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Old 03-18-2017, 05:34 AM
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I recently saw an old 14x16" floor tom advertised where they had to carefully explain that it was a 16" deep tom, 14" diameter.

Also - I'm intrigued by the mixture of units when we say a 12" drum has 5.5mm thick shells. Then there are those who mix up mils and mm. A 5mm thick snare head would be almost a quarter inch thick.
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:39 AM
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Standards are good, as are conventions. I vote all internet traffic should be on the left though.

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Old 03-26-2017, 05:19 PM
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We are the drummers, we say how drum size listings are written.

I Like Diameter X Depth. As stated above Diameter is most important because of the variety of depth from different manufacturers.

I say, That WE entire drumming community just decide Right Here & Right Now To only used Diameter X Depth. And that's how drum size listings will become.

WE DECIDE WHAT THE STANDARD WILL BE !!!!!

Diameter X Depth FOREVER !!!!!
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:58 PM
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The 'American' standard is depth then diameter. Not the rest of the world. Same thing happens with metric weights, length, volume, temperature, dates, etc.
Us Yanks are terrible with weights and measures. I've been advocating for the metric system here for years, and meet nothing but resistance. Frustrating as hell.
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:42 PM
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As a kid in school during the 1970's we were forced to learn the Metric system. Not dor the sake of merely increasing our measuring abilities, rather it was explained to us that it would definitely be used exclusively in the USA in the following years. That took off like a lead balloon.

PS I just bought a 8x10 tom. Wonder what size head it takes...
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:49 PM
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I spell it out as there is no longer a standard. I found out at NAMM this year that even different drum manufacturers vary on the description.

I found this out the hard way when I try and describe my cannon kick bass drum.
It's a 22" (dia.) x 20" (deep) shell.
I've actually had other drummers ask why I have a 22" deep shell.
Really?

No one gets it, so I'm forced to spell it out for them.
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Old 02-11-2018, 04:11 AM
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There is a common use to standards, as well. Mechanics might refer to a bolt as a 13, meaning the head size, the size of wrench needed to remove, and also the clearest way to identify the bolt. In the parts store it's a 8mm X 20mm. Other industries also adapt names and standards.

Guitarist call strings 10s, or 11s, but not 900 x 10.

I say use what makes the most sense for the task over the dictionary definition. For drums, dia x depth, though a lot of times you don't see depth even listed, which strikes me as false disinterest, and mildly annoying.
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Old 02-11-2018, 04:26 AM
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If square power toms come back into style then we wouldn't have to worry about all this nonsense...
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The dangers of mixing up depth and diameter when ordering your new kit.
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Old 02-12-2018, 07:41 PM
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I do depth x diameter. Often times, I'll follow it up with "(depth x dia)" so everyone's on the same page.
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The dangers of mixing up depth and diameter when ordering your new kit.
I don't see anything wrong here.

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Old 02-12-2018, 09:09 PM
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The standard is H X D, but I hate it.

A 12" dia. tom could be anywhere from 7" to 12" but they ALL USE 12" HEADS!! That is the most important dimension, IMO.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:12 PM
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The dangers of mixing up depth and diameter when ordering your new kit.
OMG. You'd have to have a cargo van to schlep that thing around!

Maybe just one up, one down, and one bass for be bop gigs. :-)
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:33 PM
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I dont think there is an international standard. American seems to prefer depth x diameter. I'm French, the logic to me would be to start by the diameter since diameter "speaks", you either want a fusion 20 10 12 14 or a rock 22 12 13 16.
The only exception would be for snare since 80% are 14".
Depth matters of course but I'm sure if you ask the depth of their drums to working drummers, 50% of them won't be sure or won't know at all ! I take the bet.

For screws: first diameter, then length.
For tyres we start by the width then height then diameter. ;-) reverse ! But we start by what matters the most.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:37 PM
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I have always used diameter first since that is the way we buy heads. Tell me you have a 6.5 x 14 snare and I'm thinking Roto Tom. If you go into a music store and ask for a 14 inch head they aren't going to ask, Yeah, but what Diameter?
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The dangers of mixing up depth and diameter when ordering your new kit.
I think there is a true story of a guy ordering a SONOR SQ2 with long depths x short diameter, misunderstanding between standards.
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