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Old 05-29-2010, 01:29 AM
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:18 PM
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Everybody knows who Ringo is but I had never heard of BP till some time after I got into drumming and I was searching utube for inspiration.
I immediately saw the genius in this drummer and one has to wander why such a great drummer is not well known.
First of all I think only drummers know the name of great drummers. The general public will only know the singer or the lead guitar player at best.
Ringo was a special case because he was a member of the Beatles.
I knew of him from always and I as many others would be shocked to find out that he was not as good of a drummer as the legend built around him would indicate and the myth of the Beatles would be hurt (record sales).That is why it has to be kept secret and Purdy made to look like a fool for even insinuating that he was used in some of the Beatles songs.
For me it does not really matter. Purdy is awesome and unfortunately for him he was not a cute young man from Liverpool.
Funny, the only reason I know of Liverpool is because of the Beatles.
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More Purdie awesomeness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCyRPCojb2Q

Here's an interesting thing from Wikipedia about BP's claims of being a hidden Beatle - I hadn't seen this before:
In the same year original Beatles drummer Pete Best and guitarist Tony Sheridan recorded tracks in Hamburg with the Beatles. Later Bernard Purdie added drum overdubs to tracks from these sessions,[6] including "Ain't She Sweet", "Take Out Some Insurance on Me Baby" and "Sweet Georgia Brown".[7] The main reason for this was to give them a punchier sound for the US market. These tracks were eventually released on January 31, 1964 by Polydor.[8] Ringo Starr's physical approach to drumming was probably influenced by Purdie's Motown style.[9]
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:37 PM
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Here's an interesting thing from Wikipedia about BP's claims of being a hidden Beatle - I hadn't seen this before:
In the same year original Beatles drummer Pete Best and guitarist Tony Sheridan recorded tracks in Hamburg with the Beatles. Later Bernard Purdie added drum overdubs to tracks from these sessions,[6] including "Ain't She Sweet", "Take Out Some Insurance on Me Baby" and "Sweet Georgia Brown".[7] The main reason for this was to give them a punchier sound for the US market. These tracks were eventually released on January 31, 1964 by Polydor.[8]
If this is true, then it seems both sides would be right.

Purdie would be right that he played on some Beatles tracks, and then was paid to keep shut about it, but Beatles fans would be correct that Purdie never replaced Ringo on anything, because those tracks were recorded BEFORE Ringo joined the band, but were only over-dubbed and released to the public AFTER Ringo joined.
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:36 PM
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Listen to Pretty Purdie playing the 16th note shuffle and watch his left foot closely.
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Thoughts about learning the Purdie Half-Time Shuffle accompanied by a transcription and MP3:

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Old 09-02-2012, 07:38 PM
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Just saw Bernard last night at the Detroit Jazz Festival. Oh. My. God. His groove is just ridiculous. What a band!
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You might have a point there, but nobody can prove wether or not he did or didn't ghost on any beatles sessions etc... so it's still a mystery, but with all his credentials WHY WOULD HE NEED TO LIE!? Oh and "Aja" was not just Purdie... remember Gadd? I think there was a 3rd drummer on that record too. So you know Bowie and McCartney personally eh?
i can now debunk this mystery. one of the guitar teachers who works for me is robert ahwai. he recorded Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band with purdy in 1978. we were chatting and i mentioned this mystery and he knows purdy well as they were in Hummingbird together for a few years as well. He says purdy has recorded so much and worked so hard that it is likely that he is confusing this beatles cover album with actual beatles recordings - if, and only if, Purdy is indeed makng these claims at all. it is far more likely that purdy was actually referring to the cover album and others misunderstood him and the rumour then spread like wildfire.
Ergo Ringo really does rule.
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Anyone yet check out the interview/cover story with Bernard Purdie in the latest Drumhead magazine?

Interesting as always.
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Drumhead is great, I will check it out!
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Old 07-03-2017, 07:07 PM
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Drumhead is great, I will check it out!
It's a great read, with stories a-plenty as usual from him.

Plus he goes even further with The Beatles claims than ever before. Surprised it's not been reported on here as yet, that's all I'll say but you'll see what I mean. Ha!

I absolutely love the man, regardless of that aspect.
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"Drumbeat Magazine" - June 2017 - BP quoted: " Ringo is not on anything."
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Old 07-05-2017, 11:01 PM
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"Drumbeat Magazine" - June 2017 - BP quoted: " Ringo is not on anything."
Interesting. Maybe the quote is taken out of context...or BP, approaching 80 , is slowly entering pre-dementia territory.
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:45 AM
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I remember reading his story in Modern Drummer mag. a long time ago. I didn't think it was true. In the next issue Bryan Addams' sound man wrote a reply to Purdie's interview saying that multi track recording was not used during those early Beatle recordings. So it was not possible to have another drummer overdub Ringo's tracks. They were recorded 2 track live. The whole band would have had to play their parts again with Purdie.
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Interesting. Maybe the quote is taken out of context...or BP, approaching 80 , is slowly entering pre-dementia territory.
Alas, I doubt it would have been. He's been spouting it to anyone who'll listen for 30 odd years.

Great drummer.

Terribly unconvincing bullshitter.
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Alas, I doubt it would have been. He's been spouting it to anyone who'll listen for 30 odd years.

Great drummer.

Terribly unconvincing bullshitter.
aha, I never knew he had been saying that for so long.
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Old 07-07-2017, 02:43 PM
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I'm sure it's possible he was on a track or two, and we know the other lads themselves did some drumming here and there, but any statements about Ringo not being on any of it would not be correct.

The Ringo on the live recordings plays with the same feel that you hear on many of the studio tracks. That is undeniable truth.

I would suggest that dialog on Mr. Purdie stay centered on his credited tracks - and on his indisputable contributions to the art of drumming. He is a very important drummer in music history. And, these days he gets bonus points for playing Rich Sticks, the best sticks being made on the planet. :)
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Old 07-09-2017, 08:29 PM
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Interesting. Maybe the quote is taken out of context...or BP, approaching 80 , is slowly entering pre-dementia territory.
It's not taken out of context, in the Drumhead interview he claims Ringo was only the live drummer for the band and didn't appear on a single song.

Bunch of other claims about the band (including Paul McCartney's bass recordings) but that's the main bit. Would recommend getting a copy of the mag.

Still, I love the guy.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:04 PM
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Great drummer but has an issue bullshitting-even about the year he was born as he claims 1939 when actually 1941. He did play on the Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Band Soundtrack from the flick so maybe he's just stretching the truth a bit-so technically he has played on a Beatles album-just with no Beatle LOL.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:32 PM
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Purdie is like the Don King of Drummers- always promoting. But when he's speaking he doesn't come across so full of himself, often somewhat practical, not really bragging.

Love to watch him regardless, especially enjoyed his Drumeo video which was my favorite Drumeo video of all. What a fun lesson, and his stories/personal experiences are entertaining in addition to his tips.

This is the crazy Best answer to a viewer question he makes on that video:
"The biggest mistake a new drummer can make is....................
wear sneakers."

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Old 07-24-2017, 08:07 PM
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This is pretty surreal and very cleverly done. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edBgV7WOsZM
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Great drummer but has an issue bullshitting-even about the year he was born as he claims 1939 when actually 1941. He did play on the Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Band Soundtrack from the flick so maybe he's just stretching the truth a bit-so technically he has played on a Beatles album-just with no Beatle LOL.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story ha ha.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:39 PM
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hmm... Noticed BP's mounted Tom setup with the large Tom on his left.
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Old 07-25-2017, 05:40 PM
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Would love to see this guy in person. Doubt he'd come to the UK mind :(

People get really touchy about the whole Ringo thing. My opinion is it has always been the done thing in pop music.

There has been way better drummers than Ringo that have turned out to be Hal Blaine.

Anyways back on track would love to been sat in the instrumental Aja sessions they did for Classic Albums. Purdie and Chuck Rainey are a mans rhythm section.
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:10 AM
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Purdie is like the grandpa figure of drums. You just listen to him and crack up at all of his jokes, and you hope one day you can play like him.
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Wasn't the story that Purdie re-recorded some early Ringo stuff so they were punchier for the US release? Or at least that's how I heard it.. One of my all-time favs either way!
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I was fortunate enough to catch a Purdie clinic, live show, and did a private lesson during 2013. I'm sure I've mentioned it, but it was just incredible to be able to get honest feedback from my hero. Always a showman, but during both the clinic and lesson, he genuinely wanted to help others and didn't "showboat" about himself in anyway.
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Wasn't the story that Purdie re-recorded some early Ringo stuff so they were punchier for the US release? Or at least that's how I heard it.. One of my all-time favs either way!
That's the rumour.

Although how he managed to pull that off given the Beatles recordings of that era were all done on 4 track, is beyond me. How the hell does one manage to track over drums that have already been bounced down numerous times already?

His story just doesn't add up. Unless he was in the original sessions, I just can't see how the technology of the day allows for this claim.
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Wasn't the story that Purdie re-recorded some early Ringo stuff so they were punchier for the US release? Or at least that's how I heard it.. One of my all-time favs either way!
Not Ringo. Pete Best.

After the Beatles broke big, someone dug up some old demos recorded in Germany with Pete Best on drums. Because the drums were hard to hear, Purdie was hired to recorded new drums over of the existing recordings, which were sold to the un-suspecting public as "new" Beates songs.

But these recordings were limited a few USA only singles, and none of the actual albums, and nothing the Beatles themselves had approved.

Purdie himself probably had no idea it wasn't Ringo he was over dubbing. But then he had to go and exaggerate (or not remember) that it was entire albums over a small handful of songs.

Somewhere on this forum there is a larger thread with the links to proper evidence of what really happened.
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Honestly I don't care if he recorded with the Beatles or not. I wasn't there so I'm not going to say he was a liar just because of something I read on the internet, at the same time maybe he was telling the truth. It really doesn't matter because he has an entire groove named after himself and it will be a long long time until the purdie shuffle dies.
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I'm not going to say he was a liar just because of something I read on the internet, at the same time maybe he was telling the truth. It really doesn't matter because he has an entire groove named after himself and it will be a long long time until the purdie shuffle dies.
Personally I found his work on the new Star Wars really set the tone for the movie...

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