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Old 02-17-2007, 07:43 AM
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Hello,

I like my G2 over G1 clear head combo on my starclassic performer. It just has a bit too much sustain and not quite enough punch. So close though. I really like the heads.

I have tried EC2s before and you might as well shoot the higher toms because it just kills the sound. Of course this is just my opinion. However, I tried these heads on my old maple sonor, not my birch tama.

Is there something that is just a bit punchier and focused but not dead out there. I guess it would be something between my G2 and old EC2s but probably closer to the G2s?

If you have any suggestions, I would appreciate it.

Thank you.

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Old 02-17-2007, 08:22 AM
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hmmm... the only thing i can come up with is coated G2s, or G2s with some extra muffling

ps - you may want to try G2s (or what ever you figure out with this thread) on the high toms and keep EC2s on the low toms. i know there's someone on this board who does that, changing heads as the tom sizes change to give each tom the right sustain. its kind of like the pearl reference concept
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:48 AM
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hmmm... the only thing i can come up with is coated G2s, or G2s with some extra muffling

ps - you may want to try G2s (or what ever you figure out with this thread) on the high toms and keep EC2s on the low toms. i know there's someone on this board who does that, changing heads as the tom sizes change to give each tom the right sustain. its kind of like the pearl reference concept

Yep They are called Aquarian Super-2 ! ;-)

They are two ply with light muffling ring but the particularity is the first ply is thin (5 mil) and the second ply is medium weight (7 mil).

I checked for Evans and there's nothing between G2 - EC2.

You can hear two sample here from another forum (one is EC2 and the other is Super-2 both on the same kit with the same micing system)
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:13 AM
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I checked for Evans and there's nothing between G2 - EC2.

Yeah, it is kind of like looking for something in between an Emperor and a Pinstripe!

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Old 02-17-2007, 05:07 PM
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Let's see between g2 and ec2 I'm thinking f2
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:58 AM
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Let's see between g2 and ec2 I'm thinking f2
Or G2 with bits of dampaner
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Old 02-18-2007, 06:03 AM
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Super-2's......they work wonders on my ash kit....
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Old 02-18-2007, 06:12 AM
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Default Re: Something between G2 and EC2

here's what have to do, you may not like it because it involves major surgery.

1. cut off some of the ring on an EC2 head (don't ask me how, those heads are too thick for my taste)

OR

2. carefully carefully cut half of one of the plies off an EC2. There are no guarantees that this will sound right when head goes back on drum, but...you asked about between a G2 and an EC2...

Aquarian Super 2, like the one poster said, or Power Thin. Single ply with a bigger dot thickens up the sound quite a bit.

OR

Remo CS Black Dots. Top and bottom, like Tony Williams. Big, thick sound, with definition as well.

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Old 02-18-2007, 09:43 AM
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here's what have to do, you may not like it because it involves major surgery.

1. cut off some of the ring on an EC2 head (don't ask me how, those heads are too thick for my taste)

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2. carefully carefully cut half of one of the plies off an EC2. There are no guarantees that this will sound right when head goes back on drum, but...you asked about between a G2 and an EC2...
Wouldn't doing this cause the drumhead to break........the single plies in a two-ply head are thinner than the ply in a one ply head.


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Old 02-18-2007, 09:47 AM
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...i know there's someone on this board who does that, changing heads as the tom sizes change to give each tom the right sustain. its kind of like the pearl reference concept
I think you're thinking of me. I use G1's on my 8" and 10", G2's on my 12" and 13", and EC2's on everything below that. I find it work just right, short of having my very own Reference series kit...
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Old 02-18-2007, 09:20 PM
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I think you're thinking of me. I use G1's on my 8" and 10", G2's on my 12" and 13", and EC2's on everything below that. I find it work just right, short of having my very own Reference series kit...
I do too...

My 10" - 12" - 13" is one ply Aquarian satin finish texture coated and my 14" - 16" is two ply Aquarian coated Response II... (I may try the coated Super-2 eventually for the 14" & 16").
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^ Ditto

i use TC on my 8" and 12" and Response II on the 16 and 18" Gets rid of some of that unwanted long boom that those big toms have
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Why don't you try the EC1's?
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Old 03-05-2007, 03:44 PM
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Why don't you try the EC1's?
Are they out yet?

They're 14 mil; I wonder how they sound compared to EC 2 (also 14 mil in total) and Powerstroke 3. Anyone tried?
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Old 03-06-2007, 03:25 AM
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Are they out yet?

They're 14 mil; I wonder how they sound compared to EC 2 (also 14 mil in total) and Powerstroke 3. Anyone tried?
I tried them and hated them to be honest. I stuck with Evans Coated G2's.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:03 PM
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I tried them and hated them to be honest. I stuck with Evans Coated G2's.
Mind to tell us WHY you hated them?
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Old 03-06-2007, 03:19 PM
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I tried them and hated them to be honest. I stuck with Evans Coated G2's.

ARE THEY OUT YET?? They aren't on Evan's 'head diagram' ?
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:03 AM
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I think you're thinking of me. I use G1's on my 8" and 10", G2's on my 12" and 13", and EC2's on everything below that. I find it work just right, short of having my very own Reference series kit...
I did this on my last sonor kit.

I think that I will do this again. I loved it on that kit.
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Mind to tell us WHY you hated them?
They really killed the tone of my drums. I was surprised. I bought a 12" head and slapped the sucker on there and it sounded terrible. I then put a coated G2 and it sang.
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Old 03-07-2007, 03:46 AM
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ARE THEY OUT YET?? They aren't on Evan's 'head diagram' ?
My store has some of them so they must be out. On the website it says they'll be out in the first quarter of this year.
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Old 03-08-2007, 05:36 AM
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Hello,

I like my G2 over G1 clear head combo on my starclassic performer. It just has a bit too much sustain and not quite enough punch. So close though. I really like the heads.

I have tried EC2s before and you might as well shoot the higher toms because it just kills the sound. Of course this is just my opinion. However, I tried these heads on my old maple sonor, not my birch tama.

Is there something that is just a bit punchier and focused but not dead out there. I guess it would be something between my G2 and old EC2s but probably closer to the G2s?

If you have any suggestions, I would appreciate it.

Thank you.

Mike
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I would suggest trying the EC2 on your Tama Birch. I love the EC2 on my Tama Starclassic Performer kit which is 100% Birch.
I had the G2 Clear and Coated over the years. The EC2 is very similar in feel with just the right amount of ring reduced.
Give them a shot.

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Old 03-08-2007, 07:14 PM
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They really killed the tone of my drums. I was surprised. I bought a 12" head and slapped the sucker on there and it sounded terrible. I then put a coated G2 and it sang.
WOW...that's really interesting , thanks for following up with that. By the way, thanks for answering mine too.....regarding their availability....

This point is interesting because.......the EC1 is 14 mm and the the G2 is 2 7mm's ...so....14 also.....It would seem that the EC1 would sing.....hhmmmmm

Thanks!
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: Something between G2 and EC2

I actually have the same problem with my tama starclassic performer (birch) because i want something between The G2 and EC2
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:48 PM
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hmmm... the only thing i can come up with is coated G2s, or G2s with some extra muffling

ps - you may want to try G2s (or what ever you figure out with this thread) on the high toms and keep EC2s on the low toms. i know there's someone on this board who does that, changing heads as the tom sizes change to give each tom the right sustain. its kind of like the pearl reference concept
I'd try this too. You may also want to try using EC2's on everything, but on the higher toms, using a thinner resonant head like a resonant glass, with the G1 on everything else.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:20 AM
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Could you not just tighten the reso heads a tad and kill some sustain?
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