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Old 11-09-2005, 05:38 PM
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I have recently bought "Advanced Funk Studies" by Rick Latham, the 25th anniversary DVD. It is very inspirational and It has a lot on rudimental application. I suggest getting the book for it too, to use as reference. It is for all skill levels.
Beginner to advanced.
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:42 AM
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Tim Alexander live performance and commentary...

This dvd is very cool for Primus/Laundry and Alexander fans.

It is unusual, in that during the performance, you hear no music at all, but he just plays the drum parts to a lot of his music.

There is an audio commentary track that is of some value. I am at a point where I can sort out what he is doing. But: I must warn potential buyers: this really is not a very good educational dvd. It has no step-by-step instruction, and there are only generic explanations of what he is doing. There are no "slow-mo" parts either.

What he does is lay down some very cool grooves and powerful kick work. He showcases himself well as one of the most underrated, and yet powerfully influential drummers out there. He has a very well defined, and deep kick drum sound. I like his octoban fills as well. He does a good job of incorporating Afro-Cuban and funk flavored bits. It's almost like you'd classify Tim as a "Prog-funkster." And he gives the nod to Neil Peart as well in the commentary track.

So really, it's watching a guy play just his drum parts for about 45 minutes. It's $24.95 at www.timalexander.com.

Bottom line: I like it because it isolates his drumming, but it's not what I had expected. It is also not for beginner, or most intermediate level drummers. Tim Alexander fans will really enjoy it. I sure do. But I would like to see a full-blown instructional dvd in the future. Tim obviously has a wealth of knowledge and a host of chops that could be given better elaboration for a wider audience.

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Old 11-25-2005, 07:48 PM
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I don't own many music videos so I'm afraid I lack reference to judge, but let's try.

NAME: Dennis Chambers: Serious Moves


STAR RATING: # # #


WORDED RATING: Average. Everytime I look at this video I remind of guitarists who complain at videos of guys like Malmsteen, who just show off, and don't sound interested on teaching anything.


TARGET AUDIENCE: Everybody who wants to get really frustrated or likes LONG Drumsolos. Seriously: VERY far advanced drummers who need to get some new ideas or everybody else who wants to see "how its done". (Yes I copied this from another review below, it fits so much)

PUBLISHED BY: DCI


DESCRIPTION: It's mostly Dennis showing off. Then after each song they show the bass/drum groove slower, then he's interviewed, and he's asked to make some interesting things he makes on each song. I didn't BECOME Dennis Chambers after watching this video, but I just got a few ideas.

The songs are too much long, so it's like too much information for you to get at once. If I really had to learn something, the songs would be less than 1 minute each, since they're very complex, and I can absorb all the information. They should know that this is an INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO. This is, by the way, the same comment I want to make on Marco Minemann's Extreme Drumming DVD. I feel like skipping the songs parts of these videos because I really learn nothing watching them. It's just stuff for you to drool on. I want to learn soemthing, so I go straight to the explanation.

Plus, Marco Minemanns' songs are lame. They're mostly: 1 bar of groove, then Marco solos for 1 minute, 1 bar of groove, another drum solo, 1 bar of groove and so on.
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:21 PM
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hi i've been looking at your posts and was wandering if you had any advice for someone at grade 4/5 standard bored of rockschool. I am hoping to improve my rudiments but I also want to have fun with funk and jazz. Any suggestions?

1.GEORGE LAWERENCE STONES STICK CONTROL

2.JIM CHAPIN MODERN DRUMMER( HIS BOOK ON INDEPENDENCE) BE BOP JAZZ

3.RICK LATHAM ADVANCED FUNK STUDIES.

I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING THROUGH THEM IN THAT ORDER.IT WILL CHANGE YOUR DRUMMING IN THE FIRST MONTH.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:55 PM
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should i get Thomas Langs greative control or Neil Pearts Anotomy of a drum solo?
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:08 PM
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should i get Thomas Langs greative control or Neil Pearts Anotomy of a drum solo?
Those are two entirely different things. I have ordered Neil's dvd, but it's content promises to center on his drum solos only.

Thomas Lang's awesome dvd covers a wealth of subjects. IMO, it's invaluable.

They are apples and oranges.
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:19 AM
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Gregg Bissonette
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WORDED RATING:
Great instruction in a ton of styles, some awesome tracks of Gregg playing, and a fun sort of loose and human vibe to the whole thing
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Mostly intermediate, some pretty advanced topics though
PUBLISHED BY:
Hudson Music, double disk
DESCRIPTION:
Gregg is a fantastic educator throughout the video and makes the learning process smooth and fun. He covers areas such as rock, funk, fusion, bop/big band, latin, and afro-cuban in a very informative and detailed manner specific to that individual style. Another great part of the DVD si that he goes past just drumming and delves into the music industry and the modern studio scene. I could have used a tad-bit more on the instruction for the afro-cuban, but other than that, I was never confused or having to rewind over and over to catch a lick. Hey, its where I learned the blushda. A great DVD all-in-all; Id reccomend it to any drummer.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:15 AM
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Ed Thigpen: The Essence of Brushes
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Relatively basic brush techniques
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Mostly beginner, some intermediate
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Relatively basic intro to brushes by one of the greatest brush players of all time. Instruction and examples are good, but video is short (60min), and only brushes the surface (pun intended). Thigpen repeatedly refers to his book for more detail, and refers to this DVD as volume one. He covers a couple basic patterns in 4/4 and one in 3/4, plus 2 simple accents. If you want to see a couple intimate performances by a great brush player or have no clue how to use brushes, this would be a great aid. If you're already proficient but wanting to improve, you won't get too much out of this. Maybe consider the book instead.
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Old 12-26-2005, 11:57 AM
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2 people have already done a review on creative control but ill do a quick one aswell. I just got this DVD and its great. Also this is my first drum DVD so my rating may differ from players.

NAME: Thomas Lang: Creative Control

STAR RATING: I give it #### - #####

WORDED RATING: Very well done, interesting topics, strick said that there r alot of thing that rnt any use to 90% of all drummers. I think not. But the DVD does definently lean towards dbl pedal stuff, i have just done some of the exercises on my hihat instead. I can feel my left foot being alot stronger, faster and more comfortable, like i can just use it at more places while playing now. But it is still very iseful to players that dont use dbl pedal, for sure. I think that players that use single pedals will like it and will get alot out of it, but for youse dbl pedal players, woa ud better get this, i see this as a great DVD for those using a dbl kick.

TARGET AUDIENCE: Sticktrick said that it was mainly for advanced players. No its not. But hes damb rite bout the solos. Everyone already knows how good he is...but then for the people that dont they will find out on this DVD. But im not an advanced player, ive been playing for 3 years, so im intermeidate, but i still got alot our of it. I think begginer to advanced really. Because the first disc is good for people who have even just started. He demonstrates some, wait, LOTS of exercises to do to improve hand feet co-ordintaion, which is very important. Most of the first disc is just one singles and doubless, for Gods sake! Thats tons to practise!

Published by: Hudson Music

Ive pretty much already described it so ill just say that there is a really good chapter on sticktricks and showmanship, which like stricktrick said is really great. He breaks them down so you can learn them. But wats great in this chapter i think is that when he demonstrates a trick he tells and shows where some good times to use it. Like theres som tricks he shows that he say mainly use on the hihat and he plays you a demo of how to 'FIT IT INTO YOUR PLAYING". Which is great! Cause its all great to be able to do these tricks but if you cant fit them into playing then wats the point!? I hav trouble fitting stick tricks into my playing. I have no idea when to do them, so i dont do them, also i cant do stick tricks. Although i can sort of do the Blackwell twirl good, thanks 4 that NJ.

But with the songs i quite like the songs, i must admit tho sum i didnt like and also i thought that he would play different styles. But i do like that first song 'Dog'. Great drumming in that, altho the lyrics r little kids singing (only in the chorus tho.) But another great feature is that littlew icon that cums up, u just press play or enter on ur remote and it goes to a sort of side clip for xtra info on wat hes talking bout.

I thinks its a gr8 DVD.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:44 PM
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DAVE WECKL - THE NEXT STEP
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a great dvd that meets most serious drummers with a challenge and a path to greater things.
TARGET AUDIENCE:
intermediate to advanced
PUBLISHED BY:
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Many of us will be at that level now where we are very good at the obvious stuff but somehow, watching DW videos we seem to be missing that extra bit that seperates us from the legendary drummers. this dvd goes a long way to adressing the gap. dave takes you through the minefeild of beat displacement, odd time, band hits, hand/foot coordination and using a click effectively ...to name just a few of the gems. his calm friendly approach soften the blow that comes when you see this monster of a drummer grooving and soloing...at some points in the dvd i found myself thinking: 'hey i can do thaaat!' but what i found is that i can almost do the stuff on the dvd...which is what i look for in the dvds i buy - possible but not already achieved lessons. dave adresses the drummer who is ready to go pro...he really does give you the next step. if he ever reads this review...thanks dave.

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OK, so I've gotten 4 books in the past month and I shall do a quick review of them for your viewing pleasure. I should add that my favorite part about every single one of these books is that they can be used for beginners to advanced drummers.

Reed's Syncopation. Really do I need to review this? You all have it and it has 1001 uses. I haven't got around to working out of it that much yet, but it can be used to work on absolutely any aspect of your drumming.

Don Famularo: It's your move. Don ****in' Famularo!!! What a friggin genius. Totally solved most of my technique problems, taught me moeller, etc....This is a great book for technique and it also has a lot of great concepts for creativity on the drumset and stuff. Highly reccomended.

Jon Riley: The Art of Bop. They should have titled this book "How to Play Jazz", because that's what it is. And that's what I was looking for. Teaches you how to comp, solo, use brushes, play odd times, and much more. It works on more musicality than chops. I already consider myself a pretty good jazz drummer, but this book is pushing me up to the next level.

Tommy Igoe: Groove Essentials (book and playalong). The definitive playalong book. Has charts and songs and commentary on each one for many different kinds of music. Teaches you grooves for different styles (almost all of which I already know, but who cares, the playalong is the best part). Then you get to play along with a REAL band, not just some electric crap like turn it up and lay it down. I'm having so much fun with the book. And the hidden gem of this book is how much it helps your chart reading.

I'm really happy with all the books, which I knew I would be because I don't just buy things on a whim, I research them . But each of these books is helping me a lot with my playing, and I would reccomend all of them. Feel free to ask any question..

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Good DVD to learn about the importance of groove, but very narrowly focused.

TARGET AUDIENCE:
Kids who want to get funkay - fans of Primus?

PUBLISHED BY:
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In his debut DVD, Brian goes over some very important concepts such as grooving in a couple different feels, upstroke/downstroke technique, some roll exercises, and some brazilian ostinato patterns and how to get your hands coordinated with them.

Agreed, these are very important concepts. However, it just didn't click for me. The DVD distracts you from the lack of real straight-forward content with various antics and long drawn-out speeches by Brian. I seriously fell asleep half way through this DVD.

It also surprised me, and I hate to say it, but Brian is a very good example of a drummer who has a superior command of feel and groove, but probably plays the networking and the "its who you know" game very well. I was watching some of his clinic/solo clips and thought they were garbage, I honestly don't see what about his skill set sets him apart from a lot of lesser known drummers that I've seen. So I have to deduce that he's an awesome guy and has gotten in good with people in the various bands he's played in. I actually bought a Tim Alexander DVD when I bought this, and thought THAT was going to suck, but I found this far less stimulating that I had anticipated it to be.

For young drummers who need a nice jump start into the game, this DVD will work very well becaue it will start them understanding the importance of having good time and feel, the importance of stroke types, and various other concepts. However, I hope they will be able to pay attention through the endless garage speeches, because I barely did. As I said, though, the DVD is kind of fun to watch at times so maybe that will hold the young attention spans.

If I could take this DVD back to the store, I would. I'll probably sell this thing on eBay. Sorry to be a downer.
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Old 01-11-2006, 04:13 AM
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just wondering if any of the instructional video's out there are any good? if so, anyone have any suggestions?
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I really enjoyed Billy Ward's latest.
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Old 01-11-2006, 10:05 AM
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I would say: it all depends on you and not on the DVD.

On every DVD there are so many big and little things you can work on to improve your drumming. But just watching of course is not enough - some work needed.

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Old 01-20-2006, 02:11 PM
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Shame on all you brits for not mentioning this one sooner...

NAME:
The Art Of The Drummer - John Savage (Book with CD) (Spiral Bound)

STAR RATING:
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WORDED RATING:
The best single drumset (general not specialist) book I've come across. Covers the basics very very well.

TARGET AUDIENCE:
Beginners although some intermediate/advanced players may find it worthwhile if they feel there might be any holes in there playing. I cannot recommend it enough for beginners though.

PUBLISHED BY:
John Savage's Music Books

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I bought this book (after it had been recommended to me by a few local drummers) and have not looked back - it has almost single handedly made me the drummer I am today (whether thats a good thing or not I wouldn't be confident enough to say), I do own quite a few books and DVD's which have all helped me a lot in fairness but as one single book, at least to start off with, this is absolutely the way forward.
It takes the beginner right from square one and introduces drum score from the off (a good thing I say) in a very simple and user friendly manner, I'm fortunate in that I could already read a little music already when I started (18 months ago) as I play a couple of other intruments but I'd recommend this even to the complete layman. Of course the CD helps loads too.
It's broken down into lessons (in the order as the author says he would teach them in a private lesson scenario), here being a very brief overview...

Basic Beats/Rhythms
Snare exercises
Fills using semiquavers
Rock
Swung Rock
Triplets
Jazz Rhythms
Accents
Strengthening the left hand
Rudiments (various rolls, paradiddles, flams etc - plenty here)
Various Time Signatures
Brush Rhythms
Latin American Rhythms
Advanced Rock
Expression markings in music
Tuning
Soloing

I really have only touched on the contents of this book and picked just a few salient points - as a quick look at the index will prove.
It really does seem to cover everything you'd need to touch on in your first year (or years) playing. I have done a lot of research into my drumming, with having had very few lessons and having to rely on myself/books/dvds/web to learn and there is nothing I have come across that isn't already covered in the material.
If you are in your first few months of drumming you SHOULD have this in your collection and be actively working from it IMO, if not I'd recommend you at least give it the time of day and check it out. And when you do and you think bloody hell that lowender's a good lad this is a great book... mine's a pint of the black stuff ;)
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Old 01-23-2006, 06:00 AM
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Thanks Lowender, that sounds like the book for me.


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Old 01-23-2006, 10:40 AM
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Has anyone ever tried either Drumming for Dummies or "An Idiots guide to: Drumming"?

Both come with a CD.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:02 AM
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Lowender, does that book come with a dvd or just an audio cd?
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Title: Pure Energy (Tony Royster Jr.)

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Target Audience: Anyone into superfast chops, and R&B/Gospel style drumming.

Description: This is a great video to watch for entertainment purposes. There are several pieces with his band, a duet section w/ Nisan Stewart. There is a really cool slide show of his trip to the DW shop, and some pretty good exercises. It's not a very in depth learning video, but if you are a good self-taught drummer, you'll probably be able to pull some good ideas out of this. Other than that, it showcases his inhuman speed and agility on a huge drum-set.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:05 PM
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To answer...

The book comes with a CD - but there is an older one that doesn't so make sure (if you want the CD version of course) that it is the CD version if you order it. I know they definitely stock it on Musicroom.com.

The log out thing - dunno mate but after a period of inactivity I (and I expect everyone else) gets pushed off.
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Old 01-26-2006, 09:13 PM
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Has anyone got an instructional DVD by Mike Portnoy? I think the guys a legend, he might not have that much technique but the mans timing and knowledge of progressive drumming is awesome. I sneakily downloaded a few clips of random instructional DVDs but they range in years, like one where he looks really young and hes talking about double bass technique, then theres another where he looks a bit older, and hes going through all Dream Theatre songs and i found a video from a clinic but its just like a massive solo, so i'm not sure what im looking for.
So does anyone actually have one and can they let me know what they think.

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Nothing too fancy here, but I keep getting back to this book.

TARGET AUDIENCE:
Rock/Funk - Content may suit every level

PUBLISHED BY:
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Not an how-to book. It is a plain and simple collection of about 200 grooves, each with an associated 4 bars fill. Anyone is likely to meet some challenge – depending upon the tempo that you’ll choose for each beat, and the level of “funkyness” you want to achieve.

Includes a well-done CD, which where all the patterns are played by the author, in a very groovy style.
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does anyone know how neil pearts anotomy of a drum solo is?
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:26 PM
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I am just wondering what you guys think of the Larry Finn "Accelerate your Drumming". Is it worth picking up. I have played drums for a number of years and I mainly play rock. I just want to diversify my playing. IN general put in some better fills and make beats that are little more intresting. Will this book help me out.

I took lessons for a number of years. But for the last four years I have not had a lesson and I wanna start learning again but more on my own.

Any other books that would be good. I'm not the best reader but I can read fine. I thought this one might be a good choice since it has a DVD and book. So I can slowly build up my reading skills.

Thank you for reading

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Shame on all you brits for not mentioning this one sooner...

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The Art Of The Drummer - John Savage (Book with CD) (Spiral Bound)

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WORDED RATING:
The best single drumset (general not specialist) book I've come across. Covers the basics very very well.

I've searched for a little while for this book, but I am only coming up with UK shops that charge a lot to ship to the United States... Does anyone know where I can buy it in the US?

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Old 02-22-2006, 06:51 PM
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This is a must-have for double bass players. i've just started playing double bass and this is the best material i've seen. slightly dated but very applicable.
TARGET AUDIENCE:
any beginner to intermediate double bass drummer out there.
PUBLISHED BY:
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okay, once you look past the funny facial expressions he pulls while drumming, the weird sound of his drums (1984 tuning!) and his slight speech impediment you find joe franco to be an amazing drum teacher. he is quick to the point and his explanations are excellent. he really gets you to understand what 8ths, 16ths and syncopation are and how they launch off the bass as an instrument. his way of showing how the exercises (and there are loads of them here) and talking you through them is unsurpassed. of course a lot of the d/bass material here is now a little dated but it is an excellent starting point into todays demands. he gives you lots of beats with tab and, while they belong to 80s metal riffs, they do strengthen your technique so you can play the stuff of the day. Studying him now is like a 70s rock drummer studying a jazz drummer from the 50s. There is so much there that can be customised once the skills have been aquired. he's not a show off...but a down to earth teacher with a lot to give. i hope to meet him one day.

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Old 02-25-2006, 02:06 AM
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2 people have already done a review on creative control but ill do a quick one aswell. I just got this DVD and its great. Also this is my first drum DVD so my rating may differ from players.

I get your points and they do make sense to me since you said that you are a beginner. I am a pro (which doesn´t mean that I´m any good - it just means that I earn my rent and and fill my fridge by playing drums...) therefore it is a bit hard for me, to judge, if a beginner benefits from the DVD or not.


Now here´s what I actually CAN say about it:
I gave it to many of my students and all of them loved it, even the beginners. BUT: NO SINGLE ONE OF THEM really gained something out of it other than a motivation to practise, because they saw great Thomas playing all that crazy stuff.... Some tried to do the exercises and left them soon after, because the stuff was way to hard and - if you only focus on proper execution - boring. Coordination exercises only start becoming fun, once you´ve mastered them and can put them on the drums or better in music. For beginners (and I am now talking about beginners, who don´t know how to hold their sticks yet and are maybe 8 to 14 years old) this is just not it. period. These students need simple grooves, fills and play alongs that are fun and doable for them. If I´d show them some dbl bass examples from the DVD I´d just scare them away. Playing along with Queen or Micheal Jackson tunes is for beginners - they love it because they can do it and feel the music. Practising paradiddles with your feet while playing Flamaccents with your hands over it is NOT for beginners. Just imagine what a student (who doesn´t really have any clue about the drumming world yet) would look like, if you´d tell him: "OK, you did very well on "We will rock you", so lets just move on to some MultiPedalOrchestrations and 5 over 7 things on two HiHats!". You see?? These exercises are great - but they were not designed for beginners. Give them a foundation first - proper tech, rudiments, a Groove toolbox, some good fills. THEN show them, what to do with that stuff and where to put it. For this, the DVD is perfect - but such a student is no longer a true beginner.

Check out Thomas other DVDs - It is much easier to gain something out of them IMHO.

But as I said - I get your point and I guess that many people think about the DVD just like you do. Of course Thomas is great - he is in fact one of the best out there. His approach is very dogmatic and therefore easy to understand - he is just a great teacher. Thats also why I left the rating open - of course its a great DVD and great exercises. No doubt about it.

And I still stick to my point about the wasted time for the twineffect, long solos and MPOs - who the hell has got two or three pedals on each side of the drumset??? Actually I have, but only on my practise set to challenge myself. Live I´d never use that, it is simply to much stuff to carry, hehe.

[edit:] BTW - feels good to be back on the forum again...

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Old 03-01-2006, 02:14 AM
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Does anyone know anything about this upcoming Morgan Agren DVD?
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:25 PM
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Instead of rehashing the same format for the vids already covered, I'll comment on some that I own or have rented. I'd also like to say that it really depends on what you are looking for in a dvd. Instructional? If so, what kind of learner? Do you like to watch and copy, or read notes and dive into theory? Not every dvd can appease all people.

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Tommy Igoe Groove Essentials -- great sounding drums, great layout with the different patterns, but very limited to new drummers and drummers looking for a quick beat in a genre they normally don't play. The most disappointing part of this video is the cool little things that Tommy plays at the end of the samples, but doesn't break down. For the more advanced drummers out there, it would have been nice of him to ellaborate.

I would suggest Groove Essentials to anyone who teaches too.

The production value is above average. The drums sound great, the video quality is good, but there is too much cheezy artistic stuff added for no reason (black and white/aged film look, etc.) I feel this takes away from the professionalism. But the soundtrack is much better than many.
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Steve Smith's History of the US Beat

This is a great "documentary" disk. It isn't for the step-by-step method of learning though. This is best owned by those who appreciate great drumming and great audio tracks. The solo at the beginning is enough to justify the price. Steve Smith could just make a video that says, this is my gear and this is why it sounds so great, and this is me, one of the three greatest drummers alive playing it!

Criticisms are valid. The history from 1984 to present rings something like "After I quit Journey I have been playing this really technical fusiony stuff with my band Vital Information". I'm afraid to count how many times he mentions his band.

Summary; If you like great playing and great sounding gear, get this one. Also, the history is interesting, especially Steve's thesis that everything is derived from the swing pattern. This is the best sounding drum dvd I've heard.

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John Blackwell Jr.

This one suffers from a lower production value than the other Hudson videos. The audio is great, however. The "question and answer" format however, was cheesy. John's drumming is great, but not quite everyone's cup of tea. He is technically very good, with fast feet, good hands, and a strong musical sense behind the kit. His showmanship is obviously a big plus for him. He is a very over the top type of player, and has amazing sounding drums. The writing isn't very good in this one, as the dvd sounds mostly like he's making it up off of a real rough outline the whole time. The transitions from segment to segment don't make sense sometimes. John is a great guy, but some people might find his public speaking skills a bit lacking. He says "uhm" a lot and just never seems confortable speaking.

The extras were kind of lacking but I did like the live performances with the band. And again, his drums and cymbals sound killer.

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Thomas Lang Creative Control -

I think this one is a love/hate type of cd. As for me, I'm leaning towards hate. This guy is ROBODRUMMER from hell. The audio again, is great, but the whole interview outside is just plain cheezy, right down to the dialogue and wardrobe. Also, I have a huge problem with the blatant product placement.. "And here are my Thomas Lang signature series cymbals from Meinl, and of course Sonor Drums are the best and I also play all these sonor pedals", "And these are my giant white drumsticks from Vic Firth" blah blah blah. It would be more believable if his cymbals didn't sound so awful! There are several cheesy pans that focus on brand labels and products too. To the dvd...I really like the way his chapters present one idea (single strokes, double strokes, combos, etc.) but I really dislike how he does one exercize then just busts into a very extreme and difficult pattern. For example, he explains how he gets really fat sounding double strokes, but doesn't show you HOW to do it! Same goes with the feet. This guy has probably the best feet I've ever seen and he uses them in interesting ways. But like the whole dvd, he seems to be doing it just to show you how good he is at it and forgets to teach us how to do it ourselves.

If you like technically insane drummers who use very interesting and unique concepts (5 hihats!) then this might be for you. Otherwise, you can be like me and just rationalize your inability to play that crazy complex stuff by playing a simple fat groove.

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Steve Gadd: American Drummers Achievement Awards

This is NOT an instructional dvd. The playing on the cd is really good. It seems like the top notch musicians where all flown in and had one rehearsal session to try and get it down. After a lot of boring self-praising speeches about Armand Zildjian and Steve himself, you get to see some really cool "tribute" performances. Old pal James Taylor has a nice set, Tom Scott leads an interesting ensemble (Vinne Coliauta on "Nite Sprite" is really good). Then you get to see Steve himself play with Scott and the guys. I wish this dvd had a section just of the performances. Bill Cosby is really funny at times, but not funny enough for a 3 hour and 5 minute long dvd that has maybe an hour of music on it. The best part of this dvd is in the extras where you get to see the rehearsals.

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Carter Beauford Under the Table and Drumming

I like CB a lot. If you don't know anything about him and his style this is a really interesting dvd for open hand playing. Otherwise there really isn't much new here (if you are a fan). Carter has a hard time "explaining" the licks he plays, but he plays them for you very well. Also, the little booklet has all the notes, which I found helpful. Again, I think this dvd suffers from too much filler and not enough playing. When he does play, they go into long sections of him just playing along to a track. Instead of hearing the entire songs, I would have rather seen him break down individually trickier sections. He really struggled explaining his cymbal crossover moves...he tries to verbalize it then just kinda says screw it and rips off a huge cymbal crossover pattern. This dvd is a real eye opener though for those who have never seen the huge kit he plays and how he applies the left hand lead/open hand playing style.

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That's all I can think of at the moment. When I get the rest of my stuff here, I might remember some I've forgotten. Also, I have Ed Soph's dvd on the way!

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Everyone check out the trailer to my new dvd, Shed Sessionz Vol.1 and tell me what you think. It's a different concept in drum videos. I hope you enjoy it!! Here's the link:

www.gospelchops.com/index-4.html
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Everyone check out the trailer to my new dvd, Shed Sessionz Vol.1 and tell me what you think. It's a different concept in drum videos. I hope you enjoy it!! Here's the link:

www.gospelchops.com/index-4.html
Hey bro, maybe it's just me but I can't find the trailer anywhere on that page.
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Yeah, it's there. But I'll post it here:

www.gospelchops.com/shed1.wmv

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hey man. i love gospel chops. nice trailer. all you guys are really talented. let us know when its out and where we can get it.
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Hey, NUTHA JASON!

Thank you man. I appreciate the compliment. The dvd is available now on the website. It can be ordered here:

http://gospelch2.securesites.net/store/index.html

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hey everyone, do you guys buy these books/DVDs on the internet or in music shops or in bookshops or where?
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hey everyone, do you guys buy these books/DVDs on the internet or in music shops or in bookshops or where?
I can't find any in my local music stores, so I buy them on the internet. I suggest buying them on Amazon.com through a link on the artist's page on Drummerworld. I think Drummerworld gets a cut of the price that way.
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Yes indeed, buy your dvds from Bernhard's store. He gets a cut. Nothing that makes him rich, but it helps keep the servers going strong!
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Yes indeed, buy your dvds from Bernhard's store. He gets a cut. Nothing that makes him rich, but it helps keep the servers going strong!

Yes exactly. At the moment the shop sells 15 DVD's a day. This are $ 750 a month.

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