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Old 02-05-2014, 05:15 PM
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Hello guys,

there is this guy who is offering to sell me what he claims to be a Ludwig double pedal. he sent me a picture online of it and it didn't have the brand carved on it. he claims that he has the case and everything and will show me the day he gives me the pedals for a try. but I am suspicious.

my question is does Ludwig produce pedals that doesn't have the brand carved on it?
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Old 02-05-2014, 05:17 PM
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Welcome to the forum.

Can you upload the pic? (No Ludwig expert here but the pic might help anyway.)
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Old 02-05-2014, 05:26 PM
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there it is, the image he sent me.
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Old 02-08-2014, 11:57 AM
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not a ludwig pedal from any year.

it could be some sort of lower line ludwig pedal but it and the kit is not sold as a ludwig (i forgot the name it goes by) even then, no one offers a dbl pedal for a begginer line of kits.
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Old 02-08-2014, 05:35 PM
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Not a lower line Ludwig either. Can't really tell just from the footboard what it might be, although my first thought was an older Tama.

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Old 02-08-2014, 06:05 PM
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Almost looks like a clone of an older model Pearl pedal. But no, not a Ludwig.
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Old 02-08-2014, 06:58 PM
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The indentation on the footboard looks like it might have had a Pearl logo there, good call alparrott!

Doesn't look like it's in great shape though, I would avoid it just on principle for being an older pedal and probably having the fit and smoothness problems older pedals do.

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Old 02-08-2014, 07:05 PM
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Definitely looks like a Pearl.

In addition to what Bermuda said, I'd avoid it primarily because it looks like the slave linkage is completely severed just to the left of center and only held together by that tape.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:15 PM
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For 10dollars your not being scammed, anything more than that, yes. how much is he asking?
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Old 02-08-2014, 10:47 PM
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It appears to have a quick-release hoop clamp. Yamaha puts these on some of their pedals. I could not find this pedal anywhere, but the angles of the cuts in the foot board could be Yamaha, or a copy of a Yamaha. I don't think it is Pearl. I have been a Pearl user since 92, and don't recognize it as a Pearl product. I don't think Pearl ever had a quick-release hoop clamp either.

Something makes me think this pedal is a cob-job. The top part of the spring assembly looks newer, and the driveshaft has some type of screw in the cv joint.
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Old 02-08-2014, 11:12 PM
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Yeah, I didn't say it *was* a Pearl -- just that it looked a copy. The footboard grip pattern is not Pearl, and as MIP pointed out, Pearl pedals of the type that is being copied didn't have QR hoop clamps. Additionally, the upright frames on the pedals probably would have been black with a late 80's/early 90's Pearl double-chain pedal.

I think it's worth a good laugh and a stick of gum and aught else.
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Old 03-06-2014, 04:28 AM
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In the "Show Us You Tiny Kit" thread, this exact pedal, in single form, is on the tiny kit posted by Doom, post #255. Perhaps he can tell us what this is exactly.
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Old 03-06-2014, 04:43 AM
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I'll guess early MAPEX.
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Old 03-06-2014, 06:43 AM
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It does look like it might be a Pearl copy or something, mainly because of that "swoosh" pattern on the footboard- looks similar to the swoosh that's on the Eliminator PowerShifter as well as many of their lower lines before they made the footboards resemble the Demon Drive footboard last year.
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I found the answer, it is a Ddrum Dominion double.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:50 PM
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I found the answer, it is a Ddrum Dominion double.

No points tho, unless you have substantial proof. ☜
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:33 PM
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No points tho, unless you have substantial proof. ☜
Here you go:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums...-hardware-pack
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Old 04-24-2014, 12:28 AM
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No points tho, unless you have substantial proof. ☜
Or, you know, you could Google the image and see that he's correct in about 3 seconds.
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Old 04-24-2014, 03:33 AM
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Looks like a pedal I just received with a ddrum kit.

Someone indicated that it might be a stagg though.
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Old 04-24-2014, 03:45 AM
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Unless they are giving you the pedal for free, I would find something else.

On second thought, unless they are paying YOU to take the pedal, just walk away. That thing belongs in a dumpster, not behind a bass drum.
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:16 AM
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Looks like a pedal I just received with a ddrum kit.

Someone indicated that it might be a stagg though.
Your new kit pics is what led me to look at DDrum hardware. It is for sure a DDrum Dominion pedal, unless Musicians Friend is wrong. I highly doubt it though.
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:52 AM
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I tried to google but my phone is runnin a bit slow. Founds this though:

http://www.varietymusic.com.au/tour-...ive-chain.html

That site says its legacy. Either way mine is the same as OP's and I would avoid because mine was seemingly put together by a drunk person - the cam is set incorrectly on the shaft and I think it needs to be dismantled to be fixed.

Also he guy is a shark, I wouldn't buy his pedal even if I thought it was okay - it's clearly not a ludwig.
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It is at least a double-chain design, but I agree with the consensus here: it's not a Ludwig, it doesn't look good otherwise, probably stay away.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:48 AM
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Perhaps Legacy is an offshoot of Ddrum, like all those stencil kits that Pearl made. The two pedals appear to be identical.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:38 AM
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Yeah probably. A large percentage of drum hardware comes from the same factory.

I also got some tom arms with that kit and they're identical to my yamaha ones apart from the actual rod part.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:37 PM
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Obviously something wrong here. Walk away and don't look back.
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