making it a 19 I guess) allowing me to swop the leading hand. For some strange reason I find the six stroke roll very difficult leading with my right hand but not with my left. I would have thought it would be the other way round being right handed. One question Pat. Is it natural to experience difficulty getting up to speed on some rudiments and not on others? I can burn up the fives, sevens, drag taps etc but remain sluggish on paradiddles and anything with a flam in it.

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Old 05-08-2008, 03:19 AM
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Hi! Yes, it is normal for some things to come easier than others. In regards to the sluggishness on diddles and flams, both of those rudiments require that you a have soft and low diddles, or in the case of flams, the grace note. That will come by relaxing those notes and "dropping" them in softly and smoothly. It's basically a phrasing issue. Be sure to watch the DVD on the execution of diddles, the "whip/drop" motion..(aka...YIKES ! ...Moeller) This should help the flams.

Keep me posted...

PS..I will be back in the UK June 1-8..I will post the locations, maybe we can do lessons..

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Old 05-10-2008, 06:32 AM
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Hi Pat!! It's so great to be able to talk to you! I have been using your book and DVD for the past 4 months or so.. and it has helped me improve my drumming more than anything else :) If I had the chance I would go to one of your clinics, but I live in New Zealand -When are you coming here?!!

Anyway, a question about double strokes: you mention in the book that you don't 'pull' the second stroke, but the way my teacher has taught me is to use a 'push-pull' technique i.e. using the fingers to pull the stick towards the palm to create the second stroke. However I find that this way of doing doubles really strains the tendons on the back of my hand. So could you please explain to me in more detail how to do a proper double stroke roll? Thanks.

Btw I have never seen a drummer who can groove like you do on the DVD.. the musical performances are awesome! You're the best :)

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Old 05-10-2008, 06:34 AM
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Also when are you going to release another instructional book? I can't wait for more material from you because I find your teaching style on the DVD very comprehensive, easy-to-follow etc
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:01 AM
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Hi Pat!! It's so great to be able to talk to you! I have been using your book and DVD for the past 4 months or so.. and it has helped me improve my drumming more than anything else :) If I had the chance I would go to one of your clinics, but I live in New Zealand -When are you coming here?!!

Anyway, a question about double strokes: you mention in the book that you don't 'pull' the second stroke, but the way my teacher has taught me is to use a 'push-pull' technique i.e. using the fingers to pull the stick towards the palm to create the second stroke. However I find that this way of doing doubles really strains the tendons on the back of my hand. So could you please explain to me in more detail how to do a proper double stroke roll? Thanks.

Btw I have never seen a drummer who can groove like you do on the DVD.. the musical performances are awesome! You're the best :)

Reuven
I used to be the same way!!

Now that I take lessons with Pat, my technique has taken a complete 180. My hands and forearms no longer hurt and I have more control of the stick.

I'll let Pat answer with his 'expertise' but in learning how to play rudiments and get that "FLOW" goin with the hands, you don't use any fingers or force a second note with your hands.. Think of dribbling a basketball. You use your hands and forearms to create that "undulating" motion.. Almost like a wave.

Now put the sticks in your hands, play on the pad, and keep that dribbling motion going. The natural rebound of the stick will create the upstroke. Now keep your hands down for a split second and that second bounce will come by itself! Sorry if my explanation isn't clear, certainly in person it would make sense! :-)
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