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Old 03-19-2007, 12:18 PM
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Hi!
Recently got a used Istanbul Mehmet Sultan 22" Ride. As soon as I tried it in the shop I knew this was the ride I wanted. It's dark, complex and quite dry. It's also thick and more powerful that I would have expected from the Sultan series. I'm mostly a metal/rock player, and I think it will do well in a metal setting. I just couldn't resist the beauty of the sound and the look of the cymbal.

PS: I think it's the same model (not sure about the size) that Daniel Svennson (of In Flames) used during the recordings of Come Clarity.

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Old 03-19-2007, 12:20 PM
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Lovely stuff. Cool dog too.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:29 PM
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Oh no... I'm getting cymbal lust right about now...
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:43 PM
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Looks great, almost matches the bed.

Do you know how heavy it is in grams?
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:09 PM
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Do you know how heavy it is in grams?
No, I don't but I hope to weight it soon. I think it's over 3 kg, though
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:58 PM
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that's pretty heavy... my 20" Bosphorus Traditional heavy ride is just 2600 I think; I'll just go check...
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Old 03-19-2007, 08:59 PM
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man, that thing is definitly beautiful. And they also sound cool! I see that you`ve got a Mehmet...do find them very different to the Agop Sultans? How do you like Mehmets in general?

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No, I don't but I hope to weight it soon. I think it's over 3 kg, though
wow, that would be very heavy. My Mel Lewis is 2134 grams...but I still like that Sultan and I`m very curious how such a traditional look/character works with a heavy weight.

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Old 03-19-2007, 09:24 PM
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Wow, very nice. Can't get wrong with Istanbul, or Bosphorus for that matter :)
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:19 PM
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Nice!
I've got a Sultan 14" crash, looks like that one but smaller.
They're pretty cool, but I think I'll be parting with mine soon.
Also have a Mehmet 16" crash- BIG difference in the lines!
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Old 03-19-2007, 11:36 PM
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I see that you`ve got a Mehmet...do find them very different to the Agop Sultans? How do you like Mehmets in general?
I haven't tried any Agop Sultans except the 14" hats, which I didn't like at all, played alone at least.

As for Mehmets, I've seen some people on different forums putting them down, saying that they're inferior to Agops. So far, all the Mehmets I tried were top-notch cymbals, very well made and sounding excellent (which you can't say for all Alchemy cymbals, for example). Mehmet just doesn't have all the marketing and advertisement system that Agop has. Frankly, so far, I tend to prefer Mehmet to Agop, even if both sound very good (I do love my Alchemy Regular 14" hats!).

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Well, it works pretty well, actually :). The cymbal has a solid, dry, loud, low-pitched ping, which is devoid of that (annoying) "dzinng" hi-frequency sound (like in my HHX Stage ride). There's a dark, massive wash, and the sustain is long, but it doesn't dominate in the mix, due to its low pitch. The bell is pretty wide, but with a low profile, so making a nice hit with the shaft of the stick might be tricky. The sound of the bell is quite complex, and again, low-pitched, so I prefer the bell of my HHX Stage (very musical bell). Still, it's pretty good. By the way, it's signed Mehmet Tamdeğer inside!

The only thing I dislike is that sometimes the cymbal turns the same side to me, (the darker side on the left of the photos), it's probably not very weigth-balanced. Obvoiusly the first owner had the same problem, since that side is more used than the rest.

I'd like to record it and give you soundclips but have no mike. Maybe I'll get one...

PS: Meinl's Mb20 Pure Metal ride is very heavy, yet hammered in a traditionnal way. The tone is somewhat close to my ride's. Listen to the soundclip on their site, it will give you an idea.
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:31 AM
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Soudfiles?

I have really good experience with a mehmet hi-hat....so I'd like to hear that ride.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:00 PM
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I haven't tried any Agop Sultans except the 14" hats, which I didn't like at all, played alone at least.

As for Mehmets, I've seen some people on different forums putting them down, saying that they're inferior to Agops. So far, all the Mehmets I tried were top-notch cymbals, very well made and sounding excellent (which you can't say for all Alchemy cymbals, for example). Mehmet just doesn't have all the marketing and advertisement system that Agop has. Frankly, so far, I tend to prefer Mehmet to Agop, even if both sound very good (I do love my Alchemy Regular 14" hats!).
Good points. mhh, actually I also love the Mehmets. I find them just brighter and in my opinion they sound not as earthy and natural as the Agops. I prefer Agops but okay, also depends on the particular model. For example I really like Mehmet`s Legend line.

And it`s also right that Mehmet doesn`t have all the marketing options. But actually they could do the same...or?

Overall both have huge potential and lastly the sound is the point for me, not the advertising. Right? =)

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Old 03-20-2007, 08:57 PM
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AGOP's and Mehmet's are two very different animals (that sprung from one company years ago which is why you sometimes see used ads for Istanbul "pre split" cymbals). AGOP's are more known for their "trashy" sound, while Mehmet's have always been more "smooth" sounding. It really depends on your ear and what you are looking for. If you like trashiness... AGOP is the one. If you like a smoother, less trashy sound... mehmets fit that. I
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:06 PM
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AGOP's are more known for their "trashy" sound, while Mehmet's have always been more "smooth" sounding.
Man, that's what I was going to say! :)

Recently I tried Mehmet's Traditionnal 20" Dry Ride , a real treat to my ears. A clear, solid medium-bright ping, a nice bell, no excessive wash, no trashiness. That's why I prefer Mehmets.
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:11 PM
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cool dog!! haha...i've played that cymbal before and it is just great! especially for jazz!
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:41 AM
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Wow, that cymbal is absolutely beautiful. And if you're right about Come Clarity, than it sounds beautiful as well.

You just reminded me what a great album that is.
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Old 03-23-2007, 04:21 PM
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i apsolutely love the way they do the sultan's i love the look! and they sound good... best of both worlds.

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