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Old 12-31-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default So.. I need some help with bass drum heads

I'm looking for new bass drum heads. I've recently decided to completely jump ship from the bass drum sound I was going for. Loud, boomy, deep. I ran an emad with an unported head. It worked well, but I always ran into trouble recording.

The sound I'm now going for is a nice dry "airy" sound with a nice sharp punch, something that really hits you in the chest... with a little bit of boom/warmth on the initial attack. I tried tweaking the emad, but the punch always had a round, wet feel to it not very dry or sharp at all.

I'd like to stay away from additional muffling besides what's on the head (aka emad/sk/regulator), but this might not be possible

Any head suggestions? I'm currently using a clear PS3 batter and an ebony ps3 (however it's been modified with a thin foam strip and one of those port reinforcement rings, I think they deaden the reso a ton, but it came with my kit second hand) but it leaves a lot to be desired. Thus far the closest I've come is a slightly towel muffled Fiberskyn PS3 (I'm not sure which weight) with the modified PS3 reso. This combo had a nice dry punch.. however it really was missing the "hit you in the chest" feel and didn't really have any body behind it. I was tossing around the idea of a coated batter and maybe an aquarian regulator maybe even one of those evans EQ pillows.. any help would be appreciated
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:09 AM
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...what kind of bass drum are you using?

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Old 12-31-2007, 02:14 PM
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...what kind of bass drum are you using?

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And what size?

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Old 01-01-2008, 04:25 AM
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Old 01-01-2008, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: So.. I need some help with bass drum heads

I use an sk2 or sk1 with a regualator on the front (22x18)
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I'll second the SK1 with a regulator on the front, the SK2 for me is a little too dead.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: So.. I need some help with bass drum heads

did you try with remo's powerstroke4? those are rather great heads for bass drums to my ear... and you can pretty much use them unmuffled...or almost.

the sound that you describe i think is pretty probable with a powerstroke3 or pinstripe, but the main things you should work on i think are muffling techniques...

for a sharper attack, i'd suggest using some kind of a kick pad (danmar-style).
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:32 PM
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did you try with remo's powerstroke4? those are rather great heads for bass drums to my ear... and you can pretty much use them unmuffled...or almost.

the sound that you describe i think is pretty probable with a powerstroke3 or pinstripe, but the main things you should work on i think are muffling techniques...

for a sharper attack, i'd suggest using some kind of a kick pad (danmar-style).
I don't think he want's a real "bommy" sound, but more dark. I think something cheap might do the thing for that, as cheap bass drum head's I find aren't real boomy. If you do want what I think is the head to make your bass drum sound real low and punchy, nice boom, is the aquarian super kick 1, with a patch!
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:52 PM
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Actually the main ingredient to the punch is the patch.
Yup, keeping the ps4 unmuffled...that wasn't relevant to the topic, just a side-mention :D
The main idea is I personally got that kind of a sound with the Remo PS4 on a Sonor Force kit. I don't think it's that hard on a Yamaha Maple Custom!
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: So.. I need some help with bass drum heads

Thanks for the advice everyone!

I think I'm going to try the superkick/regulator combo.. but I'm not sure which one to try.

Has anyone here used a coated SK1? what did you think?

I was thinking the SK2 would be too focused/plasticy.. and the SK1 might be a little too open
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Thanks for the advice everyone!

I think I'm going to try the superkick/regulator combo.. but I'm not sure which one to try.

Has anyone here used a coated SK1? what did you think?

I was thinking the SK2 would be too focused/plasticy.. and the SK1 might be a little too open
After reading all the hype about the SKII, I put one on my 22x18 yamaha maple custom absolute kick. It sounded bad, plasticy and "boingy". I have been playing a loooong time and normally get a great kick drum sound both acoustically and miked up. I had used a PS3 with a small blanket lightly touching both heads and a Yamaha PS3 logo head on the front with a 4" hole cut in it at the 4:00 position. It sounded great, but I was trying to get away with using no muffling at all. Taking the blanket out of the above mentioned combo was a little too boomy for miking purposes. I tried an EMAD with the larger muffling ring on the kit with the same front head combo. It sounds great, acoustically and miked up, and sound guys seem to love it. I also use a falams patch where the beater (the plastic side of a dw9000 pedal) hits the head. Food for thought.....
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