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Old 10-06-2006, 09:50 AM
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I'm pretty sure his drums are of the Designer series, and I think the finish could be African Bubinga?... heres a link to the Designer finishes... http://www.sonor.com/temp_FE/downloa...s_de-engl..pdf ...
Thanks for that. Anyone know anything about what sizes he uses? I know what heads he uses now cos I saw a pic where it showed Evans skins and I checked their website a few days ago, but I forget what skins he used now... I think it was an EMAD and clear G1's and G2's (reso and batter respectively) on toms. I know he uses a Sonor Artist Series Bronze Snare (retail on that is ridiculous!!) and Axis pedals and Pearl Hi Hat stands...

So I guess all I want now is drum sizes...

I want one of those Tama thrones...
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Old 10-06-2006, 11:38 AM
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The precise spec of Thomas' kit is available on the Toontrack Drumkit From Hell package which includes detailed samples of the kit played by the man himself, including some of his custom-made snare drums.

http://www.toontrack.com/superior.shtml

I'd have to fire up my copy to tell you exactly what's in there though. But if you want to play around with his drum kit then it's probably the best way to go..
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Old 10-07-2006, 09:57 AM
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[color="Red"]yeahh he's amazing man [/COLOR]
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Old 10-07-2006, 10:48 AM
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thanks cloggy.
vampirenightmchine, thomas reads this thread and your baseless drivel is not appreciated. be nice, use only english and be warned.
don't bash haake

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Hey Tomas if you read this you rule the metallic earth dude. How about a Cynic cover?
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Old 10-07-2006, 12:10 PM
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The precise spec of Thomas' kit is available on the Toontrack Drumkit From Hell package which includes detailed samples of the kit played by the man himself, including some of his custom-made snare drums.

http://www.toontrack.com/superior.shtml

I'd have to fire up my copy to tell you exactly what's in there though. But if you want to play around with his drum kit then it's probably the best way to go..
top man, cheers for that!!
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:46 AM
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Here are two video's of Haake at DrummerLive 2006. I found them here http://sabian.com/sabiantalk/forum/m...&enterthread=y (Sabian's page for DrummerLive 2006). The first video is 27 seconds long, Haake doing a soundcheck, playing a part from Catch 33 it sounds like, and the second video is 2:25 long, Haake playing what I think is Stengah... cool stuff...

http://198.164.252.203/video/drummer...tomashaake.wmv - Soundcheck
http://198.164.252.203/video/drummer...omashaake1.wmv - In Performance
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:04 AM
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Fantastic, thanks Cardan!
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:52 PM
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wow the clip it's exellent beautiful drum , i like the

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Old 10-11-2006, 04:46 AM
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Either way he's most likely going to have to learn the songs to play them live. I am pretty sure the real reason he didn't record the drums on Catch 33 was because of the Nuclear Blast contract. They have a certain number of cd's to be released in a certain amount of time, during the contract. From what I heard Tomas didn't have time to get them all down and they had to use a drum machine to get it done in time.

At least, that's what I heard and i'm pretty sure it's true. Correct me if i'm wrong...
yeah ur right and just in case some one didnt already know tomas used programed drums called the drumkit fom hell for this album
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:41 AM
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yeah ur right and just in case some one didnt already know tomas used programed drums called the drumkit fom hell for this album
I read an interview saying that they play a 13 minute excerpt from Catch 33 live, so he hasn't had to learn the entire record. Since each of the band members is competent at drum programming when they write riffs they write the drums as well. Jens even wrote some of Catch 33. IMO it's a well good album, "Shed" is a great tune.
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:48 PM
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Having been a Meshuggah fan since 2000, I can say without a doubt that it's not a matter of if Tomas Haake could have recorded the drums live on Catch 33. He can play all the drums on Catch 33 with no problem. It's just that Catch 33 was more of an expirimental album in the sense that it pretty much just flows for 40 minutes. So it made sense to program the drums so he didn't have to learn all of that. The fact that they don't play but 10 minutes or so from it also plays a factor.

It is the only Meshuggah album that has programed drums and I would guess it's the last. Or at least their next full length album will not have programed drums. It'll be Haake live in the studio again.
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Old 10-11-2006, 06:16 PM
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Having been a Meshuggah fan since 2000, I can say without a doubt that it's not a matter of if Tomas Haake could have recorded the drums live on Catch 33. He can play all the drums on Catch 33 with no problem. It's just that Catch 33 was more of an expirimental album in the sense that it pretty much just flows for 40 minutes. So it made sense to program the drums so he didn't have to learn all of that. The fact that they don't play but 10 minutes or so from it also plays a factor.

It is the only Meshuggah album that has programed drums and I would guess it's the last. Or at least their next full length album will not have programed drums. It'll be Haake live in the studio again.
Agreed. But doesn't "War" from Rare Trax have programmed drums too? Heh..

I assume you're the same mesh1324 from the Meshuggah forums?
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:29 PM
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Yes "War" is programed. But that song is simply insane and was made as a joke kinda I think.
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:46 PM
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Can someone give me a good example of Tomas Haake's playing abilities?
Because I've never heard enything from this dude...and he seems to be very popular around here.
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Old 10-13-2006, 09:34 AM
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Yes "War" is programed. But that song is simply insane and was made as a joke kinda I think.
It was done for Fredrik's 30th birthday according to the liner notes in Rare Trax but had different drums and vocals - the vocals consisted of mainly insults about Fredrik getting old.

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Old 10-13-2006, 09:36 AM
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Can someone give me a good example of Tomas Haake's playing abilities?
Because I've never heard enything from this dude...and he seems to be very popular around here.
Three tracks you could try:

"Concatenation", "Future Breed Machine" or "Stengah" are three of my personal favourites. If anyone else has any better suggestions fire em in, I'm on a Meshuggah binge right now so it's all amazing!
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:41 AM
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Can someone give me a good example of Tomas Haake's playing abilities?
Because I've never heard enything from this dude...and he seems to be very popular around here.
For double bass skills listen to the song New Millenium Cyanide Christ.

For all around skills listen to the song Soul Burn and Future Breed Machine.
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:53 PM
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For double bass skills listen to the song New Millenium Cyanide Christ.

For all around skills listen to the song Soul Burn and Future Breed Machine.
Seconded. I will get around to perfecting New Millennium Cyanide Christ sometime. Until then, I'm still trying to master the "chorus" type bit in Stengah... baffling timing galore!
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:55 PM
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I'm learning Elastic, it'll be the first Meshuggah song I've learned, and I'm planning to write out the whole song (up to 5:56 at least). I already have the first minute and a few seconds written, and I have a program on my computer called PowerDVD, which you can play video or audio at different speeds, 1/2, 1.5, 2, and 2.5x. So 1/2x is a major help in finding where the bass notes are...
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:45 AM
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I'm sure some of you know of this, but in case not, a Meshuggah re-release of their 2002 album, "Nothing", will be available on the 31st of October (Tuesday). It's re-mastered, with re-recorded guitar tracks, new art work with a custom slipcase (with a neat little 3-D holographic card), and bonus DVD material including 3 video's of them playing some songs live in 2005 (European tour...), 3 official music video's, and a "Mr. Kidman Delirium Version" of 'Rational Gaze'... I'll definetly be getting it, as I only downloaded the original Nothing...(but I bought all my others)...
Here's the link to the nuclearblastusa.com page... http://www.nuclearblastusa.com/bands...ng.deluxe.html

and the new cover...

pretty neat looking...
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:28 AM
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you MUST buy the original Nothing before the re-release is available as it probably won't be available afterwards, hence it being a rarity and also there's talk of them doing all the drums on Drumkit from Hell a la Catch 33 - some of the snare work on the original Nothing is amazing, not to mention the sound. Some of this, if not all, will probably be lost. Nothing is an amazing album anyway. I have pre-ordered my re-release from Amazon... can't wait for the dvd!! Especially since the vids of them playing live are at Download... if only I'd gone last year as well as this!
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:46 AM
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While I remember, I noticed Tomas has a set of roto tom frames on a remote hi hat... I'm intrigued. What song(s) does he use them on and also how do they sound? Do they have heads on? It must sound pretty weird. What sizes are they as well?

Cheers

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EDIT: I read somewhere they're called spoxe, as in Remo spoxe hi hats... any further info?! Anyone?

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Old 10-27-2006, 04:10 PM
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If anyone's interested I found this page...

http://www.halfmanhalfmachine.net/THaake_kitconfig.htm

May be of interest to some of you. How the hell do those spoxe hats sound? I honestly can't imagine them sounding like anything...
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:22 PM
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Anyone seen the DVD with the Nothing re-release yet? Amazing!!
Tomas is fantastic...
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:34 AM
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I have, altered! I got it about a week after it came out... I agree, I think its amazing, I watched each live one 3 times over...I think the "official music video" s are kind of cheesy though, I don't think the band even has much input in the idea's in the video, I think it's just that the nuclear-blast guys make stuff and see if the band thinks its ok...I loved the mr. kidman delirium version of rational gaze, I couldn't stop laughing! and of course the nmcc video is always a classic in my book...
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Old 11-10-2006, 11:42 AM
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i kinda like the music vids. i think the one for shed is a bit dodgy but the rational gaze one is smart and of course nmcc... awesomeness!!

that live version of straws pulled at random has made it one of my fav mesh songs
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Old 11-15-2006, 05:10 PM
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Some Meshuggah news on their record label's web site...

http://www.nuclearblast.de/news_inde...top=7&a_page=7

A new Meshuggah CD in spring of next year would be nice!

And HAAKE and LOVGREN are doing some Swedish clinics right now:

Nov. 15 - Örebro B-salen, Folkets hus, Gamla gatan 27
Nov. 16 - Karlskoga Musikhuset Vallmovägen.9
Nov. 22 - Göteborg Sticky Fingers
Nov. 24 - Borlänge
Nov. 25 - Gävle 15.00, Musikhuset/Sjömanskyrkan, St Esplanadgatan 1
Nov. 27 - Falköping Lilla Teatern, Dotorpsgatan 13
Nov. 28 - Motala
Nov. 30 - Stockholm 20.00, Street, Hornstulls Strand 9

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Old 11-16-2006, 09:13 PM
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New audio of TOMAS HAAKE from a clinic in Sweden yesterday Wednesday November, 15! Freakin sweet! Check it out! He truly is a master!

http://user.personal.fi/musiikki/tor...inic-part1.mp3

http://user.personal.fi/musiikki/tor...inic-part2.mp3

Post reviews please! I'd like to hear all of your thoughts!

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Old 11-16-2006, 11:05 PM
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Tomas Haake has always been one of my favorite drummers. Ever since I heard 'Chaosphere' I've tried to play along with his grooves. I wish he would just do a clinic in Dallas or Oklahoma City that I could try desperately to attend. I would like to hear him talk about how/what he practices to become that independent with his drumming.
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New audio of TOMAS HAAKE from a clinic in Sweden yesterday Wednesday November, 15! Freakin sweet! Check it out! He truly is a master!

http://user.personal.fi/musiikki/tor...inic-part1.mp3

http://user.personal.fi/musiikki/tor...inic-part2.mp3

Post reviews please! I'd like to hear all of your thoughts!
downloading now! hopefully its in english :)
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Old 11-17-2006, 12:31 AM
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Who ever recorded this told me they didn't record the entire clinic because he didn't have the record button on, and Tomas Haake did talk some to the audience in Swedish.

Hope you enjoyed it!
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:31 AM
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sounds really awesome to hear haake playing like this! great sound quality i think too...i really like how his drums sound, and those sabians sound good too, especially the ride...love it, thanks a lot to whoever recorded and uploaded these! and i'm waiting for more news on the possible meshuggah album expected for 2007 sometime...cool stuff!
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:53 AM
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That's a great drum take, especially given the ever popular "can we hear him do something besides metal?"
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:39 PM
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sounds really awesome to hear haake playing like this! great sound quality i think too...i really like how his drums sound, and those sabians sound good too, especially the ride...love it, thanks a lot to whoever recorded and uploaded these! and i'm waiting for more news on the possible meshuggah album expected for 2007 sometime...cool stuff!
Here is news about the next Meshuggah album on their record label's webs site...

http://www.nuclearblast.de/news_inde...top=7&a_page=7
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Old 11-18-2006, 03:26 AM
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Thereīs no doubt that he is one of the most creative drummers in the planet. His sense of odd-timing is so huge. And oh YEAH he makes the drums sound awesome

Are you guys sure that thereīll be a new album comming on spring 2007?
Iīm not saying that itīs impossible but they just re-recorded nothing (Better than the other nothing ;) )
Arenīt they tiered?
Iīde love to have a new album from them soon, all of them are so welcomed in my ears ;)
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There´s no doubt that he is one of the most creative drummers in the planet. His sense of odd-timing is so huge. And oh YEAH he makes the drums sound awesome

Are you guys sure that there´ll be a new album comming on spring 2007?
I´m not saying that it´s impossible but they just re-recorded nothing (Better than the other nothing ;) )
Aren´t they tiered?
I´de love to have a new album from them soon, all of them are so welcomed in my ears ;)
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I don't have the link to hand so I will post back later or tomorrow, of an audio interview with Marten Hagstrom of Meshuggah saying that they're hoping to have the new album out late spring. FYI they didn't "re-record" Nothing, they re-recorded the guitars. Well, actually, Fredrik re-recorded the guitars and triggered drum sounds from Drumkit from Hell for the snare, toms and kick. The drums in re-Nothing sound a lot more flat and cold (a la Catch 33, where they sound awesome cos it fits with the music) but because we know what they're capable of from the original Nothing the drums sound arse on re-Nothing. The guitars, however, sound top on re-Nothing, definitely a massive improvement.

Plus they've been in "writing mode" for some time now and I assume it will continue that way right through to their recording. I am anxious for new material. I have heard rumours that they are playing Download in the UK next year. Chris Adler from Lamb of God told me LOG were playing and someone else told me Mastodon and Meshuggah are rumoured too. I will be going for the weekend if that's the case!!

If anyone knows where I can get Psykisk Testbild, Contradictions Collapse on vinyl and the American version of SelfCaged and the promo of Destroy Erase Improve please PM me - these are all I need to finish my collection. I think.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:04 AM
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Good clips, I wish we could get an English translation for the first one, "snackar cymbaler", I'd love to hear what he says about those stacks...
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Mega!! Nice one. Were they done on a mobile phone hence the short length of the clips?
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:00 PM
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Mega!! Nice one. Were they done on a mobile phone hence the short length of the clips?
I guess so. I don't really know. I didn't record it. I just found these on youtube.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:52 AM
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Haake: /.../ It's big cymbals...
Dude: You have removed the splash cymbals.
Haake: Yeah, I did dork around with those for a while. I mean... Seriously!
(laughter)
Haake: So I remember that for a while I had it all packed up here. It was nothing but splashes on a long row. Four of 'em hanging like this. Some kind of sandwich design. I don't feel... they don't belong there anymore. I'm not interested in those sounds anymore. Plus, it's hard to get any balance. When you have these large crashes it's hard to get any balance soundwise. It's not really what I'm looking for anymore. I thought it was cool. So now I have some splashes that lie... they're lying safe where they are. They don't have to be afraid of being used anytime soon... I don't think. And the reason why I use so large cymbals is because I kinda like dark long sounds. *pchhh* So it sustains for a while.
Ehm... the only reason for me having such an awfully small thing as an 18" or 19" is because you have to have atleast some cymbal that you can grab/stop. Otherwise I would rather just have 23" all the way. But if you're trying to grab a 22" it just *piiiiiing* ... it makes that sound and then your arm resonates the rest of the week. That's why I have one of these that you can (shows) silence pretty fast. But it's not just because of the sound... it's also so they won't wobble as much. Earlier I had small crash cymbals. Then I would sometimes be forced to "hunt after" the crash. I don't want to thighten them so they sit too tight, but I like them to hang freely like that. But then it can be... they wobble so much... so it's not hanging where it should when you want to hit it. It's much more comfortable with big crashes... they are not super wobbly like that. It's easier to mic those since they're less wobbly. In a studio it easily happens that you have a cymbal that fly around exceptionally much.. and these do that sometimes also. So sometimes it happens that you hear a cymbal go *wischwhshh* ... it sounds like that in the mics. That's not so funny. It depends on how you put up the mics in the studio also. bla bla More questions?
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