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Old 05-15-2017, 09:57 PM
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hey all you keen eyes and ears, what's the lick being played here at 2:12?
I am guessing flam accents between the ride cymbal and snare?
ps. I think my link may be at 0.5 speed.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:13 PM
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Sounds & looks like 6-stroke rolls, slightly loose & open. One of my favorite complicated sounding licks to use when playing medium-tempo swing, with the cymbal on "1". Basically, what he's doing in the clip.

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Old 05-15-2017, 11:07 PM
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I can't hear it well enough, but tend to agree with Mr Shortz. It looks like sets of doubles.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:32 PM
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thanks, ya I like it. it does look and sound very cool. 6 stroke rolls eh? I can pull that off :)
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Old 05-16-2017, 02:30 AM
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6 stroke rolls all day
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:25 AM
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Yep...

6-stroke rolls.

Btw, did anyone notice that first comment? "They played this song like their tour bus was double parked outside." That's awesome!! I'm gonna have to steal that one...
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So is the sticking RLLRRL?
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So is the sticking RLLRRL?
Yep. Treat the first R as the accent and downbeat (or start) of the figure. There are undoubtedly 100 or more YouTube videos of the correct implementation.

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Yeah that's the way I play 6 stroke rolls. I did have a debate over on the drumming reddit about someone claiming that RLLRRL was not a 6 stroke roll and that it was a paradiddle-diddle that starts on a different hand (technically, that part was true) and that what differentiates a 6 stroke roll is that they use 8th and 16ths (so R.LLRRL. the periods signify 8th note), and not triplet/sextuplet based.

I was just clarifiying that when people were talking about 6 stroke rolls that it was the way the rest of us plebs play them, and not the 'tr00 rudimental way.'
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hey all you keen eyes and ears, what's the lick being played here at 2:12?
I am guessing flam accents between the ride cymbal and snare?
ps. I think my link may be at 0.5 speed.
Love that song and was always really intrigued by what the drummer's solo was comprised of. I watched it on YouTube and slowed it down to check the 6 stroke rolls- looks like that but I still can't quite figure it out since he's hitting the ride/crash partially on the rolls.
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Ya its a great riff, I grew up around that song and it always intrigued me.
and actually that link was the first time I'd seen/looked up the drummer doing it. I had no idea it was such a small kit, could of sworn it was really fast double bass work on the record.
Haha indeed, they played it double-tempo. Funny moment seeing the drummer smile over at guitarist as to how fast they decided to play it. Maybe to squeeze in a 6 min song to a 3 min time slot on a TV show.
I have worked a lot on 6 stroke roll the past few months, but can't reach his speed between cymbals and snare.
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