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Old 08-29-2017, 12:20 AM
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The most amazing inner clock this guy appears to have. Obviously there are people with an excellent sense of time. But to clap random tempos without hearing them played first, to this sort of precision, neither a single bpm too slow or fast, is inhuman. Or am I just being a mug and it's fake? :p I'm now thinking that someone behind the camera is showing another metronome to him.

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Old 08-29-2017, 12:49 AM
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I used the "liveBPM" app to randomly check a few of his claps, so my check is based on the integrity of the app.

The 100bpm seems to speed up, and comes out at around 103.85bpm near the end.

His 140bpm came out around 134-138bpm

His 160bpm was around 81bpm, so the app probably thought he was doing 8th notes.

His 250bpm registered at around 119-121bpm, do similar issue to the previous one.

If the app is correct, then he's not perfect, but he's definitely "close enough for disco," as we used to say in the olden days.

I'm going to test myself, by using a trick that Bermuda taught me, which is to think of a specific song that has a specific tempo and attempt to tap that out. I tapped "Feel Good, Inc." by The Gorillaz, without looking at the app, expecting 150bpm. I registered 152bpm. Not exactly scientific, so feel free to question or even dismiss my anecdotal results.

Is it possible to be perfect? Given that humans are not perfect, I have my doubts. I do think it's possible to get very close and to remain somewhat steady.

EDIT: Yes, he could be getting an assist from off-camera.
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:13 AM
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Interesting exercise with liveBPM, DrumWild. I've been meaning to download that app.
I just put a metronome to it and yes it never completely stays in sync, so you're right, there is fluctuation. Although all the tempos are extremely close including 160 and 250. It's just that when I watched the flashing light on his nome, it looked as though the claps were consistent with each flash.
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:37 AM
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I know that the camera never lies, because I've seen "Jurassic Park." It's good to question some of these things.
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:53 AM
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Lol.

Actually, he might or might not be getting help off camera. He might even have a form of autism. There are autistic savants who have incredible abilities such as this. I've seen a savant listen to a few seconds of a classical piece of music he'd never heard before, then immediately play it on the piano, perfectly.
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Old 08-29-2017, 02:12 AM
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Lol.

Actually, he might or might not be getting help off camera. He might even have a form of autism. There are autistic savants who have incredible abilities such as this. I've seen a savant listen to a few seconds of a classical piece of music he'd never heard before, then immediately play it on the piano, perfectly.
I've seen some incredible instances of this.

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Old 08-29-2017, 02:40 AM
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Certainly could have been rigged, we don't know how truly random the tempos are. It would be easy enough to let the subject know what tempos would be called out, and to play him songs at that tempo, so he can recall them in his head. Then someone with cue cards with the names of the songs can prompt both him and the examiner.

If you're familiar enough with a song, it's easy to 'play it' in your head, and reproduce the approximate tempo. If you're doing it right, you can also hear it in the correct key! :)

I have several songs in my brain that allow me to call up various tempos on a few seconds' notice, and always within a few bpm.

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Obviously it's important to be extremely familiar with the songs. I have several songs with Al that I've played ad nauseum to a click, so I know some odd tempos like 129.5, 119.3, etc. :)

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Old 08-29-2017, 02:54 AM
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Certainly could have been rigged, we don't know how truly random the tempos are. It would be easy enough to let the subject know what tempos would be called out, and to play him songs at that tempo, so he can recall them in his head. Then someone with cue cards with the names of the songs can prompt both him and the examiner.
All you'd need is another metronome app on a different phone muted so he could just see the light. Then it's just up to the guy holding the camera to hit the button on his accented clap. They'd sync up and it would look magic.

Dunno, I didn't really examine it. Would be easy to fake though.
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My opinion too, its rigged, clapper is looking at another metronome probably.
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Maybe it's rigged, but it seems like relative bpm. If you know a few songs by bpm you can extrapolate just about any variation relative to that tempo.
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I do something similar to what Bermuda does. When I play with a band I take their set list and write Beatle songs behind each song that I'm supposed to count in.
It gives me the BPM instantly when I think of the song.


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Old 08-29-2017, 06:35 AM
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He's always looking at the same spot when he's clapping, and he has to alter his tempo on a couple of them because he gets off from the visual metronome they're using to give him the tempo. It's bullcrap.
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Lol.

Actually, he might or might not be getting help off camera. He might even have a form of autism. There are autistic savants who have incredible abilities such as this. I've seen a savant listen to a few seconds of a classical piece of music he'd never heard before, then immediately play it on the piano, perfectly.
We had an autistic musical and mathematical genius like this at a school I oncetaught at. He came into class one day in 9th Grade and played a Mozart piano sonata on the piano, by memory. We asked where was the printed music, but he had no music, "It was on the radio" - he listened to the piece once on the way to school, memorized it, then sat down at the piano and played it.

Ironically, Mozart himself had this ability at quite a young age.
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:54 AM
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His 180bpm was all over the shop. No harm, it's something anyone can approximate, and that's all this video is, an approximation. You can even hear him slipping out of time with the metronome at 180.

It's like if someone asked you to really focus and tap the tempo of each song on your favourite album, one by one. Could you do it? Same thing. In the right environment and frame of mind, people can recall pitch and tempo perfectly.
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