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Old 07-21-2017, 06:03 PM
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"Practicing is vital part of the growth of any musician. It spells education and an educated musician is one who can play and really know his craft. There are no shortcuts.
Interest, patience, practice and experience (with a little care for the body) will make you bloom into a beautiful flower."

Note: He emphasized the words in italics.
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Old 07-22-2017, 01:52 AM
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"There are no shortcuts", words of a master. Nothing could be more true.
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"will make you bloom into a beautiful flower."
Very true. Well he did have two bass drum petals, controlled his speedwell, became a blazing star and rose to fame.
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My family has always called me a blooming idiot, so I guess practice works.
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"There are no shortcuts", words of a master. Nothing could be more true.
There are shortcuts, which are knowing what it´s useful to practice, otherwise you can practice all your life useless things, that is IN MY OPINION what most drummers do...

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I believe Louie was referring to taking the type of shortcuts that will prevent growth as a musician.
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What a great drummer and jazz drummer to model after, especially for his heyday. Besides the multiple bass drum thing, he's got some fire chops and tricks.
Take what you will from the words, but you must practice then you MUST play and eventually play with other musicians..and if you do, you will grow
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Very true. Well he did have two bass drum petals, controlled his speedwell, became a blazing star and rose to fame.
Got to love your wittiness, Lee! :)
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I believe Louie was referring to taking the type of shortcuts that will prevent growth as a musician.
I would tend to agree.
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There are shortcuts, which are knowing what it´s useful to practice, otherwise you can practice all your life useless things, that is IN MY OPINION what most drummers do...
But even if you knew what to practice (let's just say theoretically there is a list of things to practice), I think he meant that there are no shortcuts to getting there. If you know your job is to provide time for a band, you still need to put in the time, playing time, for a band. And I don't think playing time is anything you learn once and then get to forget about. What you do learn (over time) is how to provide time for lots of different bands and how to read people. And none of that happens without spending the time to learn how to do that.
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Wonderful quote by Louie Bellson on "practicing"

"Practicing is vital part of the growth of any musician...
Well, my opinion is that the quote is more about practing than anything else...(even starts with that word). Myself I study 8-10 hours a day, I agree. I just wanted to say that is not just practicing but practicing THE RIGHT THINGS (I know Louie knows this, I wasn¨t telling him, haha), ´cause you can practice all day useless things too ...

Oh, by the way, me with Louie (1980):




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Got to love your wittiness, Lee! :)
Thanks Gordon, you got my flower name puns :D
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Practice makes you a better musician, who would have thought?
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Well, my opinion is that the quote is more about practing than anything else...(even starts with that word). Myself I study 8-10 hours a day, I agree. I just wanted to say that is not just practicing but practicing THE RIGHT THINGS (I know Louie knows this, I wasn¨t telling him, haha), ´cause you can practice all day useless things too ...

Oh, by the way, me with Louie (1980):



Great pics, Alex! What an honour it must be to have met (in person) one of the world's greats!
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I met Louie a number of times (not just those two), he was as great as you see him on videos, etc.

Playing great, ultra positive, very friendly and educated.
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There are shortcuts, which are knowing what it´s useful to practice, otherwise you can practice all your life useless things, that is IN MY OPINION what most drummers do...
Alex, what kind of things would you consider useless to practice? Anything in specific you've found useless?

I ask because in my experience - which, I fully understand, amounts to about 1/500th of yours - I haven't found any rudiment, beat or rhythm that was completely 'useless'; even if there wasn't a direct application for a particular beat, I always felt that it helped whatever I WAS actually playing in a band setting.

For example, in the vast majority of the bands I've played in, very few songs were written that required a true swing beat - not to say that the songs couldn't 'swing', but rather the 1-and-a-2 type beat found on many jazz and early country songs.

But I would practice it anyway, and what I found was that in trying to perfect the chops to master that rhythm, I'd unintentionally further my applicable drumming in other aspects - stick control, time keeping, bass/snare interplay, etc.

This carries over to a lot of areas in my drumming - I very rarely use paradiddles in my playing, but I practice them all the time, and I can feel and hear the advancements I've made by doing so. Lots of examples I could cite, but the point being that I can't remember tackling something in practice that I found to be completely useless. Hell, just picking up the sticks every day seems to have a benefit.

But what you've written has me questioning myself: if a guy with your background thinks that some types of practice are a waste of time, maybe I'm wrong. And if so, I'd like to start focusing my routines on more beneficial exercises.
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