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Old 02-17-2014, 05:25 PM
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After a year of not smoking....alas I have returned to the habit!

I feel dreadful emotionally...

I tried so hard but oh well, maybe I will try again another time

But after a year without a single cigarette I did NOT feel better or healthier

Some smokes are really cheap so I didnt notice the savings made

I guess its just when you consider your children

That should be reason enough to give up
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:32 PM
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Auntie Madge is very disappointed in you :(
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:35 PM
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I think I haven't expressed my view on smoking on this forum yet...

To sum it up: It's among the absolute dumbest things you can do on this planet unless somebody is pointing a loaded weapon at you and forcing you to smoke.

STOP IT! Immediately. What a no-brainer.

Congrats for staying abstinent for quite some time! My father kept quitting for years - quit for months, then picked it up again. He's 'clean' for good now.

I never smoked except for 1 time when I tried a cigarette - don't laugh - I was encouraged to do so by my father, I was under 10 years of age at that time. I had to cough like a madman - that lesson was enough.

You don't want to waste your money, throwing it into the mouth of a greedy industry, and - most importantly - contribute to ruining your health, do you?
PAYING money to KILL yourself in small increments - just say 'no'. (*raising my middle finger towards the tobacco industry*)
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:47 PM
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Your words have actually reached me Arky

Very rare that I take notice of someones words about smoking
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:52 PM
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I just expressed my view on smoking.
Might have misinterpreted your individual situation - sorry.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:53 PM
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Drumkat, don't beat yourself up about it. Sometimes it's not the right time. Well done for managing for a year.

I'm a smoker. I know it's a bad idea - believe me. My mother was a smoking cessation counsellor. One of the points she used to make was that for some people it just wasn't the right time or they would slip because of life situations. I know right now that I couldn't quit - I just don't want to and couldn't even if I did want to.

So well done for managing for a year. Well done for admitting that you're upset at the moment. Maybe in time you'll manage again.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:58 PM
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I just expressed my view on smoking.
Might have misinterpreted your individual situation - sorry.
Arky, you have NO need to apologise

I thank you for your honesty

If I didn't want to hear both sides of opinions, I never would have posted
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DKat I started and stopped about ten times before I stopped for good. That was about 10 years ago and for me I definitely felt better. Like Duncan said though, it might not be time, but I would have to ask what made you start again? Was there a stressful event that caused this or just oh well. In order to stop smoking you have to stop buying. Try that as the first step.
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Old 02-17-2014, 06:59 PM
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DKat I started and stopped about ten times before I stopped for good. That was about 10 years ago and for me I definitely felt better. Like Duncan said though, it might not be time, but I would have to ask what made you start again? Was there a stressful event that caused this or just oh well. In order to stop smoking you have to stop buying. Try that as the first step.
Hey boss

I have NO idea why I started smoking again

I think there was the urge all the time but I had the ability to resist

I am doing more night shift at work now

it is the drive home in the morning that REALLY makes me want to smoke
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:19 PM
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Stop being weak. Stop smoking. If you think playing drums is tough try doing it strapped to an o2 tank.

I was 3 packs a day at two points in my life so don't say "You don't understand, man!"...um, yeah, I do.
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:27 PM
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Stop being weak. Stop smoking. If you think playing drums is tough try doing it strapped to an o2 tank.

I was 3 packs a day at two points in my life so don't say "You don't understand, man!"...um, yeah, I do.
3 PACKS A DAY!

Holy moly, that is serious dude!

I am weak...no doubt about that!

Hats off to you to kick such a serious habit....So BillRay, how did you quit?

Did you just do it in one go or did it take a few times?
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:17 PM
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I feel for you, I know it must be extremely difficult the way people describe trying to quit. The reason I never started smoking is, amazingly, the same reason I never started stabbing my eyballs with a fork.
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Old 02-17-2014, 09:46 PM
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Please stop smoking.

I never smoked and I have been a chronic asthmatic my entire life. Many trips to the ER late at night having trouble breathing. Always have an inhaler nearby. However, I've noticed something in recent years. When I was younger there were virtually no restrictions on smoking anywhere. Even though my parents did not smoke, we had plenty of ashtrays and lighters in the house. Of course, that has changed in recent decades. Now, where I live, smoking is banned almost everywhere. I can live my entire life with no exposure to smoke if I want, and I do. Not only have I not been to an ER for asthma in almost 20 years, but I also barely use my inhaler. In recent years, they tend to expire rather than get used up.

You have my sympathy regarding your addiction. I have seen many people close to me struggle greatly with it, until they died from it. Of course, I have seen some successfully quit. Please stop, for yourself and for those around you.

One final story: I used to ride the train to work. At that time, smoking was banned on the trains, but nowhere else. Once we pulled in to the station downtown (amidst about 16 trains), people getting off would light up instantly. It was like running a gauntlet of smoke to get out of the station and get to work. Eventually, smoking was banned in the station, including the outdoor areas where the trains pulled up. As soon as that happened, when I got off the train, I was overwhelmed by the stench of diesel fumes. Remember, there were about 16 trains. The lesson? Prior to this time, the cigarette smoke was so thick, you could not smell the fumes from 16 diesel locomotives. I think many smokers don't realize how much they 'stink'.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:33 PM
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My condolences to you for succumbing and my sympathy to you for engaging in the hardest vice there is to quit. I abhor tobacco, I hate the tobacco companies even worse, and I feel for the people that cigarettes enslave. Dirtiest most disgusting habit I can think of. There's not one good thing about it.

Lol at bud7h4's comment:

The reason I never started smoking is, amazingly, the same reason I never started stabbing my eyballs with a fork.

Pretty friggin funny man.

I'm happy to say I've never given a penny to Big Tobacco. F them for making massive profits at the expense of our health.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:51 PM
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Drumkat, sorry to hear about this. Addiction is something I have not experienced, and I don't know where you are coming from. I will say, I know just as many people who have lost their lives due to complications from smoking, as I know who claim to be nearly unaffected from smoking. This is a decision that only you can try to make for yourself. My only personal complaint is that I can't really stand the smell of smokers. I would of course encourage you to quit, but I would never tell you what you should or should not put into your body. You are not weak for being addicted/smoking, that kind of attitude will only hurt you even more.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:07 PM
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I knew a guy that smoked a long time, and then succeeded in quitting. 5 years after stopping, the guy developed lung cancer and died from it. You can't put a price on the lost life at the hands of tobacco.

I always hated the smell of it so I never started. I tried it of course, but no, yuck. My 22 YO son used to smoke, much to my horror, but recently substituted one of those devices where you can buy your own oil and just huff nicotine vapor and flavoring. It does seem to be the lesser of the 2 evils, but nicotine is a poison all by itself. I don't trust the flavorings either, they can't be good for you. So it's a lateral move, those smoking devices. My son has one that looks like a "chamber" pot pipe from the 70's, only straight. In a way, those things, and e cigs, are worse, because people do them in public and I'm sorry but they do have a sickly odor about them. And people around them are still inhaling 2nd hand smoke.

But then you get the people who smoke well into their 80's.

Some people die from it, some don't. Go figure.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:07 PM
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I smoked for years,and finally ,I gave it up,after quitting 3 times.I just started cutting down,the amount of cigs I permitted my self to smoke on a given day.I also left the rest of the pack in the car.When i did buy smokes,I'd buy the cheapest ,most vile tasting stuff I could find.

I'd take a few drags,and but the cigarette out.When it was time to smoke again,say after two hours,I'd light up the same vile tasting cigarette,that I put out an hour ago,and so on and so on.

You also have to realize what your triggers are.Getting in to the car,after a meal,with a beer,when your upset,after play your drums.ect.Smokers ALL have triggers.Identify them,and take action,like no smoking in the car.No smoking in the house.No smoking after a meal .No smoking with a cup of tea/coffee.

Climb a few sets of stairs,and when you're breathing really hard,lite up and inhale deeply.You'll cough out one of your lungs.

I have COPD,from working at ground zero on and after 9/11.My breathing isn't terrible,but gets worse in certain weather,like high heat and humidity.

If you want to know what how that feels,take a deep breath,....now try to take another one.Or take a coctail straw,like the one you get in a pub,pinch your nose closed,and try to breathe through the straw,while you're playing your drums.No...I'm not kidding.

Make it as vile and inconvienient as possibe,to continue smoking,till it's no longer a pleasureable,and relaxing thing to do.Be tough on your self,and you'll thank yourself later,when you can enjoy your grandkids....and enjoy playing drums with getting completely out of breath.

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Old 02-17-2014, 11:16 PM
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Wow Steve powerful post man. Tragic story about the COPD. And the straw thing made me freak out imagining it.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:20 PM
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Steve, a strong post.

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Thanks guys.I too .would just love it if the US banned tobaco products,and smoking.The American pharmacy chain of CVS,is banning the sale of tobaoo products in ALL of their stores.Other chains like Wallgreens,which also owns other chains like Duane Reid,are also,strongly considering the same move.

This ban,has tremendous public support,so it's likely to happen,in other corporate chains,as CVS sales,have slready gone up,in a show of support.They know the'll lose money,on loss of tobacco sales,but,the'll make it up in other areas.

NY City,is considering a ban on smoking in public.You already can't snoke in buildings,restaurants,bars and public parks...why not go all the way.

Drumkat...do all you can to fight this addiction.It will be so worth it in the long run.

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NOOOOOOO, don't start again! I quit almost 4 years ago and I have never looked back.
Yesterday I was helping my Bro-in-law and my Nephew repair my Nephew's pickup truck. They were both smoking cigs and I was getting sick just smelling the smoke. My throat was scratchy and my eyes were burning. I couldn't wait to finish the job.
What should have been a rewarding family experience was made sickening to me by cigarets.
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3 PACKS A DAY!

Holy moly, that is serious dude!

I am weak...no doubt about that!

Hats off to you to kick such a serious habit....So BillRay, how did you quit?

Did you just do it in one go or did it take a few times?
Understand that smoking is a ritual. There's many actions that have nothing to do with smoking but have everything to do with your habit. The opening of the pack, pulling it out, tamping the end, putting it to your lips, fidgeting with your lighter, flicking the lighter or match all happen before that first drag.

When you say "don't smoke" your brain hears "smoke". Instead of saying "I'm not going to smoke" say "I'm going to make healthier choices" so the word never appears. And understand that you don't "quit" a habit but rather "replace" it. So you must replace that bad habit with one that is positive.

I quit five minutes at a time. Every time I wanted a cig I made myself wait five more minutes.

It's a lot of willpower required to do this though. Your mettle will be tested. Don't let the bastards win, I'm tellin' ya!

Wanna know what's even harder to quit? Gnawing your fingernails.

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Old 02-18-2014, 04:39 AM
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NOOOOOOO, don't start again! I quit almost 4 years ago and I have never looked back.
Yesterday I was helping my Bro-in-law and my Nephew repair my Nephew's pickup truck. They were both smoking cigs and I was getting sick just smelling the smoke. My throat was scratchy and my eyes were burning. I couldn't wait to finish the job.
What should have been a rewarding family experience was made sickening to me by cigarets.
I saw your playing on YouTube (I play what I feel...)

If quitting smoking will make me play like you

Then I just had my last cigarette!
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I quit five minutes at a time. Every time I wanted a cig I made myself wait five more minutes.
You may be onto something there BillRayDrums...
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Drumkat, you are a drummer. I believe in you.

As the others have said, not to nag but to further the point, smoking has no benefits whatsoever. If you are going through a lot its understandable, but play more drums if you can, or take a walk, it clears your head better and relaxes the body and mind rather than killing it. Or maybe just find another goofy little habit to counter smoking like making tea or something.

Plus, you could afford more drum stuff! That can cheer up anybody!

But think on this: What's there to gain from putting yourself back in those old stinky/poorer shoes?
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Drumkat,

You need an incentive to change (other than health reasons). So when I quit 3 years ago, I calculated my average monthly spent on tobacco. Which, in Australia, is quite a lot.. Then I opened a separate bank account and have been transferring the amount that I saved by not smoking into the new account every month. That's my drum fund. So whenever I feel the urge, or wonder why I gave up, I look at my drums. That's why.

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You need an incentive to change (other than health reasons). So when I quit 3 years ago, I calculated my average monthly spent on tobacco. Which, in Australia, is quite a lot.. Then I opened a separate bank account and have been transferring the amount that I saved by not smoking into the new account every month. That's my drum fund. So whenever I feel the urge, or wonder why I gave up, I look at my drums. That's why.

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Hey Dutch,

I really really need to quit hey

I am a Registered Nurse in Intensive Care

I see end stage COPD in patients

They end up in a bad bad way....yet I still freakin' smoke

It is nowhere near the amount I used to smoke but still...

God I am such a total idiot

I will get myself in the right headspace and try again ASAP

I can remember recently one patient who hung himself

He was still alive but was brain dead

I remember having to turn off life support with his 14yr old daughter standing next to me

Her daughter cried in my arms for about an hr

My uniform was soaked in her tears

That was one trigger that got me back on the ciggies

That situation affected me deeply

I know it is NO excuse, but at the time it seemed the one way to get through it all
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Hey Dutch,

I really really need to quit hey

I am a Registered Nurse in Intensive Care

I see end stage COPD in patients

They end up in a bad bad way....yet I still freakin' smoke

It is nowhere near the amount I used to smoke but still...

God I am such a total idiot

I will get myself in the right headspace and try again ASAP

I can remember recently one patient who hung himself

He was still alive but was brain dead

I remember having to turn off life support with his 14yr old daughter standing next to me

Her daughter cried in my arms for about an hr

My uniform was soaked in her tears

That was one trigger that got me back on the ciggies

That situation affected me deeply

I know it is NO excuse, but at the time it seemed the one way to get through it all
Yes, you are an idiot. Quit smoking now!!!

I meant that with much love and respect. I used to smoke for several years myself. I had my last one about 13 years ago. I tried to quit 3 times before it finally worked.

For the final attempt, I had a sort of method that I used that I didn't really realize was a method at the time. I've heard of folks smoking one less cigarette per day until they are down to zero. I sort of did that unintentionally.

I picked a date a few months out (I honestly don't remember that date now) and told myself I was going to quit on THAT DAY. At first, I didn't change anything about how many I smoked per day. Eventually I did smoke a few less every day. I have often wondered if telling myself that I was going to quit had something to do with that. I think overcoming the mental addiction aspect of it is a huge part of it.

Once I had that out of the way so to speak, I just had to deal with the physical withdrawal for just a couple weeks.

I hope this helps you in some way.

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... but recently substituted one of those devices where you can buy your own oil and just huff nicotine vapor and flavoring. It does seem to be the lesser of the 2 evils, but nicotine is a poison all by itself. I don't trust the flavorings either, they can't be good for you. So it's a lateral move, those smoking devices. My son has one that looks like a "chamber" pot pipe from the 70's, only straight. In a way, those things, and e cigs, are worse, because people do them in public and I'm sorry but they do have a sickly odor about them. And people around them are still inhaling 2nd hand smoke.

But then you get the people who smoke well into their 80's.

Some people die from it, some don't. Go figure.
I have been using one of those vaporizer/e-cig devices since before thanksgiving. I think it has its plusses and minuses. For one it isn't smoke, just a liquid-vapor. There is a lingering cloud, like cigarettes, but it dissipates fairly quickly. I wonder if I can drown from it?
It also seems "healthier" if you will. There was still a withdrawal period for me, probably from the 132,165,498,421 other things in cigarettes, but definitely not the nicotine withdrawal. The switch was fairly easy. And it doesn't hurt in the morning.

My family has many smokers and many not. Some have died from something related, some from something not. It really seems like a crap shoot. I have been dealing with it for 20 years now myself. I like the e-cig. Real cigarettes are a bit gross to me now.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:02 PM
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I gave up smoking in late 1976 after smoking 2 packs a day for 4 years pretty steadily. I agree with all stating you have to be ready or have a decision gate to push you into doing so. Mine was a terrible cold and I remember being at work and feeling totally like dog doo trying to get through the first cig of the day. I thought to myself "This is insane" and gave up on the spot. I'm glad it was not that difficult at a young age to do so.

Still, about 2 to 3 times a year, I'll be dreaming and realize that I'm smoking. I get so mad at my dumb dream self for picking up this terrible habit again after being off for so many years. It is not as though I miss it at all but I guess it is still buried in the subconscious.

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Yes, you are an idiot. Quit smoking now!!!

I've heard of folks smoking one less cigarette per day until they are down to zero. I sort of did that unintentionally.

I picked a date a few months out (I honestly don't remember that date now) and told myself I was going to quit on THAT DAY. At first, I didn't change anything about how many I smoked per day. Eventually I did smoke a few less every day.
No need to explain your Idiot statement....you are RIGHT!!

Us Aussies are tough skinned

That idea of smoking less per day is actually a really, really good idea!
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:33 AM
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When I was younger (teens/20's), I actually tried to get addicted to smoking. Almost everyone I knew smoked. Strangely, I just did not get addicted. Fast forward to 6 years ago, I lost my mother, my son was taken from me, I lost my job and eventually the family home. Drinking heavily to try and kill the pain, I picked up the smokes and before I knew it, they were an everyday part of my life.

I have not been able to stop yet, I know a 1000 reasons to quit and not a good one to continue, but right now I am not ready. I was sober for 9 years and took this back up again, there will be a time to stop both, just not now. I will know when it is.

Beating yourself up will do no good. You have time, the lungs are a remarkable organ, they repair themselves after an amount of time.

I wish you luck and success in whatever you do.
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Old 02-19-2014, 04:28 AM
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I feel your pain, drumkat. I've quit I don't know how many times and end up going back for some reason or another. I spend as much time "quitting" as I do smoking. I even picked it up again after two and a half years free of that stinking mess! I've just cleared the 2 year mark and think I'm over it this time. I'm on the East Coast US and packs run $5-7USD; I figured my savings to be approx $2500+ annual. Ridiculous. In the past, I had tried about everything to quit; gum, lozenges, patches, cold turkey, etc. In the end, it's all a matter of choice and will power. Best of luck to you on your journey.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:00 AM
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When I was younger (teens/20's), I actually tried to get addicted to smoking. Almost everyone I knew smoked. Strangely, I just did not get addicted. Fast forward to 6 years ago, I lost my mother, my son was taken from me, I lost my job and eventually the family home. Drinking heavily to try and kill the pain, I picked up the smokes and before I knew it, they were an everyday part of my life.

I have not been able to stop yet, I know a 1000 reasons to quit and not a good one to continue, but right now I am not ready. I was sober for 9 years and took this back up again, there will be a time to stop both, just not now. I will know when it is.

Beating yourself up will do no good. You have time, the lungs are a remarkable organ, they repair themselves after an amount of time.

I wish you luck and success in whatever you do.

It sounds like you are hurting

I am no longer living with my children

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Understand that smoking is a ritual. There's many actions that have nothing to do with smoking but have everything to do with your habit. The opening of the pack, pulling it out, tamping the end, putting it to your lips, fidgeting with your lighter, flicking the lighter or match all happen before that first drag.
Man, all of this verbage makes me want to light up. :P

When you say "don't smoke" your brain hears "smoke". Instead of saying "I'm not going to smoke" say "I'm going to make healthier choices" so the word never appears. And understand that you don't "quit" a habit but rather "replace" it. So you must replace that bad habit with one that is positive.
good idea. use positive self-talk instead of negative - much like " I will not forget...." versus " I will REMEMBER.."

I quit five minutes at a time. Every time I wanted a cig I made myself wait five more minutes.

It's a lot of willpower required to do this though. Your mettle will be tested. Don't let the bastards win, I'm tellin' ya!

Wanna know what's even harder to quit? Gnawing your fingernails.

Best of luck.
I smoke cigarettes yet it's an occasional thing and don't I consider myself a "smoker". Sometimes I'll go weeks or a few times months without one, and the pack I have goes stale.

On the other hand, the vast majority of people who see myself or anyone like me smoking, automatically categorize them as life-long two pack a day smokers. The social stigma.

Using the same logic, everyone who has a drink is automatically a drunk. Not quite fair.

I genuinely feel bad for those who are addicted, heavy smokers.

Also, I can't stand second-hand smoke. It makes me gag, even if I'm smoking myself.

Overall, life is short and too short for me to suggest others how to live their own. We all know the possible consequences of smoking.
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Old 02-19-2014, 08:22 AM
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I'm a smoker. I smoke 3 - 5 cigs a day; rarely more, rarely less. A pack lasts me 5-7 days without fail and I've been smoking for 34 years. I love smoking and I love it with coffee...frankly I don't think I plan on quitting. I smoke the Marlboro Special Blend red variety and to me they taste wonderful. There are few things as enjoyable as lighting up on a cool night with a nice cup of coffee.

Am I dumb? Yes, I think so. I'm sure there will be a price to pay. The fiddler will catch up to me one day I suspect. There is nothing good about smoking even at my clip. No matter how you look at it, it is unhealthy and causes damage. It often makes me ask a very difficult question which is "what is it about myself that I don't value such that I'm willing to hurt myself with this behavior..." Not a pleasant question.

I hope you can drop your habit! It is not easy. Be smarter than someone like me who is stubborn and won't quit. No amount of justifying the behavior (like I do) will stop the cumulative effects to your health. Unfortunately, for some of us, it may take an event....a bad one....to tear us away from the powerful allure of the smoking process.

You *can* do it....make a list of all the reasons you have around you to be healthy and active!
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You guys that have replied to my thread are just beautiful, awesome people and bad ass cats for taking the time to respond to my feeble attempt to ask for advice.

Thank you to you all, it means a lot

By all means, keep the posts coming.....
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Drumkat, if you want to quit, have you asked TColumbia37 how he has managed it?
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Drumkat, if you want to quit, have you asked TColumbia37 how he has managed it?
I will pm him later on, many thanks
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if we were meant to smoke we would've been made with chimneys.
I enjoy occasional cigar or plant ionce or twice a year though.....
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