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Old 03-23-2017, 12:45 AM
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Default App to measure the angle of snare drum

I'm quite particular on the angle of my snare drum, and I'd like for it to be completely flat. I've used the iphone compass app to make it to 0 degrees, which is flat, but I've found it's not that accurate.

Any techniques or apps or whatever you guys use to acheive this?
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:03 AM
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I'm quite particular on the angle of my snare drum, and I'd like for it to be completely flat. I've used the iphone compass app to make it to 0 degrees, which is flat, but I've found it's not that accurate.

Any techniques or apps or whatever you guys use to acheive this?
Measure highest point distance from floor from bottom of snare.
Measure lowest point from floor. from bottom of snare
Subtract these two numbers
This gives you adjacent B.
Diameter is A.
A^2 + B^2 = C^2 (C is hypotenuse)
Calculate Adjacent / Hypotenuse
cos^-1 the result (adj/Hypotnuse)

Or wait.. something like that... Go here instead of listening me try to remember trig.

https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/t...-triangle.html
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:10 AM
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Not to sway you from doing whatever you want, but if you can't tell the angle by playing it, what difference does it make?

And sorry to be unhelpful, but I have no idea about an app for leveling purposes. However, a small level costs next to nothing at the hardware store. throw it in the drum case/cymbal bag pocket and you're ready.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:10 AM
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I mean, if you're that weird about perfect flat (in relation to the floor, or sea, or building foundation?) then just go buy a freaking bubble level, ya freak.

On a side note, getting hung up about stuff like this is detrimental to your musicianship. Worry more about the sounds and the rhythms and less about what you're hitting and how it's setup. The longer we play, the less it matters, so it pays to be cautious about relying on weirdities like this.

Just set up for the gig, play a moment and then quickly adjust if you're hitting the rim too much or whatever.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:35 AM
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every snare basket has several adjustments, and one sits right in the middle = flat. Thats as good as you need it.
I really hope there is not an app for this level of detail.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:48 AM
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Glass of water placed on top of the snare.
If the water is level ,it's flat.
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:05 AM
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However, a small level costs next to nothing at the hardware store.
Even cheaper at 99¢ store, Dollar Tree, etc. :)
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I'm guess the Compass on the iPhone is withing 1 Degree give or take 1 millimeter. I used it to measure the porch slant in front of my house to cut a 4 x 4 post. Put a level on it when done and it was plumb. You can buy a circle level for peanuts. I remember my brother in law after he and I put together one of those monster stereo cabninets loading it gear and then discovering one side was 1/8th inch further from the wall than the other. Really? Your snare looks level from here. Do you measure tilt on your cymbals as well.???
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:24 AM
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Glass of water placed on top of the snare.
If the water is level ,it's flat.
Well done pgm554!

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Just play yer bloody drums, young man.


This level of minutiae will be the end of you.
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:39 AM
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Just play yer bloody drums, young man.


This level of minutiae will be the end of you.
Lol I agree with this.

The more you play, and gig, the more your will realize that setting your kit exactly how you want it is superfluous. Not to mention, stressful as well.
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Glass of water placed on top of the snare.
If the water is level ,it's flat.
should the glass be half full or half empty
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:04 AM
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Don't listen to all of this silly advice you are getting here.

Simply bring one ball bearing with you. Put the ball bearing in the middle of the drum.
If you have a smooth drum head and if the ball stays in the middle of the drum, then it is level.
Keep adjusting the stand until the ball stays in the middle. (That ought to keep you busy for a while.)


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Lol I agree with this.

The more you play, and gig, the more your will realize that setting your kit exactly how you want it is superfluous. Not to mention, stressful as well.
I'm all for individual subtlety and nuance......it plays a big part in our overall comfort levels at the kit. Certainly not a bad thing in and of itself. But this is just utterly friggen' ridiculous.

If you can't play your kit without obsessing over micrometric measurements, then I'm gonna argue that the minuscule differences in the angle of your snare drum from one set up to the next is the very least of your concerns.


In my experience, you can either play or you can't. And it's never lost on me how the latter group seem to clutch at any reason, no matter how far fetched or absurd, in order to mask it.

OP, don't be one of those guys.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:35 AM
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Half full - but half full of urine.
As long as urine has the same viscosity..
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Old 03-23-2017, 12:58 PM
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Simply bring one ball bearing with you.
Wouldn't a glass marble be better? A ball bearing could be subject to magnetic interference...

As someone who has a tendency towards obsessive behaviours, I sympathise with the OP. And while the best advice is clearly just to relax and play what feels right, I'm thinking custom hoops with spirit-level inlays at 3 and 9 o'clock would be awesome.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:49 PM
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I would use a golf ball. Gently lay the ball of the head and see whnich way it rolls. Repeat until it's proper. Just be sure to use a ball marker before lifting the ball each time. Failure to do so is a two stroke penalty.
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:54 PM
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I really think you should stop thinking about this. Worrying about your setup to me is a worry you have before you are a good drummer. That does not mean I am saying you aren't a good drummer. But good drummers should be able to sit at any drum set and still be a drummer!
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Wouldn't a glass marble be better? A ball bearing could be subject to magnetic interference...

As someone who has a tendency towards obsessive behaviours, I sympathise with the OP. And while the best advice is clearly just to relax and play what feels right, I'm thinking custom hoops with spirit-level inlays at 3 and 9 o'clock would be awesome.
I think noon and three would be better. Don't you want to check the level in both the X and Y axis? ;) In for a penny, in for a pound.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:33 PM
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I used to play with a flat snare. I would just place a stick across the drum,from hoop to hoop. If it didn't roll,it was close enough.
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I used to play with a flat snare. I would just place a stick across the drum,from hoop to hoop. If it didn't roll,it was close enough.
Hey, finally someone comes up with a good idea !!!


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Wouldn't a glass marble be better? A ball bearing could be subject to magnetic interference...
Yes, a glass marble would work good! I would try this, but I can't find a marble. Apparently I've lost all my marbles.



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iPhone has a level, I use it for the BD sometimes. Open your compass then swipe left. My computer table is perfectly level by default.

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I use an Android app called Bubble. I use it for spot checking the RV, but it should also work well for a snare drum. It has the visual bubble as well as a numeric readout.

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Yes, a glass marble would work good! I would try this, but I can't find a marble. Apparently I've lost all my marbles.
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Despite losing your marbles Jim, I hope you still have your bearings.
Ha !!

My mother, grandmother and uncle died from Alzheimer’s.
So I expect to eventually lose all of my marbles and my bearings.


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iPhone has a level, I use it for the BD sometimes. Open your compass then swipe left. My computer table is perfectly level by default.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mJh94Cm3zw
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I've used the iphone compass app to make it to 0 degrees, which is flat, but I've found it's not that accurate.
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I've used the iphone compass app to make it to 0 degrees, which is flat, but I've found it's not that accurate.
Right, but a Compass App (to those who don't know) is not a level, its a compass. iPhone level App
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Right, but a Compass App (to those who don't know) is not a level, its a compass. iPhone level App
But if you swipe the app left it is a level.........
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But if you swipe the app let it is a level.........

I read these threads from the perspective of I don't know anything, or from the perspective of there's 100K ppl on DRUMMERWORLD, there's probably someone who doesn't know there's a level app 'inside' the iPhone Compass app.

Reading all the previous posts about the iPhone Compass (and not a level), one could easily wonder how you'd level a snare drum with a compass if you didn't know there was a level app behind it.
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This reminds me of when I worked retail. We had a customer that brought a triple beam scale in to weigh sticks when he bought them. Took him forever to pick out a couple of pair. He should have put that time into practicing......
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This reminds me of when I worked retail. We had a customer that brought a triple beam scale in to weigh sticks when he bought them. Took him forever to pick out a couple of pair. He should have put that time into practicing......
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Ha !!

My mother, grandmother and uncle died from Alzheimer’s.
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This reminds me of when I worked retail. We had a customer that brought a triple beam scale in to weigh sticks when he bought them. Took him forever to pick out a couple of pair. He should have put that time into practicing......
Wow a 3 beam lol. I thought me rolling the sticks was a little much. Hey more power to him, whatever makes you happy, right?
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