DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > Drum Technique

Drum Technique Tips - Tricks - Practice - Rudiments - Educational DVDs & Books.....

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-16-2018, 08:10 PM
evilash1996 evilash1996 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 7
Default Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Check out how Joe Morello ends the song in this clip its really neat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og1egjdvgko

How exactly is he doing that?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-16-2018, 08:42 PM
brentcn brentcn is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,709
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

He does the same thing here at 2:51. But here it's only with one hand on the snare, not both hands. After stick has buzzed a bit, he plays a bass drum note.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-16-2018, 08:56 PM
evilash1996 evilash1996 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 7
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

He makes it seem so easy but it's hard to do that cleanly. I guess practice makes perfect as always.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-16-2018, 09:24 PM
cerendrad's Avatar
cerendrad cerendrad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 90
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Wow, the guy on the piano was shredding. Classical music is old timey metal.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-16-2018, 09:49 PM
Dr_Watso's Avatar
Dr_Watso Dr_Watso is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,516
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

I think he was just using the friction from his hands sliding down the stick to create a slight sort of buzz sound, then hitting the drums with his fist at the bottom... Re-enforced by the bass drum note.
__________________
"I always wanted to be remembered for; being honest. Nothing else is worth a damn." - Lemmy
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-16-2018, 10:44 PM
blinky's Avatar
blinky blinky is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 381
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerendrad View Post
Wow, the guy on the piano was shredding. Classical music is old timey metal.
The guy on piano is Dave Brubeck, Keith, Emerson did a cover of his "Blue Rondo a la Turk" and that was as much metal as you could get in -67. :)
__________________
I think, therefore I am, I think...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-16-2018, 11:07 PM
MrPockets's Avatar
MrPockets MrPockets is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,065
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Watso View Post
I think he was just using the friction from his hands sliding down the stick to create a slight sort of buzz sound, then hitting the drums with his fist at the bottom... Re-enforced by the bass drum note.
You and I are in agreement on the situation.
__________________
Drum is fum
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-16-2018, 11:43 PM
Dr_Watso's Avatar
Dr_Watso Dr_Watso is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,516
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPockets View Post
You and I are in agreement on the situation.
Really? How could you know without discussing it that I think he's a huge dork and should stop calling himself that?
__________________
"I always wanted to be remembered for; being honest. Nothing else is worth a damn." - Lemmy
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-17-2018, 07:07 AM
Mr. Compactness Mr. Compactness is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 166
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

He's just dropping the stick onto the head and letting it bounce while sliding his hand to the bottom of the stick.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-17-2018, 07:15 PM
J-Boogie J-Boogie is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,098
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

The docs gotta silly side, I likes it! GTL baby, ugh I knew that.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-19-2018, 02:51 PM
Icetech's Avatar
Icetech Icetech is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,117
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

To the OP. if you right click on youtube videos there is an option to "copy url at current time" so it will go right to the time you want (just posting that in case he didn't know)

Also.. checked out ELP's blue rondo.. and jesus.. somethings shouldn't happen.. but that's all opinion of course.. while i can appreciate elp as musicians i don't get most of the prog sound..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLhSr_b4Bb0
__________________
He boiled for my sins...
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-19-2018, 04:09 PM
GetAgrippa's Avatar
GetAgrippa GetAgrippa is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: U.S.
Posts: 2,930
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

I agree with Doc he is using the friction of his hand on the stick to chatter the stick on the drum head-much like stridulations of bess beetles and crickets. Sounds really cool though
__________________
"I roll to the tune of a different drummer ;) "
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-19-2018, 06:31 PM
GetAgrippa's Avatar
GetAgrippa GetAgrippa is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: U.S.
Posts: 2,930
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Well just tried it-not enough friction for what I was saying. If you just drop it-it bounces a few times, but if you channel and move your hand down the shaft tightening up a bit then it does buzz it like a jack hammer. It took me a few times experimenting but I was able to do it-just not consistent yet. I like to play a stick and brush for quiet stuff and this would be neat lil addition. You don't have to slam your fist-but the bass note finale really makes it.
__________________
"I roll to the tune of a different drummer ;) "
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-19-2018, 06:59 PM
IDDrummer's Avatar
IDDrummer IDDrummer is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Posts: 5,163
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Not exactly on topic, but this thread reminded me how much I love Morello's playing. Not to start a debate, but I'd rather listen to him than Buddy, anytime. Just a matter of taste.

And now, ON topic, I tried this on my practice pad, and it takes a bit to get the friction just right, but you can even get it to buzz on the pad. Pretty cool, if somewhat of a novelty.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-19-2018, 08:57 PM
MrPockets's Avatar
MrPockets MrPockets is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,065
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by IDDrummer View Post
Not exactly on topic, but this thread reminded me how much I love Morello's playing. Not to start a debate, but I'd rather listen to him than Buddy, anytime. Just a matter of taste.
Did Buddy even play small group jazz?
__________________
Drum is fum
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-19-2018, 09:51 PM
IDDrummer's Avatar
IDDrummer IDDrummer is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Posts: 5,163
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPockets View Post
Did Buddy even play small group jazz?
Not that I'm aware of, but I honestly don't know. I just like Morello's sound, phrasing, and presentation. I know it isn't an apples to apples comparison.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-19-2018, 10:15 PM
newoldie's Avatar
newoldie newoldie is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 671
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Watching JM is incredible.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-20-2018, 02:22 AM
evilash1996 evilash1996 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 7
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Icetech View Post
To the OP. if you right click on youtube videos there is an option to "copy url at current time" so it will go right to the time you want (just posting that in case he didn't know)

Also.. checked out ELP's blue rondo.. and jesus.. somethings shouldn't happen.. but that's all opinion of course.. while i can appreciate elp as musicians i don't get most of the prog sound..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLhSr_b4Bb0
I am aware of that trick, but I felt that video was so good it deserves a full watch! Morello's playing in that video is phenomenal.
__________________
- Mario
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-20-2018, 03:23 AM
cerendrad's Avatar
cerendrad cerendrad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 90
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by blinky View Post
The guy on piano is Dave Brubeck, Keith, Emerson did a cover of his "Blue Rondo a la Turk" and that was as much metal as you could get in -67. :)
I looked it up. You are correct. That was great, but now I have to look up that Paul Desmond guy on the sax, he was amazing too.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-21-2018, 06:03 AM
mrfingers's Avatar
mrfingers mrfingers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: pennsylvania
Posts: 358
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GetAgrippa View Post
I agree with Doc he is using the friction of his hand on the stick to chatter the stick on the drum head-much like stridulations of bess beetles and crickets. Sounds really cool though
Just make sure that you don't use "old" beat up, splintery sticks or you'll be picking splinters from your hand for weeks.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-21-2018, 07:11 AM
JohnW JohnW is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rockport, MA USA
Posts: 861
Default Re: Can someone explain this Joe Morello technique to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPockets View Post
Did Buddy even play small group jazz?
Yup. I could listen to his brushes all day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4QXUDynXrw

He could be exceptionally subtle when he wanted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OQuMecYOn4
__________________
-John W

National Association of Rudimental Drummers
(N.A.R.D.) Member, No. 10078
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com