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Old 10-18-2006, 09:39 AM
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I am just starting to listen to Danny's playing...I am curious...in the drum video what song is he playing with?
The one with Jeff Ocheltree and the bronze Paiste kit? It's "Lateralus" from the album of the same name.
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:13 AM
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Danny Carey is definatley one of my favorite drummers. He does really cool work the crazy time signatures that Too uses (like in Lateralus) and Schism is probably one of my favorite drum tracks. Really cool stuff, definately recommended to anyone and everyone.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:10 PM
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Question about DC's playing in 'H.'

I've read that DC plays snares off quite a bit and I can definitely hear it in many songs. But on Aenima especially his snare sounds so tight I think it almost sounds like he's got the snares on when he doesn't--it's hard to tell the difference.

I heard 'H.' on the radio today and noticed something. It always sounded to me like he's definitely playing snares off throughout the verses but when I listened closer it sounded like he switched it on everytime he plays it with a cymbal accent and then back off for the back beat, which, if you know the song, happens more and more as they build into the refrain, but again his snare sounds so similar to my ear regardless of whether the snares are on or not so I can't really tell. What do you think? If he is switching them on and off constantly, well then, he's now climbed even higher in my book, and he's already one of my current favorites.
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:22 AM
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I wouldn't doubt he plays some songs snare-off, but I doubt he switches them on and off in the same song. Its probably just how they mixed it...
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:21 AM
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that's interesting, i've never heard of anyone playing snare off with the snares really tight to make it sound like it's on. I'm going to listen to Tool more to check it out.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:01 PM
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Have you seen Tool live? Trust me, he flicks them on and off. There's no way you could mix it to sound like that, listen to The Grudge for example, right where the distorted guitars kick in with that rock type riff. Well smart.
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Old 11-01-2006, 03:16 PM
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I have a hazy memory of Danny saying somewhere he switches the snares on in the parts that need more power, or something along those lines.

This fella's certainly affected my playing a lot, and I'm really, really fond of his style of playing. Kinda grown up listening to it. A very unique player too!
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:24 PM
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Hi there,

well, Danny is the most outstanding drummer i've heard so far. Seemingly being beneath the music played by his bandmates i often wonder, how he keeps drumming in the middle of it all, building a foundation to the music he's surrounded by.
The new Tool 10.000 days stuff offers , once again, more of his weird kind of drumming, especially in 10.000 days, the second part of wings for marie.
I've read that some people find it much too weird and against the flow of the song, but i feel like they are just not able to feel how perfectly it fits.
It wouldn't be the music it is, if the drumpart was changed.
The question, if Danny flips the snare on and off in a song: he does. Definitely. I've seen him at the Rock am Ring in summer, and there's no question about it. In fact, he's not the only one to do so, look at dream theater's mike portnoy, who has his signature series snare built to this special technique.
I really hope that Danny will be carriying on like this, it's just overwhelming for me to hear him play.

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Old 12-02-2006, 02:08 PM
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I saw Tool at Nottingham Arena last night, first date I think of their current UK tour. Absolutely stunning. They put on the best live show I've ever seen I think, I saw them at Download back in June and while they were good it wasn't nearly as effective as it was seeing them in a large darkened room with all the graphics and lasers and stuff going on. Absolutely incredible.

As for Danny's drumming... about 3 songs in my mate, who's a guitarist, turned to me and said "he's a bit good on the ol' drums isn't he?". He was simply amazing to watch. Absolutely brilliant. So glad I went.

EDIT: Ha, I couldn't have been more wrong - it was the last date of the tour!!

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Old 12-02-2006, 05:06 PM
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How about that snare/tom groove he plays at around 2:15 in 'The Pot' when they're transitioning into the next verse. Just perfect.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:23 AM
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i saw TOOL at nottingham aswell, best gig ever! btw the mastodon drummer was pretty cool aswell, although their sound was a bit pants. in my opinion, danny carey is the best drummer in rock since bonham died. the way he integrates every different aspect of drumming to his playing is truly unique, and he has influenced me and alot of other players im sure. TOOL are (again in my opinion), the best band since zep. anyone doubting his skil or his prowess should check out mer-ka-ba.

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Old 12-05-2006, 11:38 AM
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I wouldn't go so far as to say best ever, but it was certainly a very very good show. I absolutely love the way Danny plays, it's amazing how inspirational that guy is, yet at the same time damning cos you know you'll never be better than him.

We missed most of Mastodon's set, only caught the last 4 or 5 songs, I really like Mastodon anyway, the latest album is absolutely fantastic, a true prog metal masterpiece.

As far as Merkaba goes, unless you download it, the only way you'll get it is on Salival, which is pretty expensive and fairly difficult to get hold of now. I got mine about a year ago, it's fantastic.

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Old 12-06-2006, 09:01 PM
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I wouldn't go so far as to say best ever, but it was certainly a very very good show. I absolutely love the way Danny plays, it's amazing how inspirational that guy is, yet at the same time damning cos you know you'll never be better than him.

We missed most of Mastodon's set, only caught the last 4 or 5 songs, I really like Mastodon anyway, the latest album is absolutely fantastic, a true prog metal masterpiece.

As far as Merkaba goes, unless you download it, the only way you'll get it is on Salival, which is pretty expensive and fairly difficult to get hold of now. I got mine about a year ago, it's fantastic.

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aye, salivial is expensive, but definately worth it, i discourage people from downloading tool music, as of the
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:09 PM
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aye, salivial is expensive, but definately worth it, i discourage people from downloading tool music, as of the
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I agree, Chris (my name is Chris too...), but I think Salival might be the only exception to that, because it's pretty hard to find, and if you do find it, if the seller know's what it is, it'll probably be expensive...all their other albums are somewhat easy to get, and priced "normally"...
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:10 AM
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I agree, Chris (my name is Chris too...), but I think Salival might be the only exception to that, because it's pretty hard to find, and if you do find it, if the seller know's what it is, it'll probably be expensive...all their other albums are somewhat easy to get, and priced "normally"...
some formats moreso than others - you seen how much aenima goes for on vinyl these days? shocking. i have a lateralus vinyl tho!! : ) sealed as well, never even had it out the shrinkwrap!
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:14 AM
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aye, salivial is expensive, but definately worth it, i discourage people from downloading tool music, as of the
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I would agree with that for the last two albums, but Aenima and Undertow and definitely Opiate, the artwork isn't really upto much on those. It's good, and it's pretty different, but in comparison to, say Lateralus and 10,000 Days, it's not quite up to scratch IMO. 10,000 Days is unlike any other artwork in my collection. Fantastic, so unique.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:10 AM
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I would agree with that for the last two albums, but Aenima and Undertow and definitely Opiate, the artwork isn't really upto much on those. It's good, and it's pretty different, but in comparison to, say Lateralus and 10,000 Days, it's not quite up to scratch IMO. 10,000 Days is unlike any other artwork in my collection. Fantastic, so unique.
Depending on when you bought your copy of Aenima you may have got the cool gimmicky animated CD case. They were cool...

But I have to say, as their music has got worse their album art has got increasingly ornate ;)

Salival is sort of worth getting, but only for the CD. And even then, there's only a couple of memorable tracks. No Quarter is cool, Third Eye live shows their precision and energy (but doesn't do anything to improve on the album version, really) and the live version of Pushit is something I'm still to be sold on. I think it's a great live track when you're in the middle of a few thousand sweaty people nearly passing out from lack of oxygen, but the album track serves the song better on CD, if you ask me.
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:47 AM
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Depending on when you bought your copy of Aenima you may have got the cool gimmicky animated CD case. They were cool...

But I have to say, as their music has got worse their album art has got increasingly ornate ;)

Salival is sort of worth getting, but only for the CD. And even then, there's only a couple of memorable tracks. No Quarter is cool, Third Eye live shows their precision and energy (but doesn't do anything to improve on the album version, really) and the live version of Pushit is something I'm still to be sold on. I think it's a great live track when you're in the middle of a few thousand sweaty people nearly passing out from lack of oxygen, but the album track serves the song better on CD, if you ask me.
I kind of agree but seeing Tool on stage now is nothing short of astonishing. I've never seen a stage show quite like it, absolutely amazing, they put on a proper "show" in the true sense of the word, there's so much going on you just don't know where to look. The tickets were expensive but in hindsight well worth it.

I think Salival is worth it for the DVD/ video whichever version you get. The videos are really cool if you're into that sort of thing, I personally have a big thing for stop motion animation and think the work Adam Jones does is nothing short of astonishing. He has to be good at something eh?
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:53 PM
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I kind of agree but seeing Tool on stage now is nothing short of astonishing. I've never seen a stage show quite like it, absolutely amazing, they put on a proper "show" in the true sense of the word, there's so much going on you just don't know where to look. The tickets were expensive but in hindsight well worth it.
I just can't be bothered anymore. I saw them in 1997, 2001 & 2002 and just gradually watched them decend from being a fantastic band to just having a fantastic show. In 1997 they were nothing short of astonishing live - Maynard had phenomenal stage presence, and the whole band were tearing the roof off the place. Come 2001/2002 they were just a bunch of boring guys hiding behind a giant array of screens showing dodgy CG...
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:43 PM
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i heard his playing is quite mathematical, sometimes his rhythms are based o nthe fibionacci sequence like his kit being arranged to make some strange symbol
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:13 AM
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i heard his playing is quite mathematical, sometimes his rhythms are based o nthe fibionacci sequence like his kit being arranged to make some strange symbol
They're a bit into that, but from what I've seen of their music it seems to just be a clever trick thing - you know, pick a bunch of numbers and then try to phrase around it musically. I don't think there's any actual musical value in using things that far out into the mathematical realm, any musicality that is there is something independent of that.

It's cute, but I don't think it's anything other than being a smart-arse. Mudvayne have demonstrated quite nicely that using "arcane number systems" (blah) doesn't make your music any less awful if you're not already good.

(you may be thinking of Maynard's vocal phrasing on the verse in Lateralus, BTW - the syllables are grouped together as 1 (black) 1 (and) 2 (white are) 3 (all I see) 5 (in my infancy) 8 (red and yellow then came to be) 5 (reaching out to me) 3 (helps me see) or something like that, which is a run up and down the first chunk of the fibonacci sequence: 0 1 1 2 3 5 8)
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Old 12-09-2006, 02:00 PM
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I just can't be bothered anymore. I saw them in 1997, 2001 & 2002 and just gradually watched them decend from being a fantastic band to just having a fantastic show. In 1997 they were nothing short of astonishing live - Maynard had phenomenal stage presence, and the whole band were tearing the roof off the place. Come 2001/2002 they were just a bunch of boring guys hiding behind a giant array of screens showing dodgy CG...
That's fair enough, for those of us who are only in our early 20's now we'd have been lucky to see them in 2001/2002 and definitely not before then. So I'm gonna stick by what I said, their show is fantastic, I thoroughly enjoyed it and I also thought they were among the best live bands I've seen. Mastodon were also excellent.
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Old 12-14-2006, 01:43 AM
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that's interesting, i've never heard of anyone playing snare off with the snares really tight to make it sound like it's on. I'm going to listen to Tool more to check it out.

i still find myself somewhat confused... how exactly does Danny configure his snare(s)? I also sing, so in my years as a Tool fan it was mainly because Maynard is probably my favorite male voice of all time, or at least in the rock/metal/pop genre. But as i have developed as a musician ive really taken in all aspects of their music and image, and Danny Carey's style has really intrigued me. I'd be curious to know if anyone knows for a fact his tuning/set-up techniques =]
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:59 AM
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It doesn't really sound as though his snares are on when they're not. If you listen to the recordings there's a distinct difference. The bit that really comes to mind where it's obvious is in "The Grudge" where it's first building up to go into that rock style riff that ends with Maynard singing "...and we're sinking deeper" or something along those lines, can't remember the exact lyric. I like the way he uses the snare as a dynamic in that sense, it sounds much softer and less aggressive then bam! it's there. Tool have an amazing way of building their songs from swirling, atmospheric riffs to rocky, hard guitar based music. Brilliance! I still think they're one of the best live bands, I can understand for someone who's been with them from Aenima they may be disappointing now but I picked them up from Lateralus and I love that style.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:10 AM
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It doesn't really sound as though his snares are on when they're not. If you listen to the recordings there's a distinct difference.
On pre-Aenima recordings and 10,000 Days his snare drum sounds very different snares on/off, but I think on Lateralus and especially Aenima, they sound quite similar.

Yes, there certainly is a difference, and perhaps as you listen more and more it becomes easier to tell, but I've never heard a snare drum that sounds that similar with the snares on and off, and perhaps it has something to do with the recording but still, it's closer than anything I've ever heard. It leads me to believe he really cranks those heads. I agree with you though, that it is a great effect when he does flip 'em on for a section, almost like slapping your car into 5th and flooring it on a straightaway.
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:49 AM
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anyone have any good videos uploaded of his playing? im having a hard time with YouTube...
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:25 PM
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sorry if this is somewhere else, but i cant find it,

does anyone know what danny carey's cymbal set up is with his jeff ocheltree kit, the one seen on the video on drummerworld.
all i can find is his current set up.
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:50 PM
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Indyke does some indepth analysis of Danny Carey and talks about Stravinsky and classical influences

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Old 12-28-2006, 12:28 AM
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sorry if this is somewhere else, but i cant find it,

does anyone know what danny carey's cymbal set up is with his jeff ocheltree kit, the one seen on the video on drummerworld.
all i can find is his current set up.
The setup on that video is a scaled down version of what he normally plays - see the lack of electronics? He's been playing those for over ten years now.
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Old 12-31-2006, 12:16 AM
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Danney carey is my all time favorite drummer. He has a style like know other. His abilaty to create is like that of god- for any religous people out there, that was an exageration not a slight against god, intent was not to offend- His skill and coordination is undeniably great. Tool for that matter is the most amazing and creative rock band out there, in my opinion of course.

By the way I did hear a bit of volto I tried to download but I do not know how to where I need to go to download volto, and I dont know how either. would any one be able to help me. I am severely computer challenged.
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I don't know if this has been posted on these boards already but there is this nice interview of Danny on The Drummer's Digest site:

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thanks for the link man. that bronze kit still fascinates me. HAVE to play one somewhere down the line, so beautiful.
Good interview as well...
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I don't know how people think that Tool has been on the downward slope from Aenima. In my mind Lateralus was their best album. Given that, they have only had one release since then (10k days)!

I'll admit that 10,000 days wasn't as good as Aenima and Lateralus, but it was still an awesome album. And I can't believe some people liked Opiate and Undertow better than 10,000 days.

As for the live show, I saw them two days ago in Sydney. They were nothing short of amazing - I don't know how they would have had a better live show 9 years ago.
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I had the privilege of seeing Tool last Sunday at Big Day Out. Even though it was an outdoor stage and nowhere near as big as the size stage they would be used to it was still an awesome show. I managed to get almost right up to the barrier, seeing a drummer such as Danny that close an unforgettable experience. The way he hits is just phenomenal; even when he is playing quietly his strokes still have such power behind them.

On his snare - I think in an interview with Danny’s drum tech he said that he has his snare head tuned really tight. If you notice in some photos he has a spare snare sitting behind his kit just in case he breaks the head on the edge of the snare. I guess playing those paiste snares doesn't help it too much.

He uses clear G2s over G1s on his toms and a power stroke on his snare. I'm not sure what bass heads he uses, but I know his reso head is a mesh of some sort; I was able to see through it when they played.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:36 PM
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I had the privilege of seeing Tool last Sunday at Big Day Out. Even though it was an outdoor stage and nowhere near as big as the size stage they would be used to it was still an awesome show. I managed to get almost right up to the barrier, seeing a drummer such as Danny that close an unforgettable experience. The way he hits is just phenomenal; even when he is playing quietly his strokes still have such power behind them.

On his snare - I think in an interview with Danny’s drum tech he said that he has his snare head tuned really tight. If you notice in some photos he has a spare snare sitting behind his kit just in case he breaks the head on the edge of the snare. I guess playing those paiste snares doesn't help it too much.

He uses clear G2s over G1s on his toms and a power stroke on his snare. I'm not sure what bass heads he uses, but I know his reso head is a mesh of some sort; I was able to see through it when they played.
He's on EC2's on his toms batter side now, I have something on one of the recent-ish Drummer magazines about it, I emailed the magazine to make sure. It's EQ3 Clear on the batter of the kick and a "Retro Screen" on the front head of the kick.
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:02 PM
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Danny is such a master at his style of music. It's to bad he couldnt find a better Tabla instructor, Aloke is definitely not one of the Tabla greats in the US right now. You would think Danny would want to take from the best......
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I can use 5 adjectives to refer to Danny Carey's playing. These adjectives would have to be polyrythmic, odd-time signatured, original, surpising and flawless. Enough said.
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:34 AM
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amazing drummer!!!
my favorite ones are from the aenima album: forty six and two, and third eye
incredible sound
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:07 PM
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amazing drummer!!!
my favorite ones are from the aenima album: forty six and two, and third eye
incredible sound
What about Stinkfist,thats a great song.
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