DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > General Discussion

General Discussion General discussion forum for all drum related topics. Use this forum to exchange ideas and information with your fellow drummers.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #81  
Old 08-17-2014, 11:44 PM
80zfreak 80zfreak is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 12
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

The weird thing is only the blue part has yellowed really bad. The red did a tiny bit. The silver is fine.





Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 08-17-2014, 11:53 PM
tamadrm tamadrm is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,849
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian View Post
What exactly will happen if 50's Leedy/Ludwig's or a '65 Ludwig tom are treated with this? I may try it just for fun, since the drums are worth nearly nothing.
What.......how damaged are they if you think they're worth nothing?A 65 Ludwig tom in decent condition,depending on the finish,can go from 150-450.,maybe even more.

Steve B
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 08-18-2014, 12:26 AM
BacteriumFendYoke's Avatar
BacteriumFendYoke BacteriumFendYoke is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ashford, Kent, UK
Posts: 6,387
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian View Post
No I only saw your pictures, but the drums look good if not great. I'm definitely interested, will bump this thread in the near future most likely. ;) I have a mid 50's 13" tom that is missing a couple pieces, collecting dust and it's actually very yellowed..perfect test rat!
Don't do it Brian! The older wraps (up until the late 60s) used a different kind of plastic and will probably react very badly with the retrobrite solution.
__________________
PEWFLADCC
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 08-18-2014, 11:27 AM
Brian Brian is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New England
Posts: 1,424
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by tamadrm View Post
What.......how damaged are they if you think they're worth nothing?A 65 Ludwig tom in decent condition,depending on the finish,can go from 150-450.,maybe even more.

Steve w
I have a 65 wmp Ludwig that a drum shop wouldn't offer anything. Great shape, all original parts.
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 08-18-2014, 05:08 PM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is offline
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 19,461
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

FWIW, I used alot more gel than what you have shown in the pic. I am also assuming you made the retrobrite correctly, following the recipe exactly. You did use the peroxide at 10 to 15% strength right? (I got 35% peroxide and diluted it with distilled water) The 3% peroxide you buy in the store isn't strong enough. You also used the Oxy-Clean, right? pretty important step. I put the gel on much thicker than you have pictured and I also rewetted it alot with a spray bottle that contained distilled water and some Oxy-clean dissolved in it. I let it sit out in the sun all day. I repeated the procedure the next day and turned the shaded side so it was in direct sunlight, just to be sure I got full coverage.
__________________
Sucking all the fun right out of life....
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 03-26-2016, 11:03 PM
alparrott's Avatar
alparrott alparrott is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wenatchee, WA
Posts: 5,731
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

At your urging I tried some of this on my Standards that have turned green from yellowing. There was very little change after two applications unfortunately. I will try again in a couple of weeks... followed the instructions to make my own and no dice =\
__________________
Al Parrott
"Jus suum cuique"
-------------------------------------------------------
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 03-26-2016, 11:10 PM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is offline
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 19,461
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by alparrott View Post
At your urging I tried some of this on my Standards that have turned green from yellowing. There was very little change after two applications unfortunately. I will try again in a couple of weeks... followed the instructions to make my own and no dice =\
Al tell me exactly what you did.
__________________
Sucking all the fun right out of life....
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 03-26-2016, 11:46 PM
alparrott's Avatar
alparrott alparrott is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wenatchee, WA
Posts: 5,731
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by larryace View Post
Al tell me exactly what you did.
Went with this guy's instructions to make the liquid version:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/66071596@N00/3822230561

Mixed the peroxide and OxiClean together as per his proportions. Applied it to the wrap with a rag, nice and sudsy. all over. Left in direct sunlight for an hour, with exposure to all sides but the most yellowed side directly towards the sun. After an hour, reapplied and repeated. Wiped off with a damp rag. Almost no discernable deyellowing, although the areas under the lugs where there was no yellowing look great now.
__________________
Al Parrott
"Jus suum cuique"
-------------------------------------------------------
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old 03-26-2016, 11:53 PM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is offline
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 19,461
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Al, the method I did called for like 18 hours of sunlight. And 15% peroxide, not 3%. I bought 35% peroxide at a natural foods store and diluted it down to 15% with distilled water.

The original website is not there anymore. But the above statement I recall perfectly.
__________________
Sucking all the fun right out of life....
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 03-26-2016, 11:59 PM
alparrott's Avatar
alparrott alparrott is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wenatchee, WA
Posts: 5,731
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by larryace View Post
Al, the method I did called for like 18 hours of sunlight. And 15% peroxide, not 3%. I bought 35% peroxide at a natural foods store and diluted it down to 15% with distilled water.

The original website is not there anymore. But the above statement I recall perfectly.
OK. I think I'll wait for this summer and try again - 18 hours of sunlight easy. Thanks for the pointer.
__________________
Al Parrott
"Jus suum cuique"
-------------------------------------------------------
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old 03-27-2016, 12:03 AM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is offline
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 19,461
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

From an earlier post:

"It's basically 15% peroxide supercharged by just the tiniest bit of oxy-clean, with ingredients to make it into a gel so it sticks".

Then you just stick it in the sun, turning it every 3 hours or so to get direct UV on all parts of the shell. I rewetted the gel when it dried in the sun with a spray bottle that contained water with some oxyclean dissolved in it, not much.

I did the treatment twice, but it only needed one time. I always overdo stuff.

Don't add the Oxyclean until right before you want to use it.
Don't cover it after adding the Oxyclean because it expands.
You can prepare the other stuff ahead of time, the xantham gum, glycerin and the 15% peroxide. Definitely dilute your peroxide with distilled water, or the peroxide will be wasted cleaning the water. Don't get 35% peroxide on you, it will burn you. Safety glasses recommended.

The original website I found the info from is gone.
__________________
Sucking all the fun right out of life....

Last edited by larryace; 03-27-2016 at 12:21 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 06-20-2017, 08:32 PM
TheElectricCompany's Avatar
TheElectricCompany TheElectricCompany is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 326
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by larryace View Post
From an earlier post:

"It's basically 15% peroxide supercharged by just the tiniest bit of oxy-clean, with ingredients to make it into a gel so it sticks".

Then you just stick it in the sun, turning it every 3 hours or so to get direct UV on all parts of the shell. I rewetted the gel when it dried in the sun with a spray bottle that contained water with some oxyclean dissolved in it, not much.

I did the treatment twice, but it only needed one time. I always overdo stuff.

Don't add the Oxyclean until right before you want to use it.
Don't cover it after adding the Oxyclean because it expands.
You can prepare the other stuff ahead of time, the xantham gum, glycerin and the 15% peroxide. Definitely dilute your peroxide with distilled water, or the peroxide will be wasted cleaning the water. Don't get 35% peroxide on you, it will burn you. Safety glasses recommended.

The original website I found the info from is gone.
Do these guidelines look close to what was said on the original site you posted? http://www.retr0bright.com/make.html
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 06-20-2017, 10:27 PM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is offline
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 19,461
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheElectricCompany View Post
Do these guidelines look close to what was said on the original site you posted? http://www.retr0bright.com/make.html
The recipe under Lornes variant is the exact recipe I used with great success.
__________________
Sucking all the fun right out of life....
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 06-20-2017, 10:45 PM
TheElectricCompany's Avatar
TheElectricCompany TheElectricCompany is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 326
Default Re: Wow, I just safely and completely unyellowed my WMP

Right on! I might try this on a champagne tom that I think has been ginger-aled. Now to convince the girlfriend to let me use our new blender.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com