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Old 08-01-2014, 11:17 PM
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Interesting clip. Waiting to see this
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:41 PM
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OK,that Farmers Insurance guy needs,what the NYPD likes to call.....a corrective interview,or better still .....a tune up.Looks like a decent flick though.

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Old 08-02-2014, 07:05 PM
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I've read forums where there are drummers who've had this very variety of "mentor" (yelling, degrading, throwing things even...) and they THANK them for helping forming them musically! Go figure...
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Old 08-02-2014, 07:13 PM
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Great art is born from great pain.

Love that line, so true. Look at Blues. Oddly enough, that's a quote from Gomez Addams from the TV show "The Addams Family".

Definitely going to see this movie.

Really looking forward the the James Brown Movie too. It's out as of yesterday.
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Old 08-02-2014, 10:34 PM
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I'm intrigued. Thanks for the post.
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Old 08-03-2014, 12:21 AM
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I can't help but think of Schillinger from OZ whenever I see JK Simmons yelling. Just remembering how thoroughly evil that character was reminds me how good an actor he is.

I will definitely see this one.
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Old 11-09-2014, 02:34 AM
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I just saw this today. I really, really liked it. Simmons gives a terrific performance. You don't have to like jazz or drums to enjoy this movie, but it's especially fun if you do.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:34 AM
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Saw it here in OZ in Melbourne ! :),
LOVED it! but IMHO/FWIW i'd NEVER EVER let myself be treated so badly&poorly&would NEVER EVER put myself in that kind/type of emotional&physical torture FWI/IMHO NO gig is worth doing THAT to yourself! :),
What cymbals&drums was he playing thruout the movie?.
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Old 11-10-2014, 03:32 PM
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There are some inaccuracies in terms of how drum- and music-related things are depicted, but I tend to let those slide, because you kind of have to when it comes to movies. Whenever you watch a movie about a subject you know a lot about, you notice the things that aren't quite right.

For instance, the pain threshold depicted when the guy is practicing uptempo playing (which they call 'double-time') is not how it really works, but to get the point across to a larger audience, I understand why it gets dramatized that way. They also distort the Jo Jones/Charlie Parker story.

I'm an avid chessplayer and they always get things wrong in movies, showing scenarios that never happen, but again, that's show biz.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:52 AM
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I've read forums where there are drummers who've had this very variety of "mentor" (yelling, degrading, throwing things even...) and they THANK them for helping forming them musically! Go figure...
There is a piano professor at a local University here that in infamous for making her students cry. I saw the movie with one of her former students, and she said something interesting about it... that that teacher was trying to ale great music through her students, but also that she cared more about the music than her students. It seemed to be that this same sentiment was implied in the movie.
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Old 12-07-2014, 01:45 PM
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I've been wanting to see this for a while. It got great reviews but did not play in any local theaters. Hopefully it will be out on DVD soon.
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:29 PM
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Pretty dumb movie. To say it's a stretch of the imagination is putting it lightly.
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I saw the movie, and it is so disappointing.

The way they play the drum sucks so hard. It looks like they cannot play. They are not using their wrist, no Style at all. Tommy Igoe would be shocked :-)

And I'm not speaking about the way they present practicing which so wrong.

All good or gifted players are always super relaxed when they play because they practice so much and here it's not case at all.

It's always the same bad story with those Hollywood movies.

Thought it is not a "Drummer movie", Birdman is 10.000 time better for people who like drums comparing to Whiplash. All the fills are so inspirational and played by a super drummer.
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That preview is hilarious-any educator would be looking at a lawsuit and lose his job treating students like that. Now surely when I was in grad school (not music) I took a lot of abuse but it wasn't overt-just demanding, mild embarrassments, and unequal treatment. Basically they treat you like an imbecile till you finally defend your dissertation, publish a few papers, and join the club-then they suddenly call you "doctor" and you keep looking around the room wondering who the heck they are talking about. Throwing things and slapping a student is just so unrealistic-it's called assault and battery. Call the cops. I saw an interview with the main character and he stated he felt like a competent drummer in all genres except jazz. Now that's some fine acting LOL.
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If you look past the blaring technique and drum faults, it's not a bad movie. I can relate to a lot of the things happening to the main character. Getting angry and frustrated, thrashing equipment, bleeding and all that jazz.
I didn't have a crazy angry instructor, so I had to be one to myself.
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Old 02-23-2015, 02:58 AM
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Just read that JK Simmons won the best supporting actor Oscar. Congrats to him.
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Anyone know who's playing drums in original soundtrack, especially Caravan tune? Crazy solo in the end !
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Pretty dumb movie. To say it's a stretch of the imagination is putting it lightly.
I agree. Dumb, masochistic waste of time.
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:10 PM
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I'm sorry some of you can't see beyond some of the flaws - to enjoy something that can touch the hearts of anyone who has experienced the amazing joy of playing.

I'll take a 180 from some of you - I think it is a very special movie.
Had chills running down my spine for 15 minutes after.
Watched it 3 times, and I'll enjoy it many more times in my life.
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Anyone know who's playing drums in original soundtrack, especially Caravan tune? Crazy solo in the end !
According to this article, it's the actor himself:

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So, long answer short, that is, indeed, Teller playing the drums -- but with help from some great editing and no small amount of hard work.
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Old 05-02-2015, 01:22 AM
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I've seen the actor playing the drums, and I doubt that he is playing these songs, I mean studio versions. It is believed that it is played by Antonio Sanchez actually. But I can't find official info about it.((
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Reading that article again, and judging from Teller's stick handling, I think you're right. It is most likely another drummer who did the actual playing. Teller 'merely' did the actual mimicking.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:34 PM
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They didn't give the editing guy an Oscar for nothing. I'm pretty sure Teller's audio is on nothing but the horrible-sounding parts-- the "double time swing" contest, the place where he forgets how to play the drums in the concert because he doesn't have a chart, maybe the "not my tempo" scene. I don't know how they did that opening solo-- I think Teller learned to play it for the shot, but they had a real drummer on the soundtrack.
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HATED this movie.

Playing in a jazz band growing up, none of the band leaders treated musicians like that. And why the completely irrational fixation on the drummer? For the movie's sake? Doesn't this guy have an entire band to worry about? He would have been fired within 5 minutes if this was real life.

The end of the flick was nothing but an elaborate revenge plot that NOBODY would go though the time to execute.

I had a lot of people tell me that I need to suspend my disbelief and this should not be compared to my real-life band experiences, but this is NOT Mad Max. This is a drama.

J.K. Simmons is a great actor, but this movie blows. I think it was basically the writer venting about some jerk professor he had in the past.
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Old 06-05-2015, 08:38 PM
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And why the completely irrational fixation on the drummer? For the movie's sake? Doesn't this guy have an entire band to worry about?
There's a whole scene where Fletcher persecutes the horn section, and eventually, one guy in particular. Beyond that, you see the focus on the drummer, becuz, the movie Is about Andrew and Fletcher.

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The end of the flick was nothing but an elaborate revenge plot that NOBODY would go though the time to execute.
I find there are plenty of bad people in the world who would gladly go through the time to execute that.
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They didn't give the editing guy an Oscar for nothing.
While I love this movie, that's one thing that I wouldn't agree with.

I don't think the editing in this movie is Oscar worthy. There are a few very bad bits that were never fixed. Definitely not award worthy in my book.

Still a great, entertaining, touching movie.
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There's a whole scene where Fletcher persecutes the horn section, and eventually, one guy in particular. Beyond that, you see the focus on the drummer, becuz, the movie Is about Andrew and Fletcher.
So yeah, for the movie's sake. The should have just opted to not make the movie.
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While I love this movie, that's one thing that I wouldn't agree with.

I don't think the editing in this movie is Oscar worthy. There are a few very bad bits that were never fixed. Definitely not award worthy in my book.

Still a great, entertaining, touching movie.
Are you in film? Am curious how does one critique editing?
Ok I can see when maybe a cut is 'bad' - a quick, awkward, sudden cut maybe.
But how do you judge when editing is 'good'? Or do you mean editing for content?
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Are you in film? Am curious how does one critique editing?
Ok I can see when maybe a cut is 'bad' - a quick, awkward, sudden cut maybe.
But how do you judge when editing is 'good'? Or do you mean editing for content?
I'm not in film. But a movie of this type that then wins an edit award should have seen and removed the mistakes where what the drummer is playing is blatantly not what is happening in the audio. Like when the audio has a crash, the drummer needs to crash, and when the audio has toms, the drummer needs to be at the toms. There were a few blatant misses with that. Again, nothing to spoil fun in the movie, but for me, enough to say the edit was not award worthy.
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HATED this movie.

Playing in a jazz band growing up, none of the band leaders treated musicians like that. And why the completely irrational fixation on the drummer? For the movie's sake? Doesn't this guy have an entire band to worry about? He would have been fired within 5 minutes if this was real life.

The end of the flick was nothing but an elaborate revenge plot that NOBODY would go though the time to execute.

I had a lot of people tell me that I need to suspend my disbelief and this should not be compared to my real-life band experiences, but this is NOT Mad Max. This is a drama.

J.K. Simmons is a great actor, but this movie blows. I think it was basically the writer venting about some jerk professor he had in the past.
I agree, the movie sucks. Yeah Simmons did a great job acting, but his character is why bullets were invented. Anyone who'd put up with that kind of abuse is an idiot.
BTW....I'd say at least 90 percent of "drummers" are no more musicians than the guy taking your order at McDonalds. Instead they're mathematical technicians concentrating on speed as though that's what music is about. Uh....Excuse me a moment while I put my high horse back in the corral.
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There's another thread on here about this movie as well. One of the things I find interesting on both of these threads is how so many people say the movie sucks because they dislike the Fletcher character so much. If it wasn't a good movie, people wouldn't be reacting so emotionally to that character. The fact that JK Simmons could bring out such a reaction just shows how good of performance it was.
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can you share a torrent link for this movie, I can't find it in the internet. (if this is allow here) Thanks in advance.
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can you share a torrent link for this movie, I can't find it in the internet. (if this is allow here) Thanks in advance.
If you are in the US, and demand that you see it for free, I would recommend you reserve it at your local library.
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I dug the movie. Pretty easy to make out the overdubbed parts vs the parts the kid was actually playing.

It was an extreme example, but completely reminded me of the percussion specialist we had for my first two years of school band. The guy would smash our knuckles with the flip side of his mallets if we screwed up charts and constantly berated us. No face slapping though.

He got on one kid so bad one day that he started crying, threw his sticks on the floor and said "I quit" He starts putting stuff in his backpack. The old mans walking up to him fishing through his pockets and says "do you have a quarter?" The kid and all of us were completely puzzled. The kids squinting and frowning at him and goes "why do you want a quarter?" He goes "So I can call your mother and tell her a little pussy is about to walk in the front door"

We wanted to laugh, but didn't. The kid also didn't quit.

To this day, 25+ years later, I still think in fear about how pissed he'd be if he heard how I've let my rudiments sag.
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From movie pink panther:

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