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Old 07-12-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Cocktail Kit Heads!! HELP, ..quick please

Hi all......
a friend of mine...NON drummer ...picked up a cocktail kit (cheap) off of eBay to have in his basement for when freinds come over every other friday, and they all play tunes.....just a fun type thing......anyhow....here is the kit ....

http://cgi.ebay.com/GP-Percussion-Co...QQcmdZViewItem

it's poplar and basswood 9ply ....
8 inch snare
10 tom
15 bass/floor....

WHAT HEADS should I recommend him to get. He's going to get them and I'm going to tune it up for him.

THANKS!!
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:38 PM
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I have one like that....coated ambassadors all top heads. One kick drum side of floor, get the thickest 2 ply head you can find, and tape a wash cloth or something like that to the head. It is the only I have found to get a kick sound that is focused and has attack.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:40 PM
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I have one like that....coated ambassadors all top heads. One kick drum side of floor, get the thickest 2 ply head you can find, and tape a wash cloth or something like that to the head. It is the only I have found to get a kick sound that is focused and has attack.
thanks Greg ......thickest 2 ply ...Acquarian Response II ? Any other suggestions for the kick side?
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:33 PM
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I HAVE THAT DRUM SET. It's a real piece of beauty, too. As far as heads are concerned, I've honestly never changed mine from the stocks, but personally, for a kit like that, I really like single-ply plastic heads on everything, tuned nice and tight. Coated heads are an option, but personally, for a cocktail kit, I prefer just single-ply clear heads.
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I HAVE THAT DRUM SET. It's a real piece of beauty, too. As far as heads are concerned, I've honestly never changed mine from the stocks, but personally, for a kit like that, I really like single-ply plastic heads on everything, tuned nice and tight. Coated heads are an option, but personally, for a cocktail kit, I prefer just single-ply clear heads.
Kenneth, as you know, I have been meaning to get a cocktail kit. I had my heart set on a Yamaha Club Jordan, but I think they're out of my price range these days. What do you think of the GP sets compared to the Yamahas? I've heard the GPs and HBs are basically FEPOS (Far Eastern Piece of Sh!t).

These sets sure are affordable, but what do you think of their function and sound?
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I've heard the GPs and HBs are basically FEPOS (Far Eastern Piece of Sh!t).
Come now DMC, surely you know as well as anyone that there is not a lot of truth in FEPOS.....

But lets not start that debate.......

lol, just yanking your rivets....


I would look into the cocktail kit made by Peace - as far as I know they are American....
And they dont cost a lot.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:53 PM
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STAY ON THE SUBJECT PLEASE GUYS ...........

This is about heads for the kit and the link provided....if you have head recommendations, please do so, ..if not...start another thread. Thanks.........
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:18 PM
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I would just throw some ambassadors on it and dial the "cocktail" drum in with muffling or tape. I even had a Club Jordan kit that I had to mess with for quite a while before I got it where it felt good. Those are tricky drums to tune and you really just have to find where it sounds best to you over a period of time. I read on another forum about folks who build a seperator between the kick and batter heads of the cocktail drum. Another person suggested filling the cocktail drum about 1/3 with styrafoam peanuts. I just used some tape on the bottom to take out some of the resonance.
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STAY ON THE SUBJECT PLEASE GUYS ...........

This is about heads for the kit and the link provided....if you have head recommendations, please do so, ..if not...start another thread. Thanks.........
Lol, sorry mate...


I would use Evans g1's on both sides. A nice open but not to ringy sound from the shallow drums.

On the kick section I would use a Hydralic. I would never use them on toms, but unless you use an extreme muffled head like a hydro you will have big troubles getting it to sound like a bass drum.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:56 PM
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yeah me too id say remo though
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:51 PM
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If you are going to be playing jazz, then you don't need the two ply on the kick...I should have said that before. The head you mentioned would he great.
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Don't cocktail kits have their own special heads, with the floor tom being also the bass drum??
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Cocktail Kit Heads!! HELP, ..quick please

I have been using a Evans Hydro on the bottom head, and it works well, tuning it
down low, and sometimes I have to tweek it with some felt / tape.

Top I like to use a coated or double ply - but it's a tom, not a single drum with those
little snare fans...

Mic'd up ( usually the situation ) - the kick sounds huge, of course the sound guy has a lot to do with it too. Some low end bump, and a bit of compression if they got it in the rack.

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