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Old 02-12-2014, 01:35 AM
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This may be an over-simplification of an idea but I am fascinated with Europe. The people, the politics. their history and culture.
I really hope to get to visit there before I'm too old to travel.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:41 AM
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The continent of Europe is actually 28 different countries, each with their own unique history and traditions. I have travelled Europe and Asia extensively and will tell you that you should definitely go. All you need is a backpack and a plane ticket. You wont regret it.
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You should stay on "The Gulf Coast" and enjoy the long term effects of the BP oil spill to the fullest!
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Be careful about calling some British people 'European', particularly around Surrey, Buckinghamshire and most of Yorkshire. You'd get a pretty sharp slap.
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I thought this thread might about about the band.

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I'm more fascinated by how European bands of the last 10 years seem more diverse and less trendy than their American counterparts. And that European fans will eat up large multi band festivals that have diverse range of bands, while we don't have too much of that over here.
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Fun fact about the countries with the alps in them. Their livestock, mostly cows, have evolved so that the legs on one side of their body are shorter than the other side so they can get around the mountains easier
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:16 AM
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Fun fact about the countries with the alps in them. Their livestock, mostly cows, have evolved so that the legs on one side of their body are shorter than the other side so they can get around the mountains easier
Our area is fairly mountainous, & cows legs are shorter on both sides so they don't have to reverse all the way home ;)
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Fun fact about the countries with the alps in them. Their livestock, mostly cows, have evolved so that the legs on one side of their body are shorter than the other side so they can get around the mountains easier
You know what they call a cow with shorter legs one one side, right?

Lean beef
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:47 AM
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You know what they call a cow with shorter legs one one side, right?

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Sounds like a girl from Norfolk I used to know...
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Fun fact about the countries with the alps in them. Their livestock, mostly cows, have evolved so that the legs on one side of their body are shorter than the other side so they can get around the mountains easier
This is true of sheep from Welsh hillsides too. If you go to a traditional Welsh butcher (supermarkets don't do it) you can buy "coes mawr" (big leg) or "coes bach" (little leg).
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I'm from Belgium - just putting that out there so you can put things into context.

If you want to go walking: do not go to Belgium, Northern France, the Netherlands. I mean, it is a nice area, and it is peaceful, but it is not astonishing. If I were to go somewhere for walking and enjoy nature, it would most probably be Ireland or Scotland, possibly Wales or Iceland. German forests are thick and very atmospheric as well. In the South I can advise you Ile de Ré, which is very nice. I have spent two weeks in Jersey (not New Jersey, mind you) off the coast of France and it is very nice as well.

If you want culture/history, any country will do. Every country, every city even, has its own cultural habits and customs. Personally I think our own, Belgian, culture is pretty nice - knowing that we only got our independence in 1830 and that we have been ruled by Prusians, French, Dutchmen, Spaniards and what not over the centuries.

If you want to go to festivals: Belgium for Rock Werchter, Pukkelpop, Groezrock, Blues Festival Peer. In the Netherlands they have Tommorowland (electronic music). Probably best-known is probably Sziget, which is a long festival in the summer in Budapest.

If you want to chill and just lie at a beach. Spain, southern France would do.
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Sounds like a girl from Norfolk I used to know...
Let me guess - Eileen?
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No offense meant, sir, but I think you misspelled "pints."
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You know what they call a cow with shorter legs one one side, right?

Lean beef
where I'm from goats have shorter legs on one side so they dont fall down the mountains. They are trained to never turn around.
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where I'm from goats have shorter legs on one side so they dont fall down the mountains. They are trained to never turn around.
How do they get home?
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:14 AM
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They keep on walking round the mountain until they get back to where they started.
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You'll love Europe. I think my favorite so far is either Biarritz, France or Amsterdam.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:39 AM
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You'll love Europe. I think my favorite so far is either Biarritz, France or Amsterdam.
I think you're right. I'd like to travel to several different countries and see the places my Dad served at the end of WW2 and during the Allied Occupation. My girlfriend wants to see Rome, I want to see the U.K., Brittany including the landing beaches and cemeteries in Normandy. Germany where my Father was stationed as a young soldier then off to a certain drum factory in Bad-Berleburg. Down to Switzerland for the majestic scenery by rail (and a certain cymbal/gong factory). Then down to Tuscany, Florence and Rome.

She's agreed to see the war history and percussion attractions if I look at the art galleries and statues.
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Although it's a World War 1 experience, I recommended either The Somme battlefields or Ypres. Both are simply amazing emotional experiences.
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:16 AM
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Although it's a World War 1 experience, I recommended either The Somme battlefields or Ypres. Both are simply amazing emotional experiences.
Oh I can imagine! In-fact I'm sure there are so many places that mark Human conflict that I could spend a very long time trying to visit each one. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Oh I can imagine! In-fact I'm sure there are so many places that mark Human conflict that I could spend a very long time trying to visit each one. Thanks for the recommendation.
In that case you absolutely MUST visit Ypres (especially this year being the centenary of the start of the Great War). A visit to the Menin Gate at sunset is something you'll never forget.
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In that case you absolutely MUST visit Ypres (especially this year being the centenary of the start of the Great War). A visit to the Menin Gate at sunset is something you'll never forget.
The Menin gate is something else. In Ypres they've made efforts to preserve the trenches in a relatively historical condition. It's a good idea of what they were like - without the obvious fears.

I went to The Somme with my school years ago. During the day, I saw some kids throwing stones at an object on a wall. I looked more closely and it was a hand grenade! Somebody has uncovered it, put it on the wall and left it there. Needless to say, I left. Quickly.

If you ever get a chance, visit the war cemeteries on both sides. The Allied graves are beautiful and sombre places. The graves of the German allies are entirely different - rather than open, wide spaces, they are much more compact - at least the one I visited was. A very stark contest and one that is harrowing but historically important.
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What struck me were the crowds. I didn't appreciate how much higher the population density is in Europe as compared with Australia. I lived near or in the inner city of Sydney for 15 or so years and the great cities of Europe like Rome, Paris and London are something else again. As is the history. I found the Roman ruins especially powerful.

I love how Europeans still listen to and appreciate art music (Eurovision notwithstanding).
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What struck me were the crowds. I didn't appreciate how much higher the population density is in Europe as compared with Australia. I lived near or in the inner city of Sydney for 15 or so years and the great cities of Europe like Rome, Paris and London are something else again. As is the history. I found the Roman ruins especially powerful.

I love how Europeans still listen to and appreciate art music (Eurovision notwithstanding).
Your face looking at the tube station entrances at rush hour is something I'll never forget...
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She's agreed to see the war history and percussion attractions if I look at the art galleries and statues.
If you go to Rome, then as well as the Forum and Coliseum which are obligatory, please visit the Villa Borghese. You have to book tickets in advance but it's worth the bother: it's my favourite art gallery ever (so far). We've been to Rome a few times but only got round to visiting it last year, and we can't forgive ourselves for having missed out on it before.
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You have to put London and Paris on your bucket list.You can take the chunnel,from London to Paris,in a short period of time.Besides the obvious tourist traps,the British War Museum is facinating.You can travel all over London on the underground on the cheap,but remember to..... mind the gap.:)

Remember when in Paris,when they say the trains stop at a certain time....they mean it.What ever station that train is stopped at,that's where it stays,and all passengers ,must get off the train.I don't know if it's still the same,but when I was there,you had to manually open the doors also.

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Yes i understand that the trains in Europe (esp. Switzerland) are very punctual. This would be a culture shock for me as an American!
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Your face looking at the tube station entrances at rush hour is something I'll never forget...
And I'll never forget what my face was looking at. Like a thousand ants crawling trying to climb into a small entrance of the ant hill all at once ... I'm so spoiled.

Out of curiosity, what was the look I gave?
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The continent of Europe is actually 28 different countries, each with their own unique history and traditions.
So far I lived in 4 different countries in Europe... only 24 to go :)

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Yes i understand that the trains in Europe (esp. Switzerland) are very punctual. This would be a culture shock for me as an American!
Yep, Swiss trains are very punctual, I was a railway engineer for 10 years in Switzerland and I can tell you that if a train is one minute late, people start moaning about it, in the UK if a train is one minute late ONLY, people miss the train :)

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And I'll never forget what my face was looking at. Like a thousand ants crawling trying to climb into a small entrance of the ant hill all at once ... I'm so spoiled.

Out of curiosity, what was the look I gave?
Shock, horror, curiosity. It was... conflicted.
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