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Old 11-12-2014, 08:11 AM
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Hi all,
any of you (esp you Yamaha lovers) have had experience with the new Live Custom oak kit?
I've been reading great reviews on websites but would like to know more from you guys; my options with Yamaha are now very limited especially now a lot of lines have been discontinued & very hard to find.

My current kit is DW performance series, love it, but want to branch out to Yamaha. I am already a fan of Yamaha hardware - absolutely love everything about it.

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Old 11-12-2014, 04:09 PM
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Hi Art,

I've been gigging a Live Custom kit pretty regularly since last spring and I like it a lot. To my ears, these deliver the attack, projection and "meatiness" of oak without being too harsh.

I was lucky enough to score a great deal on a kit Dave Weckl played at last year's PASIC so the "bang for your buck" factor has been especially high on these.

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Old 11-12-2014, 07:27 PM
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I have the Absolute custom oak (also the birch). Great sounding for sure. Got a closeout deal from local GC last year. Couldn't pass it up, especially made in Japan. But, the live kits, even though built in china, are still up to Yamaha standards....
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:24 PM
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Steve Jordan on the Live Oak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b97bMh-tGI

I love both the new as the older Oak.
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Old 11-15-2014, 08:53 PM
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Steve Jordan on the Live Oak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b97bMh-tGI

I love both the new as the older Oak.
I don't know how Steve plays with bracelets and neck chains. I for sure would catch my sticks in them. I love what he says. Very deep and intelligent man.
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Old 11-15-2014, 09:10 PM
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I don't know how Steve plays with bracelets and neck chains. I for sure would catch my sticks in them.
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Old 11-15-2014, 10:08 PM
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I've just bought a yamaha oak custom, tried to date it. HHZ serial, so December 2011?

22, 16, 12, 10. No snare, mint condition.

I'm doing to put some vintage coated emperor skins on.

What were these kits new price wise ? Uk pounds. These are made in japan shells.

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Old 11-15-2014, 10:58 PM
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I can't believe more drums aren't made of oak, or that more people don't use them.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:37 AM
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:14 AM
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Steve Jordan on the Live Oak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b97bMh-tGI

I love both the new as the older Oak.
Wes, I just had to go & check out the James Brown performance Steve mentions in this video. Really - something very special!

Grunt, Oak is inherently bright with a clean low end. That's subject to construction, that can either subdue or enhance certain properties to a degree. Then there's head choices & tuning of course, but oak will always occupy the brighter cleaner end of the delivery scale. In solid shell forms, that's even more pronounced, & makes it more of a specific requirement in that sector of drums.
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:53 AM
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Wes, I just had to go & check out the James Brown performance Steve mentions in this video. Really - something very special!
Keep it simple... That one is good but James did some REALLY COOL stuff that just seriously made history.

Here is the first example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9s6tltaIs
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Old 11-16-2014, 12:47 PM
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How much is an oak custom kit new?
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Keep it simple... That one is good but James did some REALLY COOL stuff that just seriously made history.

Here is the first example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9s6tltaIs
Too cool even for a cape? Wow, that's off the charts! ;)
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:15 PM
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How much is an oak custom kit new?
At MF they have a three piece for 1600.00
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Grunt, Oak is inherently bright with a clean low end. That's subject to construction, that can either subdue or enhance certain properties to a degree. Then there's head choices & tuning of course, but oak will always occupy the brighter cleaner end of the delivery scale. In solid shell forms, that's even more pronounced, & makes it more of a specific requirement in that sector of drums.
Ah, that's the word: "Clean." Thanks Andy.

I find that these drums have worked really well for the "back beat" gigs I do (e.g., rock, pop, blues) and depending on the venue, deliver well sans microphones (or using Glyn Johns method as in the picture). For jazz, it's still the maple drums (well, sometimes a birch kick drum).

With the exception of a couple of stave snares, I've never played/heard solid oak shells. I reckon those would really deliver on what oak is all about.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:44 PM
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The Oak Customs (along with all of the other Japanese made lines) are no longer being made, since Yamaha pulled out of Japan over a year ago. The current Oak offering is the Live Custom, which is made in China. As Grunt stated, they start at about $1600 for 3 piece.
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:02 AM
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The Oak Customs (along with all of the other Japanese made lines) are no longer being made, since Yamaha pulled out of Japan over a year ago.....
The PHX are still made in Japan....
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:25 AM
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The PHX are still made in Japan....
Right, they weren't (aren't) made by Sakae. I guess I should have been more specific to say 'the Sakae lines are no longer made.'
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:35 AM
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After selling off my Oak Customs last November and picking up a set of DW Performance I am now back to the Oak's. I liked the DW but was not blown away. I missed the bass drum mounting and the great Yamaha hardware and sound. I traded the DW's in for a brand new Live Oak and very happy that I did. They are very well made, sound and look great too.
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I bought a set of Live Customs last July 2014. Amazing kit! So much so that I am switching over everything to Yamaha! Plan this year is to buy an AMH in Vintage Natural. 10-12-14-16-20 and snare.


PHX drums are made in the Yamaha factory in Hamamastu. Three craftsmen make all of the drums, I think. Three.

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Old 02-09-2015, 12:22 AM
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Beautiful kit drummaman1. If I could have any kit, that is the kit I would get.


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Old 02-09-2015, 01:07 AM
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I can't believe more drums aren't made of oak, or that more people don't use them.

I never really checked into Ludwig Keystones, but when I did, I was a little surprised to read this:
"...Keystone's 5-ply combination of a Classic Maple three-ply core between inner and outer 1/16" plys of American Red Oak creates a thin, dense shell that speaks loudly with quick, even decay...."
http://www.ludwig-drums.com/usa_keystone.php

Passed by them because the sizes weren't right.

About the Live Customs - I'd like to have a set of them.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:26 AM
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Really nice kit drummaman1! The church I play for has a black shadow sunburst kit... Very easy to tune and one of the better kicks I've ever played...
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:33 AM
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I've had a Live Custom kit for around 2 years now. It's the black wood finish, which is killer if you ask me. I have a 22/10/12/14/16 set, but usually use the 22/12/16 for gigs and rehearsals.

I've experimented with lots of different heads, but have landed on the Remo Vintage Emperors as the best for me (both coated and clear.)

I love them. They are KILLER drums, IMO. I originally bought them, because I wanted a set with a 14x22" bass drum and a bass drum mount. I couldn't be happier with them.

I also have a set of MIJ Club Customs in the same sizes (except the bass drum is 15" deep), also in black wood finish. The quality is the same on both. They sound totally different and I feel like I have the best of both worlds!

Here's Ben White rocking out on a set just like mine. I have several videos on YouTube as well, if you're interested. Just search for my name.

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I've had a Live Custom kit for around 2 years now. It's the black wood finish, which is killer if you ask me. I have a 22/10/12/14/16 set, but usually use the 22/12/16 for gigs and rehearsals.

I've experimented with lots of different heads, but have landed on the Remo Vintage Emperors as the best for me (both coated and clear.)

I love them. They are KILLER drums, IMO. I originally bought them, because I wanted a set with a 14x22" bass drum and a bass drum mount. I couldn't be happier with them.

I also have a set of MIJ Club Customs in the same sizes (except the bass drum is 15" deep), also in black wood finish. The quality is the same on both. They sound totally different and I feel like I have the best of both worlds!

Here's Ben White rocking out on a set just like mine. I have several videos on YouTube as well, if you're interested. Just search for my name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo1_w4ZkyFI
How do they sound compared to the club customs ?
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......They are KILLER drums, IMO.........
Here's Ben White rocking out on a set just like mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo1_w4ZkyFI
I agree live customs are really nice drums ... Sound great, easy to tune...and Ben White is an awesome drummer!...:-)
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How do they sound compared to the club customs ?
Here ya go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxkz4ZOx7Z0

:) I don't have identical heads on both kits in that video, but the tone differences are still the same. They both pretty much sound as advertised to me!

The Club Custom is indeed warmer and "rounder" sounding, whereas the Live Custom is louder and more modern/punchy. Owning both is awesome and I'm grateful I can do that!
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Old 02-15-2015, 10:48 AM
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Hi guys,

I'm new here, but would just like to say I have the Live Customs as well. I put on some coated G2's and a clear EMAD for the bass and I absolutely love the way they sound. I always wanted the Oak Customs, but never got around to it. I was somewhat skeptical about the whole move to China thing, but wow, did those thoughts disappear after I got them. The finish (amber sunburst), the hardware, everything is flawless. The quality is definitely there, and the sound, (to me anyway), is the slight warmth of maple, responsive, yet full toned.
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I've owned my Live Custom set for probably 2 years now. My original alt rock band doesn't gig all that much, but I've probably played 40 gigs on this set in 2 years. I used them again last night and lots of folks were asking about them and commenting on just how killer they sound.

They really are great drums IMO. They sound powerful, clear, and deep. I still prefer the coated vintage emperors on the tom batters and a clear PS3 on the bass batter.
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Great sounding and well built drums for sure. I had the gold badge Oak Custom kit and sold them to try out DW, two months later I sold the DW and picked up the Live Oak. Using the stock clear emps and and Aquarian SK1 on the bass. Drums sound great. Can't go wrong, price, quality, sound.
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Great sounding and well built drums for sure. I had the gold badge Oak Custom kit and sold them to try out DW, two months later I sold the DW and picked up the Live Oak. Using the stock clear emps and and Aquarian SK1 on the bass. Drums sound great. Can't go wrong, price, quality, sound.
Welcome home. I knew you'd be back , I just knew it!
So after all that…do you prefer Live Oaks or the original Oak Customs?

I have both at the moment , but I think I'll keep the Oak Customs and sell the Live Oaks - it has nothing to do with sound preference or build quality. I just prefer the configuration of my Oak Custom kit (10/13/14/18x14 with lift) - over my Live Oak (12/14/18x14).

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I'll trust anything Dave Weckl plays on tour :D
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:22 AM
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Hey - even this guy likes the Live Oak Customs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmW5G_fiznc

IN the initial stages they asked me what they thought he'd like to play Yamaha-wise, and I went old skool and said he'd love Recording Customs, but what do I know?
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Those look like the original Oak Custom's in Red Oak.

I want that job!
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.... I just prefer the configuration of my Oak Custom kit (10/13/14/18x14 with lift)....
Would you happen to have a picture of that kit you could post?
If you already did, I must have missed it.
Do you have the 10 and 13 up top?
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