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Old 04-02-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

Sorry if this question has been asked many times before, I did search and read the relevant posts but wanted to post my own!

I have a Pearl Session Custom, 4pl Maple Shells, Sizes: 22" 12" 13" 16" & 14" snare. I changed the stock heads for pinstripes batter on the toms, ambassador resos and ambassadors on the snare and am reasonably happy with them. I have never changed the bass heads tho and have never got the sound I am looking for so thought it was time to get rid of the stock heads.

I am going to change the batter head on the bass and leave the stock reso for now and see what its like because i'm a bit tight! So after doing a bit of research it seems the choice for the batter head is between the powerstroke 3, emad or superkick I. I have not really knowingly played kits with any of these heads on (I probably have but didn't really take much notice).

So, I would welcome any advise on which batter head to get out of the three. I am tending to lean towards the emad from what I have read but have not yet fully decided. I want a classic rock sound, a chest pounding thump. With the stock head I have on at the moment I just get a rubbish cardboard box slap which doesn't cut through at all.

Which should I go for?
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:08 PM
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What stock head do you have onit?

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Old 04-02-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

i had the same dilemma a few months, maybe a year ago. i looked at the PS3 and the Sk1 and asked around. i thought id try the sk1 and iv neevr looked back. it sounds the nuts on my kit! (22" bass drum). the dampening ring is good as well and iv got an aquarian reso head as well which sound great together.
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Old 04-02-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

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I have the stock pearl reso and batter on the bass at the moment (pearl protone) which seem to be single ply with a plastic muffle ring type thing on the inside which is only connected to the head at the outer edge. I have put a port hole and holz ring in my reso tho which is why I am a bit reluctant to change that just yet if I can get a decent sound from just changing the batter head. At them moment all I can get is a rubbish cardboard box slap sound when I tune low but if I tune a bit higher then I get a rubbish ringy sound which is nothing like a bass drum should be. I have one pillow in there as well which just touches each head otherwise it sounds mega rubbish however its tuned.

I really want a nice loud thumping rock sound.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:38 AM
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I have the stock pearl reso and batter on the bass at the moment (pearl protone) which seem to be single ply with a plastic muffle ring type thing on the inside which is only connected to the head at the outer edge. I have put a port hole and holz ring in my reso tho which is why I am a bit reluctant to change that just yet if I can get a decent sound from just changing the batter head. At them moment all I can get is a rubbish cardboard box slap sound when I tune low but if I tune a bit higher then I get a rubbish ringy sound which is nothing like a bass drum should be. I have one pillow in there as well which just touches each head otherwise it sounds mega rubbish however its tuned.

I really want a nice loud thumping rock sound.

I could be wrong, but this is an equivalent to the Remo Powerstroke 3, probably made for Pearl by Remo. So if you are dissatisied with its sound, you may have your answer on the Powerstroke 3 purchase. Of course it is your money, but if I can save you some $......



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Old 04-03-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

I was leaning towards the emad or superkick anyway so I think I will narrow it down to one of these two. I read that the emad can give a bit of a plastic sound in some instances, is this true and will it give me the nice deep thump I am looking for or is the superkick the choice for me?

By the way, I'm from the UK so you will be saving me £'s rather than $'s, I think a 22" emad or superkick I costs £30-35 over here.
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Old 04-05-2007, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

I've used SK1's on my 22" Yamaha for the past 12 years and it thumps! Just put an Emad on the Pearl Export we have at church and it sounds good too. I think I hear a little more of a "click" when the beater hits the emad compared to the superkick, both using felt beaters.
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

The emads sound good, but i've had durability issues with them. Every emad i've owned had problems with the plastic ring coming unglued and/or cracking. The heads were fine but the stupid ring kept shortening their life. I switched to the evans eq3 (equivalent to powerstroke) and it's essentially the same sound minus durability issues. I'm happy with it.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

I'm leaning towards the superkick I now especially if it has a bit less click/slap than the emad and they both cost near enough the same here in the UK.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:13 PM
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The emads sound good, but i've had durability issues with them. Every emad i've owned had problems with the plastic ring coming unglued and/or cracking. The heads were fine but the stupid ring kept shortening their life. I switched to the evans eq3 (equivalent to powerstroke) and it's essentially the same sound minus durability issues. I'm happy with it.
EQ3 is a double ply, PS3 is single. The equivalent of PS3 would be EQ4. I'm curious how it sounds. With a felt strip it should be as focused as an emad but warmer and more natural. Anyone tried EQ4?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

So I have taken the plunge and bought a superkick 1 batter head. It should arrive tomorrow. Any advise on tuning (tight/med/loose?) for batter and reso? My reso is a black stock pearl head (has a plastic ring around the inner edge which is only attached at the very edge, possibly similar to ps3??) with a 6" port hole.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:51 PM
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The emads sound good, but i've had durability issues with them. Every emad i've owned had problems with the plastic ring coming unglued and/or cracking. The heads were fine but the stupid ring kept shortening their life. I switched to the evans eq3 (equivalent to powerstroke) and it's essentially the same sound minus durability issues. I'm happy with it.
The EQ3 isn't the equivilant to the Powerstroke 3. The EQ3 is 2 ply and the PS3 is one ply. The EQ4 is the exact same as the PS3. 1 ply 10mil medium weight head with a muffle ring around the underside of the head.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:03 PM
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The EQ4 is the exact same as the PS3.
Except that EQ4 has a smaller ring.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:31 PM
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I use a powerstroke 3 on my Sonor kit bass....Sounds lovely....especailly with the Falam patch attached....

nice booming sound....maybe your problem is with your reso head??
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:59 PM
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Except that EQ4 has a smaller ring.
Same size ring on a 22" head. However, Evans adjust the size of the ring according to the size of the drum head, where as Remo doesn't.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:44 AM
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The EQ3 isn't the equivilant to the Powerstroke 3. The EQ3 is 2 ply and the PS3 is one ply. The EQ4 is the exact same as the PS3. 1 ply 10mil medium weight head with a muffle ring around the underside of the head.
Wouldn't the PS4 be the EQ3's equivalent?

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Old 04-18-2007, 10:44 AM
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Skitch,

I have the stock pearl reso and batter on the bass at the moment (pearl protone) which seem to be single ply with a plastic muffle ring type thing on the inside which is only connected to the head at the outer edge. I have put a port hole and holz ring in my reso tho which is why I am a bit reluctant to change that just yet if I can get a decent sound from just changing the batter head. At them moment all I can get is a rubbish cardboard box slap sound when I tune low but if I tune a bit higher then I get a rubbish ringy sound which is nothing like a bass drum should be. I have one pillow in there as well which just touches each head otherwise it sounds mega rubbish however its tuned.

I really want a nice loud thumping rock sound.
I have a 22" Export and I had exactly the same issues with my bass drum - looser it gave me a horrible slap sound and tighter it became a high-pitched ring.

I then got a Superkick II, which solved a lot of the problem, but I still had to put a pillow or folded blanket inside, touching the (Pearl stock) reso.

Then I went out and bought an Aquarian Regulator ported reso and the difference it made is unbelievable. Together with the Superkick II batter they produce a big, tight boom and I would never dream of putting any dampening stuff inside.

I thought my terrible bass drum sound was just down to my kit and that I'd have to live with it until I upgraded. But now I love the sound of my entire kit. By the way, I have Aquarian Studio-X on my toms and Focus-X on my snare - highly recommended.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:19 PM
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Yeah I am hoping I can get away without replacing the reso but not entirely confident that I will be able to get a decent enough sound with the stock reso, I'm not concerned about keeping a pillow inside so hopefully it will sound ok. Will probably be fitting it on Friday when I get a chance.
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Wouldn't the PS4 be the EQ3's equivalent?

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The EQ3 and PS4 are close. The one thing in common is they are both 2 ply and that's it. The EQ3 is two plies of 6.5mil film for a total of 13mil. The PS4 is two plies of 7mil mylar for a total of 14mil. The EQ3 also has an extra muffle ring that can be removed where as the PS4 doesn't.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

I am having the same problem with my Tama Superstar 22" drum. I was thinking PS3, EMAD, or Superkick II...

Why did you rule out the Superkick II and stick to the SK1? I am also looking for the same big thumping rock sound.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:48 AM
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The EQ3 and PS4 are close. The one thing in common is they are both 2 ply and that's it. The EQ3 is two plies of 6.5mil film for a total of 13mil. The PS4 is two plies of 7mil mylar for a total of 14mil. The EQ3 also has an extra muffle ring that can be removed where as the PS4 doesn't.
The PS4 doesn't what have a muffle ring or a removable muffle ring? If the PS4 didn't have a muffle ring, then what would the difference be from an Emperor?

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The PS4 doesn't what have a muffle ring or a removable muffle ring? If the PS4 didn't have a muffle ring, then what would the difference be from an Emperor?
I think he's saying that the EQ3 has an extra muffle ring that can be removed. So both heads have a fixed ring, but EQ3 has an extra one which can be removed if need be.
I think....
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I think he's saying that the EQ3 has an extra muffle ring that can be removed. So both heads have a fixed ring, but EQ3 has an extra one which can be removed if need be.
I think....
Yeah, I wasn't criticizing; I was asking for clarification. Thanks!



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I think he's saying that the EQ3 has an extra muffle ring that can be removed. So both heads have a fixed ring, but EQ3 has an extra one which can be removed if need be.
I think....
He's right, sorry I might not have worded it right.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:43 PM
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EQ3 is a double ply, PS3 is single. The equivalent of PS3 would be EQ4. I'm curious how it sounds. With a felt strip it should be as focused as an emad but warmer and more natural. Anyone tried EQ4?
sorry, that's what i meant. i always confuse the two cause my reso is the eq3, lol. i have the single ply one. I really like it. Like i said before, it's basically the same sound as a powerstroke.
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:35 PM
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So I popped my new Superkick I head onto my 22" Pearl Session Custom Maple Bass, spent about 15mins tuning it up and retuning my original stock reso and tried it. Absolutely superb! I am so pleased with the sound, a lovely loud deep thump. I am still using a small pillow which lightly touches both heads but that doesn't bother me, just such a great sound, so pleased!
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Glad you're happy with it!! If you get the opportunity to change the reso out to one of the Aquarian regulator series you'll be able to remove that pillow and get an even deeper thump!
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Hurders,
I'm glad you had success with the SKI. I've been running SKI's and SKII's for the last 10 years with much success. I currently am running an SKII with a PS3 ebony reso on my DW (keller shell) 18"x24", wide open, and it sounds thunderous!
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: Powerstroke 3 vs emad vs superkick I

i would say go with the emad.....im a bit new on the drums but i got one to replace the one on my starter set and it has a great booming low end sound.....i am also thinking about getting the emad resonant head so i can pull the pillow out of the bass drum and really hear it cut through
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