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Old 06-24-2007, 04:56 AM
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For a great, new interview with Mike Portnoy, check out http://www.musicplayers.com this month!

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Old 06-24-2007, 03:17 PM
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I'm sorry but I just had to laugh...

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Old 08-04-2007, 09:04 AM
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I'm sorry but I just had to laugh...

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lol thank you for that.. the guy should have done a better job matching the sound with the clips though.
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Old 08-14-2007, 03:07 AM
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A very techuiqal drummer its always hard to learn a dream theater song as its hard to remember all the parts..... iv got there new album systematic chaos its great and so is the dvd that comes with it which was filmed and directed by portnoy........ he seems to always have very larg kits which is not a bad thing but he doesnt use all of it i think some of it is for show.......
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Old 08-14-2007, 03:11 AM
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I think a lot of the older-timers and ignerante peepoll on here are just not willing to accept that there might be a new big dawg on da block

change happens....get used to it

Portnoy rules...

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Old 08-20-2007, 04:36 AM
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Hey i was just wondering. Should Transatlantic be one of the "performed with" for Mike?
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:07 PM
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Mike Portnoy is nothing less than an AMAZING drummer! If you think he does too much, too little, whatever the case, his drumming is amazing, and his style and technique goes hand in hand with Dream Theater...
Portnoy is just one of those drummers who really is Liquide, and just flows around the kit.
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:39 AM
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I dont experiment much with music. The tastes of most are weird to me. Are there any other drummers, who can actually play like him? Im talking about the stuff where his feet are playing 3-4 time, and he cymbal crashes on 4-4 time, or where he plays in a 4-4 time while the band plays in a 3-4 or 6-8. His timing is superb if you ask me. And hes a triple threat. Clean, Fast, and Technical. I know Rush has played weird time sigs before, but its like these guys could care less about a time sig. If the words require a 5-8 in the first measure and a 3-4 or 7-8 in the next, so be it.I think its borderline genious. Any one else play like that, if so who?


To me , the band playing in odd times is too much like listening a metranome. I much prefer to hear bands like king krimson's use of odd times along with meshuggah , or tool .
TO me , they are the bands who make the odd times feel like ther not odd at all .
And anyone with theory backround and 5 years of drumming backround should be able to play like he does , and by that i mean like a metranome.

I could easily play in any odd meter , and i know i can make it sound good , but im sure if your musical taste calls for business over texture and finesse im sure you would prefer portnoy.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:30 PM
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http://www.virgildonati.com/sounds/O...trk01-FULL.mp3

This is Virgil Donati with is band On the Virg. It sounds a little like videogame music but you're going to find that when a munch of nerdy musicians come together to write stuff.

Virgil's drumming is probably one of if not the best in the world. He's in and out of time and then back again to be right on the beat...all I'll say is listen.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:57 AM
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when you listen too much to any drummer, you start to sound a little like him, but you can tell from miles and miles away if a drummer's a fan a portnoy.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:20 AM
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Hey i was just wondering. Should Transatlantic be one of the "performed with" for Mike?
I...vote...yes......
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:05 AM
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I read all the titles and found nothing on him so here goes.

I love his technique. I used to listen to all the "normal" stuff till I heard him. And it seems all I want to listen to is Dream Theater now. I have played for awhile, and most drummers have certain niches, or habits. Once you figure out what they are doing you can play it. I usually can play a song the 2nd or 3rd time I hear it, But his stuff takes weeks, months on some of it, just to figure out the numbers behind what he is doing.What drives me crazy is most people( non-players) look at me like Im crazy when I start to try to explain what he is doing. They are like, man he screwed that up, and Im like, No he just dropped a beat, He'll pick it up in a minute.His drumming has texture, all the normal stuff is boring now. Can anyone tell me of a comparable band, with all the technicality of DT?What do you guys think of Mike? Sorry if this is a repost.

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Mike_Portnoy.html

If any of what he's playing takes you months you should invest in a music theory book and learn the basics of time signature , cause mike seems to enjoy pretending he's a metranome.
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:28 AM
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If any of what he's playing takes you months you should invest in a music theory book and learn the basics of time signature , cause mike seems to enjoy pretending he's a metranome.
Well you are obviously an expert on Mike Portnoy and his playing, can you post a video of yourself playing The Dance Of Eternity? Or maybe Take The Time?
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:57 AM
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Well you are obviously an expert on Mike Portnoy and his playing, can you post a video of yourself playing The Dance Of Eternity? Or maybe Take The Time?
yes i can. However i wont, its not that difficult of a song. Regardless of my feelings on his playing my post was not made to tell anyone that i think portnoy is a waste or anything of the sort. Basic theory and 5 years of chops should make you more than able to playing his songs. NO SONG PERIOD SHOULD TAKE YOU MONTHS TO LEARN.

If you want to play something challenging try something that wont make you sound like a metranome. I recomend tool, meshuggah , and porcupine tree if your looking to be challenged.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:17 AM
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Basic theory and 5 years of chops should make you more than able to playing his songs. NO SONG PERIOD SHOULD TAKE YOU MONTHS TO LEARN.
This is subjective to the players level...why shouldn't a song take months to learn? There are some really hard ones (not just DT), and then it takes even longer to get it grooving, no matter what style.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:31 AM
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This is subjective to the players level...why shouldn't a song take months to learn? There are some really hard ones (not just DT), and then it takes even longer to get it grooving, no matter what style.


I am not a gifted or naturally talented drummer .. and i know what it means to work in order to learn and sound good. NO song has ever taken me more than a week to learn. Practicing always makes it sound better over time , but i have never had to stuggle that long. Granted this wont apply to a player thats played for a year or 2 .. This comment wasnt replying to a young player.

I dont mean this to sound mean .. Theory .. learn how to count . To me thats all it takes if you have experiance at your craft..
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:28 PM
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I am not a gifted or naturally talented drummer .. and i know what it means to work in order to learn and sound good. NO song has ever taken me more than a week to learn. Practicing always makes it sound better over time , but i have never had to stuggle that long. Granted this wont apply to a player thats played for a year or 2 .. This comment wasnt replying to a young player.

I dont mean this to sound mean .. Theory .. learn how to count . To me thats all it takes if you have experiance at your craft..


Sorry, but i smell no small amount of b/s. Of course, it's subjective as to what a person thinks 'learning' a song or drum part involves. Regardless of what people think about his technique, Portnoy comes up with some of the most intricate and well honed drum parts in the business. If you find Dream Theater songs easy and quick to learn (as Portnoy plays them) then you should certainly see yourself as a naturally talented drummer.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:20 PM
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Sorry, but i smell no small amount of b/s. Of course, it's subjective as to what a person thinks 'learning' a song or drum part involves. Regardless of what people think about his technique, Portnoy comes up with some of the most intricate and well honed drum parts in the business. If you find Dream Theater songs easy and quick to learn (as Portnoy plays them) then you should certainly see yourself as a naturally talented drummer.
OR maybe you just dont know with intricate means. Have you studied theory? My playing , counting is all a product of practice and work , if i was naturaly gifted it wouldnt have taken such. My point remains the same.. A drummer that has been playing for a while should have the chops to handle theese songs , a general understanding of time sig and rhythm should take care of the rest.

lets not forget the person who i was replying to said it was taking him months just to learn how to count the stuff. He should most certainly invest in a music theory book.

if a drummers been playing for that long and doesnt have the chops to handle something like this its time to start practicing.
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:49 AM
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OR maybe you just dont know with intricate means. Have you studied theory? My playing , counting is all a product of practice and work , if i was naturaly gifted it wouldnt have taken such. My point remains the same.. A drummer that has been playing for a while should have the chops to handle theese songs , a general understanding of time sig and rhythm should take care of the rest.

lets not forget the person who i was replying to said it was taking him months just to learn how to count the stuff. He should most certainly invest in a music theory book.

if a drummers been playing for that long and doesnt have the chops to handle something like this its time to start practicing.
Your mistake is to project your own expectations onto others. No two drummers will start with the same strengths and weaknesses, progress at exactly the same rate, or have the same motivation to develop the same skills. It's pointless to measure the rate of development in years. Portnoy has distinctive chops which he executes in a very 'idiosynchratic' way; someone with abundant natural talent for rhythm may play for five years and gain highly developed chops, but may not be able to reproduce Portnoy parts, at least not without due attention.
AS for natural gifts, you seem to think that having to work on a skill means you never had a gift for it in the first place. The only reason we view certain players as 'naturally talented', Colaiuta, Weckl, Williams etc., is that these guys took their natural gift and worked and nutured them to their fullest. They were driven to woodshed the hardest.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:49 AM
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Sorry, but i smell no small amount of b/s. Of course, it's subjective as to what a person thinks 'learning' a song or drum part involves. Regardless of what people think about his technique, Portnoy comes up with some of the most intricate and well honed drum parts in the business. If you find Dream Theater songs easy and quick to learn (as Portnoy plays them) then you should certainly see yourself as a naturally talented drummer.
Well, just wanted to point something out, Some people find it difficult to learn Mikes stuff, so even if one is gifted sometimes its hard to learn things like that. And "Naturally Talented" I think talent is an excuse for not practicing, now if you ask me Talent does not exist, I would say Skill exists. I prefer somebody telling me that I am skilled than talented, because talent would make it seem that I did not work hard enough, sometimes thats what people intend to say but for me I prefer it when people say I am skilled.

Now back to portnoy, even if one is "talented" its hard to learn his ways and try to imitate him because alot of what he does is His way of doing it, no drummer is going to imitate other drummers because every drummer I believe always try to improvise for the better so I think that even if one is an incredible drummer its hard to imitate someone that has different ways of doing things because every drummer is unique in every single way possible.

I bet I sound so confusing most of the time I don't even understand what I say,,, I hope you understand though!
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:12 AM
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Your mistake is to project your own expectations onto others. No two drummers will start with the same strengths and weaknesses, progress at exactly the same rate, or have the same motivation to develop the same skills. It's pointless to measure the rate of development in years. Portnoy has distinctive chops which he executes in a very 'idiosynchratic' way; someone with abundant natural talent for rhythm may play for five years and gain highly developed chops, but may not be able to reproduce Portnoy parts, at least not without due attention.
AS for natural gifts, you seem to think that having to work on a skill means you never had a gift for it in the first place. The only reason we view certain players as 'naturally talented', Colaiuta, Weckl, Williams etc., is that these guys took their natural gift and worked and nutured them to their fullest. They were driven to woodshed the hardest.
I agree with part of what rolo said... being that skill is a much better word than talent .I dont recognize talent , its skill that i like to see.
Now as for portnoy.. pseudo-idiosyncratic better describes his use of chops. He has them for sure , but lets face it he idolized a drummer that wasnt that great ( you might know of him from rush) and thusly became a not so great ,boring and flashy drummer.

My comment about educating yourself in theory is still inteded for the same people i said before.
If i couldnt read music , count time , learn songs , and had no chops... Lets be real .. not many people would call me a drummer. Get serious , learn your craft.
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:38 AM
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Well, just wanted to point something out, Some people find it difficult to learn Mikes stuff, so even if one is gifted sometimes its hard to learn things like that. And "Naturally Talented" I think talent is an excuse for not practicing, now if you ask me Talent does not exist, I would say Skill exists. I prefer somebody telling me that I am skilled than talented, because talent would make it seem that I did not work hard enough, sometimes thats what people intend to say but for me I prefer it when people say I am skilled.

Now back to portnoy, even if one is "talented" its hard to learn his ways and try to imitate him because alot of what he does is His way of doing it, no drummer is going to imitate other drummers because every drummer I believe always try to improvise for the better so I think that even if one is an incredible drummer its hard to imitate someone that has different ways of doing things because every drummer is unique in every single way possible.

I bet I sound so confusing most of the time I don't even understand what I say,,, I hope you understand though!
I understand it all, our posts agree on nearly all points. I would disagree on your point on talent not existing. Talent is undeniable, it's just intangible. Some skills certainly can be learned with little or no pre-existing talent; with a musical instrument, however, it is talent which ensures those learned skills are put to use creatively, musically. Portnoy has a talent for assimilating rhythmic and rudimental ideas and creating his own voice with them. I would argue that someone like Vinnie Colaiuta displays huge amounts of natural talent given his ability to be musically expressive and satisfying in almost any style or genre he's called upon to play. Above all, he looks totally relaxed and masterly at the insrument. Sometimes natural talent can be identified just by feel, and learned skills alone can't acheive this.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:10 AM
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No one will ever be convinced. Love him or hate him, it makes no difference. He is good, that's all that matters.

No point in going into details about peoples souls and natual or learned talent. He is my fav drummer and this thread is making him look like the latest controversy on CNN.
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Old 09-17-2007, 04:16 AM
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this isnt a topic so much about portnoy.. Atleast thats not what i inteded. Its about education. educate yourself and you should be able to play anything.
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:12 AM
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Haha, yeah it is just a discussion!
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:47 AM
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yes i can. However i wont, its not that difficult of a song. Regardless of my feelings on his playing my post was not made to tell anyone that i think portnoy is a waste or anything of the sort. Basic theory and 5 years of chops should make you more than able to playing his songs. NO SONG PERIOD SHOULD TAKE YOU MONTHS TO LEARN.

If you want to play something challenging try something that wont make you sound like a metranome. I recomend tool, meshuggah , and porcupine tree if your looking to be challenged.
Portnoy sounds like a metronome? Oh if you mean he has a very good sense of timing then I agree. Please explaine to me how Tool and meshuggah are different with odd times, you aren't backing up what you say. I can also play the songs I mentioned but it's not an easy thing to do, I can only play them because i've sold my soul to drums and practice alot more then most. The average drummer can NOT play them.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:15 AM
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Portnoy sounds like a metronome? Oh if you mean he has a very good sense of timing then I agree. Please explaine to me how Tool and meshuggah are different with odd times, you aren't backing up what you say. I can also play the songs I mentioned but it's not an easy thing to do, I can only play them because i've sold my soul to drums and practice alot more then most. The average drummer can NOT play them.
Tool and meshugah are different with odd times becasue the drummers dont subdivide the odd times through ther bass drum and snare and thats why portnoy ends up sounding like a metranome. Honestly he plays odd times how i would expect anyone else to , and that boring.
Portnoy playing in 7/8 would prolly sound something like sbsbsbb with hihhat 8ths on top. Carey however allows the music to breath and plays more naturally , you wont hear the subdivisions in his playing , or atleast not the boring and stale way that portnoy does.

TO me it sounds like portnoy and the rest of that band approaches the music with subdivisions of odd meter in ther head. You lock yourself into very common patterns that way.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:38 AM
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There are quite a few songs where Portnoy plays naturally like you say. Like The Great Debate, New Millenium, The solo during Metropolis part 1...there are alot of songs where he is creative with his odd timing, it's one of his best attributes.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:31 PM
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There are quite a few songs where Portnoy plays naturally like you say. Like The Great Debate, New Millenium, The solo during Metropolis part 1...there are alot of songs where he is creative with his odd timing, it's one of his best attributes.
Whatever you say buddy.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:49 PM
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I hope I can contribute something here...but being in a Dream Theater tribute band and having read some of these posts, I have to agree here and there with both sides. The Portnoy fans who praise Portnoy as the new God of drumming, as well as the Drummers who are just not impressed with Portnoy at all.

You might think that because I'm in a DT tribute band I'm going to say that Portnoy is the greatest Drummer out there...but that's actually not the case. I have to say that "bfdrum86" is for the most part correct. A good understanding of drum theory, with some good chops will definitely allow you to play even some of the more difficult DT stuff. Believe it or not, I learned Dance of Eternity in my car while driving, just listening to it and counting, but perfected it by practicing behind the kit. What makes this stuff so difficult is not necessarily the difficulty of what is being played, but remembering everything that needs to be played. Now having said that, I will say that there a few parts that I have found difficult to play, but not necessarily because they are technically superior. To me it's more of a brain thing, my brain is obviously wired differently than Mike’s brain, and there are things that my brain will take longer to absorb. However, whenever I’ve encountered this, it has never been anything that a few days of good practice can’t fix. It’s just a matter of getting my brain and my body used to what needs to be played. But isn’t that the case with all of us…Practice is the bottom line if you want to learn anything!

So, No! Mike is not the greatest drummer out there or that has ever lived etc… I’m sorry to disappoint all the fans who think so. But Mike IS however a great drummer and he is Dream Theater incarnate! This is why I respect him as a drummer and a musician. Without him Dream Theater wouldn’t be what it is today, and who knows, maybe the same thing can be said about Prog Rock. I heard some complaints when he was added to the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame. Some argued he wasn’t a good enough drummer and threw out names like Donati and Lang, I think this was a poor excuse…what about Charlie Watts and Ringo Starr? If someone told me Mike has better chops than Charlie and Ringo, I would have to agree. However, it’s their contribution to drumming and music in general that makes them so special and worthy of respect from all of us.

Anyway, just my 2 cents on this whole Portnoy love/hate thing!

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Old 10-13-2007, 12:54 AM
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I don't think critisising Portnoy about getting into the drummer's hall of fame is anything to argue about, it wasn't his choice. In my opinion i think he did deserve it(check my name), his unique style and passionnate playing has obviously been recognised, and has influenced many a drummer, otherwise there wouldnt be 875+ replys on this thread. Sure he's no Thomas Lang.. but would Dream Theater, LTE, or any of his other sideprojects be what they are today with that Austrian behind the kit? (not saying Lang's a bad player, i've seen him live, his drumming is insane, but he could never pull off a Portnoy). Drummers in the hall of fame arn't there because they can play every rudiment at 180bpm with their feet... they've influened the world of drums in some way, wouldn't you agree? Dennis Chambers, Bonham, Max Roach (rip), Buddy Rich etc. They got there for that reason. I'm sure everyone knows, just reinforcing a point :)
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:28 AM
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Far be it for me to light another match under this one.... but:

Mike Portnoy is clearly a brilliant musician. I believe he writes or co-writes most of DT's songs. I suspect that he is not solely talented on drums but also other instruments.

I have been a fan of DT ever since I saw the video from Images and Words, Live in Tokyo. I've seen them 4 times in concert, have bought all of their work and I just think they make a great noise!

I was chuckling when I read Vic_Rattledeth's post - I think we should start a thread on "The Dance of Eternity" and people should post their efforts in video form. I would certainly be hugely impressed with anyone who could reproduce that sort of playing, sound and technique. Not only that but one would need to make vast investments to get the sort of gear you need to even come close.

Give me ten years of 8 hours-a-day practice and I'll humbly post my video effort

All the best

Rich
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:44 PM
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...and maybe it's worthwhile mentioning that a lot, if not most of his drumming was recorded while he was under the influence of his alcohol addiction... I can't even drum like he does when I'm sober..! (Maybe I can pick up some extra speed when I'm completely wired on caffeine though)
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:58 AM
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In my sincerest opinion Mike Portnoy is an amazing drummer, he can play some totally screwed up tome signatures and make it sound at least, palatable.....but hes reallly, in all essence, nothing more than a drumming robot....
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:44 PM
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I'm a newby here. I see almost as much MP bashing here as I do on the rush forum! lmao
Well, I usually defend him, even though I'm sure a lot of people are sick of him. I met him in oct 1992 when they were young and hungry, when there were only 50 people in the audience. At that time, he was a focused individual who was working very hard for DT. His influences and age are very close to mine, so maybe I can relate to him more than some people. When I was a kid I idolized neil peart and my drum teacher dogged on him saying he does stuff the same all the time. I couldn't see what he meant then but now that I'm a more "seasoned" player (old bastard) I see a lot of Neil AND Mike using certain patterns a lot. Who can really dispute how much these guys are appreciated? MP mailed me two majesty boot CD's in 1995 for free, so I don't think the guy's that bad. He was pretty damn cool to talk to, actually.
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:08 AM
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I am still watchingINCONSANTMOTION again and again. Now all i need is another hihat to be able "The Great Debate" hahahaha.

Mike Portnoy has influenced me to enter bands who attack music from so many angles. Which all bands (DT, OSI etc) have done again and again.
To be able to do this for every ablum and for the amount of years he has been doing it, is a great achievement. That is why he greats my vote in one of the best prog drums
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Portnoy is one of my greatest influences (my playing style changed completely thanks to him and now I play with the same kind of thinking which I find is bad 'cause I want to create something new, but anyway), even though he is creative and "out of the box" he sometimes gets very repetitive and does the same old fills or grooves which he has used so many times before.
But I still find him one of the greatest drummers ever.
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I just got a copy of Mike's Ten Degree's of Turbulent Drumming.

Never really listened to DT that much, but after watching the video, I think maybe I will pay a little more attention. Some serious memory work going on (plus some incredible chops of course).
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when you listen too much to any drummer, you start to sound a little like him, but you can tell from miles and miles away if a drummer's a fan a portnoy.
This made me laugh loads because it's so true. I'm guilty of it though, i use some of his fills quite often. i just cant stand the over use of the ssbbssssbb ssbb ttbb ttbb kind of fills. They're cool in a climax but alot of drummers tend to over use them.
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