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Old 02-28-2018, 07:16 PM
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Default St Anger snare, or lid of a trash can?

We all know that infamous snare sound on Metallica​'s St Anger album. Personally, I think this garbage can lid sounds better. Now, i'm not knocking Lars, because a lot of people already do. But, that snare sound is just atrocious... Thoughts, questions, concerns?

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Old 02-28-2018, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: St Anger snare, or lid of a trash can?

tough contest but I do actually think the original snare is better
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: St Anger snare, or lid of a trash can?

The trash can sounds better than I thought it would. It's a great idea if you ever forget to bring your snare drum to the gig..........

(It can also be used to carry your hardware to and from the gig)



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Old 02-28-2018, 08:29 PM
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The trash can sounds better than I thought it would. It's a great idea if you ever forget to bring your snare drum to the gig..........

(It can also be used to carry your hardware to and from the gig)



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I was quite surprised with how I got it to sound. You can buy many of these for the price of one snare.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:59 PM
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Was that the crazy diamond plate thing?

I'm sure that sound works for someone out there; it's just not gonna be me.
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:24 PM
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Was that the crazy diamond plate thing?

I'm sure that sound works for someone out there; it's just not gonna be me.
The diamond plate thing in the background?
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: St Anger snare, or lid of a trash can?

I just wish my arms were that long . I feel like I'm riding mine instead of sitting behind it. #shortpeople
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:46 PM
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Oh wow thats wild man
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:08 PM
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I think 2 moon gel at 180 degrees woild make it perfect
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The diamond plate thing in the background?
No, this...


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Old 03-01-2018, 12:35 AM
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No, this...


Lars Ulrich Signature Snare - $949.99 CAD
Aluminum Garbage Can - $30 CAD

Getting a 30 dollar snare to sound better than the one on the St Anger Album = Priceless.
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Old 03-01-2018, 03:21 AM
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Have you tried a metal folding chair? There was a video out when St. Anger came out, and the guy nailed the snare drum tone with a mic'd metal folding chair.
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Old 03-01-2018, 03:47 PM
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Have you tried a metal folding chair? There was a video out when St. Anger came out, and the guy nailed the snare drum tone with a mic'd metal folding chair.
Amazing, i'm going to look for that shortly. Thanks for the heads up!
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Take the handle off a saucepan and put that on a snare stand.

They come in different materials, widths and depths too so that's one over the Lars snare.

Plus you can flip in over and cook in it.
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I can't believe how good the trash can lid sounds.

I must be the only person in the world who liked the St. Anger snare sound. It's obnoxious, but angry music is allowed to sound obnoxious. I think the hatred for it has a lot to do with the fact it's Metallica, with all the expectations that go along with that. Not to mention their role in the whole Napster thing and the change in musical direction their fans hated.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:53 PM
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Take the handle off a saucepan and put that on a snare stand.

They come in different materials, widths and depths too so that's one over the Lars snare.

Plus you can flip in over and cook in it.
The handle is half off now. Maybe it'll make a return in the next month. As for the snare stand, it is in fact on a snare stand. I opened the basket up all the way, and it sat in there perfectly!
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:54 PM
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I can't believe how good the trash can lid sounds.

I must be the only person in the world who liked the St. Anger snare sound. It's obnoxious, but angry music is allowed to sound obnoxious. I think the hatred for it has a lot to do with the fact it's Metallica, with all the expectations that go along with that. Not to mention their role in the whole Napster thing and the change in musical direction their fans hated.
Most definitely hit the nail on the head with that one. There's always bashing online about Lars' playing, and i'm not trying to add to that. Just simply having some fun! People seem to love it, it's been shared 310 times!
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:32 AM
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I just noticed, every one of your threads links to your YouTube channel, and every one of your posts is on your own threads.

Just an observation.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:41 AM
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I just noticed, every one of your threads links to your YouTube channel, and every one of your posts is on your own threads.

Just an observation.
Yea, he's got a clear goal of driving youtube hits, but at least he does come back to discuss when people post as opposed to the post and run crap.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:45 AM
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Yea, he's got a clear goal of driving youtube hits, but at least he does come back to discuss when people post as opposed to the post and run crap.
True. Just an observation, really. Carry on! lol
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:49 AM
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True. Just an observation, really. Carry on! lol
There's an outside chance that these should be in the your playing section, but the way he phrases the hook questions skirt the line. Not really a problem for me at any rate, it's easy for me to just discuss without clicking the links in most cases. I think this is the first one I've clicked actually.
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I just noticed, every one of your threads links to your YouTube channel, and every one of your posts is on your own threads.

Just an observation.
Jared Faulk was also from Canada.
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Jared Faulk was also from Canada.
Ah. It's a Canuck thing. Now there's an observation. lol (JK! Seriously. I'm just kidding. I love Canada, eh?)
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But, that snare sound is just atrocious...
That whole album sounds horrible, and that's without even mentioning the songs themselves.

The trash can lid performed admirably for sure.
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Old 03-02-2018, 02:52 PM
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In all fairness the Lars snare is actually an excellent drum. I used it on the last recording I did at the behest of the producer, and it sounds great. Nice deep tone with an excellent crack. A very articulate snare. The St Anger snare sound was his attempt to copy the Chris Adler snare tone from As the Palaces Burn. Unfortunately he used this big, open, steel shelled drum and ended up with the "boing" we all know and hate. They though it sounded modern, somebody should have told them it sounded like S*!t. But that miscalculation is definitely not the fault of the snare.
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I like the sound, didn't bother me.
Different? Yes.
Different for Metallica? Hell Yes!

But I heard dozens of other singles hit the radio and metal albums drop AFTER St. Anger that copied that snare sound, and no one bitched.

I stand by the statements I made when this album first came out.
If ANY other metal band, that was not already established as iconic, had put out this identical album it would have been a massive hit. But because it was Metallica, and they recently got flack for all the Napster stuff, people shit on them. Especially Lars, who was the spokesperson for the Napster lawsuit.

... and BTW, HE WAS RIGHT!

St. Anger came out in 2003, it's been 15 years, give it a rest...
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Old 03-03-2018, 02:56 AM
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Sorry eh, i'll try and be more active in other posts. 👊
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Sorry eh, i'll try and be more active in other posts. 👊
Right on. That's even better then.

You'll need to be able to take a canada joke here and there, but you're no worse off than the Aussies here who have to deal with the drop-bear personal encounter stories; or us yanks with the leadership that isn't at all embarrassing on a literal global scale.
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Good on you, man. That would be great!

Plus, you can be thankful the drop bears hate the cold. :)
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Bahahah i have never heard st. anger (i find metallica extremely boring) but i swear i think that garbage can lid does sound better.. crackin me up :)
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But I heard dozens of other singles hit the radio and metal albums drop AFTER St. Anger that copied that snare sound, and no one bitched.
Ok. Im going to call you out on this! I cannot think of any other song with that bad of a snare tone put that high in the mix. Lars was going for a specific tone that does exist in a certain genre of music, but he missed the mark by a mile.
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I can't believe how good the trash can lid sounds.

I must be the only person in the world who liked the St. Anger snare sound. It's obnoxious, but angry music is allowed to sound obnoxious.
You're not the only one. I liked his kick sound on Justice too. They both just fit the music well.
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