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Old 01-30-2007, 06:07 PM
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All of you that have talked about his tightness, chops, fitting with the band, obviously haven't done an A-B comparison between the City Of Evil / Waking The Fallen albums, and the Sounding The Seventh Trumpet album.

COE, and WTF are uber engineered, edited and processed which is why his kit sounds as it does and how he plays so tightly with the band, cos a protools engineer has cut the drum tracks up and moved them into place with the rest of the band. As far as I can tell, A7X's budget was slightly smaller on the STST album so we hear them as they are. Loose. Like their playing material too tricky for them. Just listen to the bass drum when it should be in sync with the guitar chugs, or his immense tom fills that dont quite end on the beat.

Dont get me wrong, I have seen them live, and they get most of it right, but as it's been said on previous pages in this thread, most of it is triggered as u can see by the mahoosive rack of samplers, midi processors, etc that sits on his left in the photos.
thats true but he's gotten MUCH better since then. ive watched a few shows lately and he's playing it all like on the albums.
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:08 PM
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I think Sullivan is a good drummer, but he overplays sometimes, especially on the earlier albums. He can play well and quite fast, and I'd have to say that he's better than most metal drummers who just play really fast without any technique or creativity. Still, he's not the best in the world by any means. The Rev deserves credit as a great drummer in his area, but there are many drummers out there who are better. Regardless, I wouldn't mind having his skills, though I am more of one for technique and complexity over crowd-stunningness
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:02 PM
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I have to say that I like the revs chops, I never really was into double bass until I heard the rev. His style is unique and although he is not the best drummer out there, I have learnt a lot of double pedal grooves from listening to there songs. Live though they cant really bring it, but if you watch some of their performances, they have a dreadful sound man.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:01 AM
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Ok: My opinion hardly matters......how? That's pretty rude of you to say; I did nothing to really attack him or you. Are you saying that because I've been drumming for just over 2 years, I have no right to express my opinion? Send me a person message if you have something against me or something like that.

I have listened to Avenged Sevenfold, and personally I don't like them. I have looked at the drum parts, too. In terms of creativity, everything the Reverand has played has been done before. In fact, Blake Richardson of Between the Buried and Me seems to do a better job than the Reverand does; Richardson is able to play in not only a more appealing manner, but has a better sense of grooves, as they are far more interesting.

Of course I realize a person can do whatever they want; I myself do it in my own band. I just think that the Reverand doesn't seem to incorporate other styles into his drumming, and his so-called "grooves" have been done before (listen to ...And Justice For All by Metallica, whom "A7X" cites as one of their main influences). Instead of attempting to encompass a wide array of styles, he sticks to typical hardcore grooves. I hardly consider him a bad drummer - he plays his style well - but I feel he gets far too much recognition, and is highly over-rated. His drumming is good, however, it is not a superior as everyone views it; he isn't that good where he deserves this recognition. When he can bring something new to Hardcore music (which Blake Richardson has done), then I will consider as great as everyone else seems to consider him until then, I don't.

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^ I read all these replies you people were posting until I got here, I stopped after this guy's post because he basically sums up what I totally agree with. He brings nothing creative to the whole genre, he get's stuff done, he is good but not great.
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:55 AM
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I personally find his drumming interesting, but he is not that great of a drummer. some of his fills sound pretty badass though
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:21 AM
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the rev really inspired me to pick up a pair of drum sticks. i wanna be able to play like him, but its hard (for me).
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:17 AM
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I really dig this Band they are heavy but they also have great melody and a bit of a pop edge. His setup looks so uncomfortable but I love his playing. In learning these songs theyre not that complicated but they are fast and physically demanding. They fit perfect in this band. So I think they are my favorite newer band but I will reserve final judgement untill I see them live 3/10.
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:39 AM
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the dude is awsome! iv seen them live they are gr8 the jimmy sings wickid aswell as play well live too

he plays most of the songs one handed live and is compltely awsome

the only critasizum i have of him is if he is playin most of his songs one handed he aint showin us what he has got hes showin wt i show off he is so in newer albums he needs 2 step up his drumming and show us what he has really got

but yh the dude rocks
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:48 AM
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I'm no big fan of A7X, but I must admit that Sullivan impresses me - from what I've seen live - with his clean and tight playing. He's a good drummer and gets the job done well.
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Old 05-01-2008, 01:00 PM
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does the reverand have a real name?

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Old 05-01-2008, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Jimmy "The Reverend" Sullivan

I can't really find anything that impresses me about him, not bad but not as astounding as everyone makes him out to be, maybe I'd like him more if he didn't look absurd or if he played in a band that I could enjoy...
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:11 PM
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the rev really inspired me to pick up a pair of drum sticks. i wanna be able to play like him, but its hard (for me).
It's hard for most drummers, 'the reverend' is pretty good, pretty tight, no matter what you think of his band.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Jimmy "The Reverend" Sullivan

Finally a board about the Rev!
Avenged Sevenfold are my favourite band, and personally I think he is an amazing drummer. Not the best out there, but definately a very good drummer. He has great creativity and what he plays fits into the songs perfectly.
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: Jimmy "The Reverend" Sullivan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zskDeJajB20&fmt=18

3:43 is the drum solo..


and those of you saying he doesn't have any jazz influence....listen to 'almost easy'..


being influenced by mike portnoy and vinnie paul has really made him become a great drummer...
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:19 PM
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The drumming on Bat Country is just amazing
Seems your perception of 'amazing' differs from mine quite drastically. There are tonnes of young drummers on Youtube covering that song, and if they can all do it then I doubt the drum part is that special.

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Old 06-10-2008, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: Jimmy "The Reverend" Sullivan

Okay, first of all, unless your name is Jason Bittner, shut the hell up, because nothing you can play can touch the skill that the Rev has...is he the best? no, he's not the best. In case you haven't noticed, the best musicians aren't in kickass band like Avenged Sevenfold (take Michael Angelo Batio for instance, he's insanely good, but his music is literally all shred, no composition).

secondly...take it from someone who actually knows how to tune drums (and plays them as well)...
every drummer i know has been trying to get their snare to sound like The Rev's ever since Bat Country debuted...it's freakin crisp, and dry, and everything else beautiful about an awesome snare drum.

The Rev has excellent chops, technique, visual performance skills, variety, and FEEL...listen to songs like sidewinder, City of Evil was a GREAT album, with the Self-Titled album being even stronger)

reply with whatever insults or baseless opinions you have, i'd love to hear them.
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Old 06-16-2008, 04:15 AM
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Seems your perception of 'amazing' differs from mine quite drastically. There are tonnes of young drummers on Youtube covering that song, and if they can all do it then I doubt the drum part is that special.

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Sure, they're trying, and failing miserably.

Anyway, I think the Rev is a great drummer. He's not one of those drummers that tries to show off how good he is by playing the most complicated thing he can play for every fill, even though he could. He chooses a fill that fits with the music and I respect that. You can tell by listening to Avenged Sevenfold that he's the most talented member of the band.

Here's a link of him recording some songs on City of Evil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-8E6AWnh18

The first part is Betrayed, then Bat Country.

Oh, and here's a clip of him recording Almost Easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9fqEsVc4r8

Maybe not too impressive, but you can tell he's not trying very hard.

Also, I'm new here and this is my first post on these forums. Hi everybody!
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:11 PM
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Funny I find that while I really enjoy Revs playing I hate the snare sound on City of Evil. Interesting that someone above mentioned Bittner as this evening I will be at Shadows Fall and Avenged Sevenfold in Toronto.

Yeah I'm psyced.
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Old 04-05-2009, 05:30 AM
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The rev is insane Avenged Sevenfold is my favorite band as well. The rev def keeps in real with alot of musical talent but knows when to calm down too. Hes one of my favorites by far. A good combo of holy mother of God and clean sound
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Old 04-05-2009, 05:46 AM
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I rather enjoyed City of Evil. It was a great blend of 80's and modern metal.

I think the Rev did an outstanding job on that album, playing some pretty insane parts, which has made him one my favorite younger drummers.

I can't say I was impressed by the next album as much. I'd like to see them live, but every time they do a show around here, something else comes up and I can't make it.
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Old 04-05-2009, 05:49 AM
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Seems your perception of 'amazing' differs from mine quite drastically. There are tonnes of young drummers on Youtube covering that song, and if they can all do it then I doubt the drum part is that special.

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Tons of drummer out there try to play like Buddy Rich/Neil Peart/*insert any well known drummer* too, but that doesn't take away from what the original drummer's performance.
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:18 AM
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the dude is awsome! iv seen them live they are gr8 the jimmy sings wickid aswell as play well live too

he plays most of the songs one handed live and is compltely awsome

the only critasizum i have of him is if he is playin most of his songs one handed he aint showin us what he has got hes showin wt i show off he is so in newer albums he needs 2 step up his drumming and show us what he has really got

but yh the dude rocks
I don't listen to these guys, they seem fine to me just not my bag, kinda remind me of the eighties- This guy's post, however, just brightened my day considerably. Hilarious. It's Teh awsum...or something.
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Old 12-29-2009, 07:56 AM
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I was lucky enough to see him twice. He was a great drummer. RIP.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:27 AM
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So sad... Although I didn't like the band when they came out with their newest album, I always loved the drummer. RIP.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:31 AM
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Full story of The Rev's death so far:
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:44 PM
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One of my favs of all time. RIP.
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Old 12-29-2009, 05:17 PM
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Jimmy was a multi-talented musician and his sound and melodic playing got me into AX7 and got me liking the band. In many interview with the band members, all of them said he was the "musician/artist" in the band.


It's very sad coz to me he was a very inspirational drummer in the metal genre.

RIP Jimmy :(
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Old 12-29-2009, 07:42 PM
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A7X was my favorite band of the genre and it is a great loss to the world of drumming that we lost a drummer of such skill and unique style. He will be missed greatly. RIP Rev.
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:16 AM
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His playing on City of Evil was great.

I had a lot of respect for his drumming.

Rest in Peace.
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Old 12-30-2009, 06:09 AM
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Definitely one of my most inspirational drummers. RIP Jimmy Sullivan.
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Old 12-31-2009, 01:52 PM
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Very sad news. I'm not a huge fan of the band but there's no doubt the Rev was a fantastic drummer. RIP :(
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:14 PM
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Seems your perception of 'amazing' differs from mine quite drastically. There are tonnes of young drummers on Youtube covering that song, and if they can all do it then I doubt the drum part is that special.

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99% of drummers can cover anything. But only a select few great drummers can actually MAKE the awesome drumming the others are covering. You know what makes a great drummer? Not the speed or anything like that, or the ability to do something someone has done be4, like following an instruction sheet on how to build a toy helicopter. Its the creativity; being able to write the actual drumming, actually write it, not just play it when someone else has written it. Hell i can play alot of Dream Theatre and A7X stuff, but im not a great drummer, im mediocre at best, but the reason i can do the drumming is because its already been done. Im simply following the arrows when i drum DT or A7X songs.

Everyone think about that ^-^
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Old 01-01-2010, 01:27 AM
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Such a damn shame he was definitely one of my favorite drummers and one of my biggest inspirations.
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One of my Fav. Metal Drummer.... R.I.P The Rev....
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As much as I hate A7X he was good drummer. RIP
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Any of you guys tried playing Bat Country? That song is crazy hard! Well I have only been playing for two years, that might be another reason why :p
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:14 PM
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Anybody ever find out how he died?
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All of you that have talked about his tightness, chops, fitting with the band, obviously haven't done an A-B comparison between the City Of Evil / Waking The Fallen albums, and the Sounding The Seventh Trumpet album.

COE, and WTF are uber engineered, edited and processed which is why his kit sounds as it does and how he plays so tightly with the band, cos a protools engineer has cut the drum tracks up and moved them into place with the rest of the band. As far as I can tell, A7X's budget was slightly smaller on the STST album so we hear them as they are. Loose. Like their playing material too tricky for them. Just listen to the bass drum when it should be in sync with the guitar chugs, or his immense tom fills that dont quite end on the beat.

Dont get me wrong, I have seen them live, and they get most of it right, but as it's been said on previous pages in this thread, most of it is triggered as u can see by the mahoosive rack of samplers, midi processors, etc that sits on his left in the photos.
This is years late, but this has been bugging me.

Making a comparison of something recorded over 6 years ago (from your post date) means little for a few reasons. It was their first album; they had little production values. It was a pretty raw recording done when the band was all around 20. It was recorded on a very small budget. A lot of the album was recorded in a single take and not recorded to a click. They had no real producer to tell them what to do or make them do more takes. Also the fact that it was recorded fairly long ago also means that there's been much time to improve, as most people do, so that doesn't mean much at all in comparison to today.

For Waking the Fallen, they had a producer come in and teach them how to really record an album with good production values. (You can see this on their DVD.) They learned how to play to a click, they were (not literally) beat up by their producer and they took their time recording the album. That album was done on an independent label, so it wasn't really high budget. I doubt it would be all pro tools. One of my favorite live performances of theirs from around this time would be this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5LqNMBqePo Overall good drumming.

For City of Evil, I'm pretty sure that was a lot of engineering done on that to get a special sound. I'm fairly certain there are some sampled sounds (hello Beast and the Harlot kick drum). There's one clip of him on youtube recording parts of a couple songs for CoE, which you can watch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXPKAwKj4I Definitely not sloppy studio magic. Not much else to say here for certain.

However, if their sound is triggered live (which it doesn't sound like), that has nothing to do with his tightness (or looseness); a sloppy drummer with triggers is still sloppy. Just from clips of watching him perform live, I don't think it would be triggers, since his kit in general sounds great (DW, woohoo): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjQ5PdFr3bM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHKXb...lated#t=07m40s Although you never know, I don't think it's much of an issue. On an interesting note, I recall in an interview (with Modern Drummer I think), he said all the drumming on their self-titled album was not sampled sounds. Oh, and leaving this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6aBD56exLY

Anyway, it really sucks that he died (especially since I'm a fan, I guess), both for his drumming and because he's just a really cool guy. A7X finished writing their next album and was supposed to start recording this month, had he not died. :(

I was just listening to only the drum track for several songs and just thought I would share.
Beast and the Harlot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xuzBeGmKaA
Almost Easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x2z2o5ne78
Critical Acclaim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzuXDWBB7vo
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:58 PM
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Anybody ever find out how he died?
apperantly, no one knows yet. they are just calling it 'natural causes.'

The Rev admitted to the use of cocaine and other drugs from a Revolver magazine interview.
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