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Old 01-03-2018, 12:40 PM
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Default Mini 20" kick kit

Hi forum!

I've been wanting a smaller kit for convenience and snappy sound, but I'm not a fan of 18" kicks.

Then I saw this kit and it's just the cutest thing IMO:

https://www.thomann.de/se/tama_silve...ge_ltd.blo.htm

Anyone know of any other kits in the same format?
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Mini 20" kick kit

There's a lot of offerings for compact nowadays. Been through the same thought process over the last few months. Got sick of carrying expensive and vintage stuff around.

A 20" bass drum is the equivalent of a 28" when it comes to compact kits. Here's what's on offer:

* Ludwig breakbeats
* Pearl Midtown (Mine)
* Tama silverstar
* DW frequent flyer
* PDP New Yorker
* DW Mini Pro
* Sakae Pac d
* Yamaha Hipgig
* Odery Café Kit

There's more that I can't think of off the top of my head.

Bass drum risers make the little bass drums usable.

If you have drum mics they're all capable of playing any size venue. A good snare a cymbals is all you need.
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Thanks for the input!

Hm, seems like the Tama kit I linked to is pretty much the only offering out there with a 20" kick. Looks like it may even be nestable. Even though it looks somewhat like a children's kit, I believe it may beat most of the 18" kits in terms of de facto stage real estate needed.

The kit will be mostly for unmiked acoustic pub gigs and maybe house parties.
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The Premier Artist Club kit has a shallow 20" kick with 10 and 13 toms.
The DW Frequent Flyer has a 20x12 with 12 and 14 shallow toms.
The Tama is the latest one I've seen with this configuration. i wish th ebass drum hoops matched the drum though.

I suspect the first kit of this type was the Pearl Rhythm Traveller, although it has very shallow concert tomes and is more of a practice kit.

I have a Rhythm Traveller, and the shallow 20" bass is the best sounding drum in that kit. A very useful size.
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The Premier Artist Club kit has a shallow 20" kick with 10 and 13 toms.
The DW Frequent Flyer has a 20x12 with 12 and 14 shallow toms.
The Tama is the latest one I've seen with this configuration. i wish th ebass drum hoops matched the drum though.

I suspect the first kit of this type was the Pearl Rhythm Traveller, although it has very shallow concert tomes and is more of a practice kit.

I have a Rhythm Traveller, and the shallow 20" bass is the best sounding drum in that kit. A very useful size.
Allright thanks! Can't seem to find any other super-shallow 20" kicks on the Thomann webstore though!
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:38 PM
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The DW frequent flyer and mini pro are on Thomann.

I came close to getting a frequent flyer but the price put me off. I'd pay the extra couple hundred quid and get a full size DW design kit. My idea of a compact kit is that it's cheap and functional. If I was gonna spend the money an 18" BOP setup would be the way forward.

I have the Pearl Midtown, £350. Looks like a kids kit and was probably designed as one but with the bass drum riser it plays like a full kit. Had one of the band play it on New Years Eve and it sounds great out front.

Any of the compact kits are perfect for pub gigs, house parties and acoustic gigs. Word of warning they are a lot louder than they look!
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Old 01-03-2018, 04:13 PM
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Sonor Player Kit has a 20x12, and gets good reviews everywhere. I didn't get it because I didn't want the 10x8 tom. If I am only gonna have one rack tom then 10x8 is way too small.

Lots of great 20x14 kicks out there. And 20x16. All of those are about as portable as a narrow 20".

My practice/ outdoor busking kick is a Farmer 20x8. Kellner maple shell. Finished very well and sounds excellent.
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There are a coupe of funky Pork Pie kits on evilbay right now.



https://m.ebay.com/itm/Pork-Pie-USA-...AAAOSwl9RaM4ov
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Although I use 18x14 and 20x14 on a regular basis, I love these short 20" bass drum kits like this Tama and the DW Frequent Flyer. I would totally use that. Takes up way less space on the bandstand and probably sounds better than any 16x14 bass drum that's on these Breakbeats style kits. For small kits it's the way to go IMO.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: Mini 20" kick kit

I have the classic original black Pearl Rhythm Traveler and love it...
I have put Emperors on all 3 toms, Evans 360 on snare, PS3 bass drum batter and "Pearl logo'd" front reso (with EQ ring).
I rehearse with a 20-piece big band with this kit and also play lighter jazz gigs live - no mic'ing.
The bonus is just 3 trips to the car!!!!
BUT - if you get one of these kits PLEASE get rid of the bolt-on tom fittings and replace them with Pearl ISS mounts or similar - the difference is massive.

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Old 03-08-2018, 12:31 PM
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Pearl Roadshow Jazz is very compact - but with an 18" bass drum.

I play it, and I LOVE it. Price can't be beat.

It came with 10 and 14" toms, but I found 12" toms from the same series on eBay, so it's now a 12/14/18. For me - those are the Perfect sizes. Sounds great, and light and easy to move.
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Something to consider regarding nesting kits. I had two sets. A Yamaha Al Foster hipgig and a custom made kit with a 20x14 bass drum.

Yes, they do breakdown and fit in one case but they can be damn heavy, also the taking apart and packing up takes time too. I also like having a mic mounted in the kick so that killed any nesting regarding the bass drum.

I just picked up a used Gretsch Catalina Bop kit 18,12,14 sound great and easy to transport too. And cheap :-)
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Premier Artist Club kit isn't manufactured anymore. Premier is kinda gone poof.

Tama has a new offering the Club Jam. The kick hoops look killer, and I dig the natural finish version of shell finish and the contrast with kick hoops. 18x12 kick and 13x5 snare. Plus it has a vintage-style kick drum cymbal mount. I may get one and use for small gigs and street busking and just use kick and snare with hi-hats and cymbal mounted on kick. I might also use the tom mount on kick with a cymbal tube since it's 1" diameter and then be able to get crash and ride mounted on kick and no cymbal stands on floor required.

http://www.tama.com/product/kit_conf...ear=2018&id=40
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Lordy, that grain looks awesome!!!
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Default Re: Mini 20" kick kit

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My idea of a compact kit is that it's cheap and functional.

I have the Pearl Midtown, £350. Looks like a kids kit and was probably designed as one but with the bass drum riser it plays like a full kit. Had one of the band play it on New Years Eve and it sounds great out front.

Any of the compact kits are perfect for pub gigs, house parties and acoustic gigs. Word of warning they are a lot louder than they look!
+1 to that. I have a Breakbeats kit. With a decent snare and cymbals it is all I need for small gigs.
The kick in particular sounds surprisingly deep for a 16". Here's a recent example: https://youtu.be/juGzheC2NLY

As mikyok said, there are lots of great options for compact kits out there.
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