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Old 01-18-2014, 04:29 AM
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I am officially through trying to sell stuff on CL because off all the miserly self entitled slackers! Today I was trying to sell a nameless snare in new condition still in the box, I marked it down 22% of anywhere you could find it new online. Some @$$clown comes to look and only living about a mile away was only 25 minutes late from the time we agreed on, why is it so hard for anyone to be punctual these days? Anyway as soon as he walked in I could tell what I was dealing with. Then as soon as he asked what I was asking I said to myself "here we go". I replied $XXX just like it said in my add and he said well I can get it brand new online for 9 bucks more. I called BS and said show me, after fiddling with his"smartphone" for 5 minutes he show me a pic of the same snare in a smaller size in an expired e-bay add plus shipping. I was completely dumbfounded that anyone could be so stupid. I said well I really don't care what you can dig up on your stinking phone this one right here is going for $XXX firm. I was just about ready to tell him to leave then he replied well I'll think it over and left. He probably did not even have what I was asking to begin with and thought he could talk me down even though my add said FIRM,
So I pulled my add and just decided to keep my snare, one nice thing about not really having to sell. Because of this and many other twits like this I am not going to even try selling anything on CL anymore. Anyone else have horror stories like this? Whats wrong with people today?
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:33 AM
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"I will give you 100 for the black beauty."

Snare sells about 800 new, it is a Super Sensitive. 400-500 is a good price on the used market in excellent condition.

Mostly I have had good results on CL, until recently. Lately its been either no responses or stupid responses.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:03 AM
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Hmmm, you gotta thicken your skin. Especially for low ballers. Think about it, its easy for them to sit on their butt and fire off some absurd low number in email and see what happens. They are just trying you out.

It sucks to read their emails, but I simply delete, immediately, or no reply. They are a joke. Sometimes I reply that they are dreamers and have no idea what they are talking about.

Now not showing up. That's way worse.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:46 AM
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I never use Craigslist when you are showing up with cash for a transaction. A guy I know locally was robbed at gunpoint when he went to purchase a laptop. He was with his girlfriend and they were both lucky to walk away alive. I know a lot of people have great success and purchases with Craigslist, but it's a safety issue for me.
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I've never purchased from CL but I have sold, cash only...in the several times I have sold, I have them meet me where I work during lunch time; public place, lots of people coming and going and I tell them up front not to show if they think they will drive me down on price. Let's not waste either of our time.

The 1 or 2 times I've had folks come to the house to purchase, I've done the transaction right outside the garage door entrance in the driveway on Saturday afternoons....my 90lb american bulldog and 75lb gsd/pit mix are hanging out right there in the open garage and everything goes smooth and cordial. You cannot be too careful with CL liaisons and I leave nothing to chance...especially when you are inviting an unknown person to your residence.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:10 AM
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I am a low-baller, and I try to get the best price I can. I'm also a realist, and I know when I see a price, I can get it maybe for 20 to 30 less than the price shown if they are motivated to sell. I hate it when people say the price is "firm". They are not motivated sellers and won't negotiate. I mean, wtf, is this a brick-n-mortar store? Why wouldn't you negotiate? Bump up the price 20 bucks and negotiate. I usually don't even call these "firm-price" people anyway because these are the people who are difficult, and why the hell would you advertise a firm price on C/L anyway? That's not the way it works. Sorry.

As far as safety goes, I usually just buy music stuff from good neighborhoods where there are people like me. Safety has never been an issue, but I am very aware of those bad deals that have gone down now and then that you hear about. Some guy got shot and killed in front of his son a couple months ago over a cell phone deal. We're talking about getting killed over just a couple hundred bucks. Life is cheap.

My Tama drum set was advertised for 250 and I got it for 220. It was being advertised for a month and a half before I bought it, so the guy was willing to come down a little or else the thing won't sell. I personally would never buy a Black Beauty anywhere because I think those things are way over-priced, even used. When you think about what you can get in the 250 to 400 range, it would be silly for a guy like me to buy a Black Beauty.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:50 AM
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I am a low-baller, and I try to get the best price I can. I'm also a realist, and I know when I see a price, I can get it maybe for 20 to 30 less than the price shown if they are motivated to sell. I hate it when people say the price is "firm". They are not motivated sellers and won't negotiate. I mean, wtf, is this a brick-n-mortar store? Why wouldn't you negotiate? Bump up the price 20 bucks and negotiate. I usually don't even call these "firm-price" people anyway because these are the people who are difficult, and why the hell would you advertise a firm price on C/L anyway? That's not the way it works. Sorry.

As far as safety goes, I usually just buy music stuff from good neighborhoods where there are people like me. Safety has never been an issue, but I am very aware of those bad deals that have gone down now and then that you hear about. Some guy got shot and killed in front of his son a couple months ago over a cell phone deal. We're talking about getting killed over just a couple hundred bucks. Life is cheap.

My Tama drum set was advertised for 250 and I got it for 220. It was being advertised for a month and a half before I bought it, so the guy was willing to come down a little or else the thing won't sell. I personally would never buy a Black Beauty anywhere because I think those things are way over-priced, even used. When you think about what you can get in the 250 to 400 range, it would be silly for a guy like me to buy a Black Beauty.
In fairness to you, I would not say dickering for $20-$30 off the sellers price makes you a low baller. Especially off $250. If you were reasonable and a good dude, which you probably are, most guys are gonna go $20 or $30 down to accommodate the deal.
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I sell a lot of stuff on CL, and occasionally I'll buy. In our town, I don't usually bump into any safety factor or skeevy deals, and I tend to get what I ask for. Although the other day I did have someone wanting to buy a set of skis from me, who never showed, and stopped answering emails. That sucked.
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How could you not be happy w/CRAIGSLIST, its free?

Plenty of rants could be found about eBay.
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:00 PM
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I am officially through trying to sell stuff on CL because off all the miserly self entitled slackers! Today I was trying to sell a nameless snare in new condition still in the box, I marked it down 22% of anywhere you could find it new online. Some @$$clown comes to look and only living about a mile away was only 25 minutes late from the time we agreed on, why is it so hard for anyone to be punctual these days? Anyway as soon as he walked in I could tell what I was dealing with. Then as soon as he asked what I was asking I said to myself "here we go". I replied $XXX just like it said in my add and he said well I can get it brand new online for 9 bucks more. I called BS and said show me, after fiddling with his"smartphone" for 5 minutes he show me a pic of the same snare in a smaller size in an expired e-bay add plus shipping. I was completely dumbfounded that anyone could be so stupid. I said well I really don't care what you can dig up on your stinking phone this one right here is going for $XXX firm. I was just about ready to tell him to leave then he replied well I'll think it over and left. He probably did not even have what I was asking to begin with and thought he could talk me down even though my add said FIRM,
So I pulled my add and just decided to keep my snare, one nice thing about not really having to sell. Because of this and many other twits like this I am not going to even try selling anything on CL anymore. Anyone else have horror stories like this? Whats wrong with people today?
I've had my share of "craigslist people" too. Usually stuff over the phone; asking what the price was (when it's clearly in the ad), if they would take a trade for something like a dirt-bike, if I would take a check, etc.

What I find most shocking about your post is that you let this freak into your home. WTF?!

There are a lot of weirdos out there and now one of them knows where you live. I could be overreacting here but you just never know who these people know and/or what they're really up to.
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:56 PM
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I don't like bickering on price so I just decide what is the least I am willing to take for it and then try and sell at that price. If a month goes by and I still have it and really want to get rid of it then I might negotiate. I just listed it. The problem is is that these people don't feel like its a good deal unless they can talk you down some more. You could be selling the hope diamond for 50 bucks and they would still try and talk you down lower. Sorry but I am not going to feed someones ego and raise my price up 20 bucks so they can feel they talked me down so they can sleep at night.
I like craigslist and appreciate it unfortunately its all the weirdos like this that are ruining it for me. I just toss low ball offers in the trash when I get them . Don't get me started on e-bay. This guy was different, Like I said it was marked firm in my add but he probably did not have that and thought he could bicker and get me to go down to how much he had. It's usually an indicator of what you are dealing with when the person shows up in a car that's worth less than what you are selling. plus it looked like he had been wearing the same clothes for a month and smelled like an ash tray and fast food dumpster combined.
I am not usually worried about these guys because I carry a concealed .40 and my wife is in the other closed room with hers as well. But that is one of the reasons I wont be letting any of these people in my home anymore or if possible even know where I live. This guy made me feel uncomfortable, not scared, more angry than anything and was just generally offensive. I usually do all my transactions in the garage or meet in a public place but it has been cold here lately and was in a hurry because he said he could meet now, not three Fridays from now. Maybe if the economy gets better and people are not such tightwads but for now I will probably just keep what I have.
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I don't like bickering on price so I just decide what is the least I am willing to take for it and then try and sell at that price. If a month goes by and I still have it and really want to get rid of it then I might negotiate. I just listed it. The problem is is that these people don't feel like its a good deal unless they can talk you down some more. You could be selling the hope diamond for 50 bucks and they would still try and talk you down lower. Sorry but I am not going to feed someones ego and raise my price up 20 bucks so they can feel they talked me down so they can sleep at night.
I like craigslist and appreciate it unfortunately its all the weirdos like this that are ruining it for me. I just toss low ball offers in the trash when I get them . Don't get me started on e-bay. This guy was different, Like I said it was marked firm in my add but he probably did not have that and thought he could bicker and get me to go down to how much he had. It's usually an indicator of what you are dealing with when the person shows up in a car that's worth less than what you are selling. plus it looked like he had been wearing the same clothes for a month and smelled like an ash tray and fast food dumpster combined.
I am not usually worried about these guys because I carry a concealed .40 and my wife is in the other closed room with hers as well. But that is one of the reasons I wont be letting any of these people in my home anymore or if possible even know where I live. This guy made me feel uncomfortable, not scared, more angry than anything and was just generally offensive. I usually do all my transactions in the garage or meet in a public place but it has been cold here lately and was in a hurry because he said he could meet now, not three Fridays from now. Maybe if the economy gets better and people are not such tightwads but for now I will probably just keep what I have.
Thanks for the replies and thoughts guys!
I like the carry concealed...but still would never again let them go inside your home. You or your wife could get hurt or you could shoot someone, and with today's "Save the criminal" legal system could get in a lot of legal trouble.

Talk to them on the phone first, feel them out as human being and explain the dickering rules.

I don't mind all that much having folks come to the garage for a deal..if someone wanted to come back and try to hit my joint, it would be suicide. I think that becomes clear once they see the 4 legged militia :-)
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:20 PM
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The majority of CL transactions I've had have turned out great......................and like Les said, it's free. Most of my gear has been purchased used off CL

Unfortunately there are some lowlife scum that will take advantage of others and I think we've all heard plenty of the CL horror stories.

I'd rather buy local than fleabay, there may be safety issues........but if you are aware of your surroundings and plan accordingly, it should be ok..............................what I find funny is the guy selling beginner drums/cymbals for the price of a DW collectors................
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I always insist on meeting in the police station parking lot when doing deals on CL.
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I was trying to sell my vintage Fender Pro Reverb amp on craigslist. Someone started e-mailing me with lots of questions. Asked if I was interested in a trade plus cash. Said not. Then he offered to come over and make dinner for me and my wife. WTF ??
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I was trying to sell my vintage Fender Pro Reverb amp on craigslist. Someone started e-mailing me with lots of questions. Asked if I was interested in a trade plus cash. Said not. Then he offered to come over and make dinner for me and my wife. WTF ??
Sounds legit...............
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I never use Craigslist when you are showing up with cash for a transaction. A guy I know locally was robbed at gunpoint when he went to purchase a laptop. He was with his girlfriend and they were both lucky to walk away alive. I know a lot of people have great success and purchases with Craigslist, but it's a safety issue for me.
I ALWAYS arrange to meet in a public area, usually at peak traffic times. Guitar Center parking lot is a fave of mine, it happens to be centrally located to most people and there are cars and people everywhere.

I tend to suss out the lowballers early. I stay firm on my price, and the prices I've asked for have all been fair (50-60% off what it would cost new from the store).

Because I'm also a pretty big dude, it might give them second thoughts to try something with me. I guess that's an advantage. It is tricky and you have to be extremely careful, but until feebay does something to make it actually fair to sell stuff on their site without the sales getting sucked up by fees, this is the way I do it.
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craigs has become a joke. I currently have two beautiful kits, and two beautiful snares that just sit there with no buyers. Just scammers and low-ball offers.
I don't care because if I don't sell them, I still get to play them :)
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People are people, and some of them are going to try to lowball you, some are going to be late or flake out all together, and some are going to meet with you and then decide "no, nevermind." That's just the way it is. People are going to act the way they're going to act. Discouraged? No, it's a free internet service to bring people together, and there are no intrinsic rules--I'm actually thankful for the ease of use. Annoyed? Yeah, sometimes, but like I said, people are people, and you've got to roll with it.

If you're discouraged or disappointed, then your expectations of how your encounter is going to go are too high.
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Craigslist changes a lot depending on where you are. I've bought and sold plenty of gear through craigslist (I still own a DW/Craviotto, '70s LM402, Eliminator double pedal, a couple cymbals, my Mesa/Boogie and purple Splawn cab, some guitar pedals, microphones, a tube compressor, current audio interface, monitors...) and although I've had my fair share of dumbasses, I tend to ignore them since the good more than outweighs the bad.

When I was in Boston, it seemed like everyone was asking too much for their stuff and wouldn't negotiate at all, and when I was selling, people would constantly offer me half of what I was asking. Now that I'm back in NC, people are much more open to negotiating prices, including myself, and it's a much easier sale. There's also a ton more cool stuff for sale on NC craigslist. Shoot, there are at least three 70s Ludwig kits - maple, stainless, and Vistalite!

Half of the craigslist deal is being patient. I also think you're a bad seller if you're not willing to negotiate your price on a no-name snare. Generally, a good rule of thumb is to sell any used item (that's not particularly unique) for no more than 2/3 its original value; that means 33% off. It's your prerogative, but you come across as someone with an overinflated sense of pride if you're not willing to negotiate and it makes things more difficult than it needs to be.

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Old 01-20-2014, 07:27 PM
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I don't buy or sell much at all, but I have at times. I don't really mind the lowballers too much, because you can generally ignore them and cl IS free.

I have had a couple of people agree on a price, show up at the public meeting spot, and THEN try to talk me down, and that pissed me off. But otherwise, not a biggie.

Midnight Zephyrs' viewpoint enlightened me a bit. I'm not really a haggler, when buying OR selling. Tell me what you want for something, and if I think it's a good price I'll buy. Simple as that. I hate the haggling. So I always placed those "prices firm" ads. I figured it was a courtesy to offer everyone my best deal, not just those who haggled. It never really occurred to me that haggling was part of the pleasure for some people, so I'll be sure to inflate the price a bit next time I run an ad. lol
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I have low-balled, been low-balled, flaked, been flaked on, and bought and sold tons of things successfully on CL. I've used this forum as a means of credentials when I've asked to have things shipped. Some of the greatest deals, and finds I've gotten have been via adhuntr.com which is basically a site that lets you search ALL CL ads at once if you're looking for something specific.

I think, on the whole, that CL is way better than eBay especially when you are buying something as specific as drum gear. You tend to be dealing with like-minded people both in their obsession and thrift (for better or worse). Not saying that there aren't risks and problems, but I've been lucky so far.

As far as dealing with low-ballers. That's something you just have to accept. I have only dug my heels in on price a couple of times and they still ended up coming back to pay full price. But usually I list something for more than I expect to get anyway in order to pad the whole negotiating process. I even had one guy refuse my offer only to re-list an item months later for less than I orginally offered him. You won't always get exactly what you want, but that is the definition of a compromise. ;) In short, I love Craigslist....
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People are people, and some of them are going to try to lowball you, some are going to be late or flake out all together, and some are going to meet with you and then decide "no, nevermind." That's just the way it is. People are going to act the way they're going to act. Discouraged? No, it's a free internet service to bring people together, and there are no intrinsic rules--I'm actually thankful for the ease of use. Annoyed? Yeah, sometimes, but like I said, people are people, and you've got to roll with it.

If you're discouraged or disappointed, then your expectations of how your encounter is going to go are too high.
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I love the 'democratic' nature of it. Anybody can do anything. Actually, what I find most annoying/perilous is the people who don't know anything about what they are selling. I once saw an ad for a 'guitar for sale' for like $200 and they had a picture of a Martin. Of course, I called to ask for some details, like could they read the label inside, serial no., etc. The answer was , "um, it looks like the one in the picture". You just have to be careful.
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I buy sell and trade on Craigslist all the time. The difference between selling electronics and music gear is usually pretty great. Electronics, especially phones and laptops, can be very sketchy! I had a guy ask if I would meet him BEHIND a grocery store! Nope! Most musicians I have dealt with prefer safer meetings.

Low ballers are inevitable. The key is to mark up what you are selling 10-20% to get close to what you are asking. I have only once replied to an ad with an offer for full asking price. Sometimes people just want to feel like they got a good deal.

My only rant is when people list an item and say that calling or texting is the only method of contacting them, rather than email. I don't want you to have my phone number, unless we are going to make a deal. I don't want to talk to you for 20 minutes when I simply want to know one tiny bit of information you left out of your ad., such as the color of said item. If you don't use email, the internet is probably not the best method to sell your goods.
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I look at craigslist a lot for drums and cymbals. have not bought anything yet. I did sell some cymbals once and it worked out well. Mt in a well lit, busy parking lot. He asked me to knock off another 10 bucks on the spot, I said ok and he handed me the original amount in twenties anyway!! I think he screwed up.
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craigs has become a joke. I currently have two beautiful kits, and two beautiful snares that just sit there with no buyers. Just scammers and low-ball offers.
I don't care because if I don't sell them, I still get to play them :)
Sounds like you're over-valuing the items to sell, if you priced them in a way that a buyer thought he was getting a good deal on something they needed, they would sell. That's what irritates me about craigs. People (not necessarily you) really think you want to come meet them and pay 80-90% of the new value on the item. That's not what I or anyone I know go to craigslist for. It had better be at least in the 70% or lower range and that's if in good shape. Typically I won't consider a used item on that site for anything less than about half retail.

I guess like you, they don't really care if they sell the item or not. Maybe that's why over-priced stuff stays on there listed for months without a price drop.
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I guess like you, they don't really care if they sell the item or not. Maybe that's why over-priced stuff stays on there listed for months without a price drop.
Yeah I don't get this line of thinking. Either you want to sell something or you don't. I get really irritated when I am looking for something, find it, and it has no price. I will read the ad and it will say something along the lines of "just testing the waters, shoot me an offer or tell me what you got. Not in a hurry to sell." Especially with cars, I often wonder if these people are just trying to showoff what they have in an effort to look/feel good about themselves and what they own.

My other favorite is (with cars mostly) "I have a (insert year and model). Great car, 9/10, hot air/cold AC, new tires, aftermarket wheels, new tires, immaculate interior, title in hand, 25-30mpg. Does not run. $7500" WTF over?
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I was trying to sell my vintage Fender Pro Reverb amp on craigslist. Someone started e-mailing me with lots of questions. Asked if I was interested in a trade plus cash. Said not. Then he offered to come over and make dinner for me and my wife. WTF ??
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People (not necessarily you) really think you want to come meet them and pay 80-90% of the new value on the item. That's not what I or anyone I know go to craigslist for. It had better be at least in the 70% or lower range and that's if in good shape. Typically I won't consider a used item on that site for anything less than about half retail.

Absolutely. If I can go to a store that has to maintain a reputation, will have a selection of alternatives, will take a return and give a refund, has many legal and regulatory obligations, will take a credit card, honor a warranty, and provide service for a $100, why would I meet a stranger in a parking lot and give him $90 cash to never see him again? I think a lot people don't really understand everything that is in a retail price.
Similarly for ebay, although, at least many of those transactions have some reputation and return protections.
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Absolutely. If I can go to a store that has to maintain a reputation, will have a selection of alternatives, will take a return and give a refund, has many legal and regulatory obligations, will take a credit card, honor a warranty, and provide service for a $100, why would I meet a stranger in a parking lot and give him $90 cash to never see him again? I think a lot people don't really understand everything that is in a retail price.
Similarly for ebay, although, at least many of those transactions have some reputation and return protections.
Perfectly stated. A few times I've seen clowns doing the whole "got these for x-mas, no discount, full retail, cash only... But, hey, you won't have to pay sales tax!" thing. I should start sending those idiots your statement here.

In the end, lots of folks do use the site correctly by my assessment. I've gotten some really good deals on hobby items and music gear, I just have to be really patient, and try to ignore the fools who try and charge retail. Check often and when a truly good deal comes up, take it without haggling. Everyone leaves happy.
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I've posted a few ads and I have had a few messages like " can you do it cheaper coz i dnt have ajob."

But in Australia it's mostly the sellers who are the dreamers.
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Saw this thread just after returning home from selling a set of 2 year old A Custom cymbals via Craigslist.

The ad ran for about 2 weeks, and I got 2 responses. One was a phone call from a guy who acted as though he'd known me forever, asked if I was negotiable (I said yes), and then said he'd call me back. Never heard from him.

The second response was a text from a drummer in nearby Seattle. He left his name, and after Googling him I found several videos on YouTube of him playing with different bands. Good player and obviously a known guy in the area so I called him. My asking price was half what I'd originally paid for the lot because past experience has shown me that that's the most I can get if I make my way to a drum shop with them. That price was also 20% higher than I was willing to take.

I knocked off the 20% for the buyer and we made the plan to meet in the parking lot of my bank, which has two things going for it. It's easy to find and highly trafficked because it's next to the ferry landing from Seattle to where I live. Oh, and a third thing: It's 5 minutes from my home.

The buyer arrived over an hour early, which made me pretty damn happy actually. I drove down to the parking lot, and he stood with his cash in hand, a nice bundle of $100 bills, while I showed him the cymbals. He didn't need to hear them because he's the real deal and knows what they sound like. He just wanted to make sure they were in the "like new" shape I'd described.

We exchanged handfuls, and then I showed him something else that's been sitting in my trunk forever, an old early '90s Tama 13" power tom. Turned out he'd just bought a 1990 Tama Rockstar set so he bought that as well. (No, the colors didn't match, but the tom is silver and looks cool with everything.)

Phone/texting time for the whole deal after the CL ad was placed: 5 minutes tops.

Face to face time to perform the transaction in a safe and public environment: 15 minutes including travel time.

A good time and a good deal were had by all. I don't do a lot on CL, but I've learned to always meet on netural/safe ground whether I'm a buyer or a seller. And I think it's important to talk to the other party and get a sense of them and their attitude before getting together - especially if I'm selling something. I love my stuff almost the way I'd love a puppy and want to make sure it's getting a good home.
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Boy, you're a suspicious lot. I'll bring my gun if we ever have to deal.

Oh wait. I don't have a gun. Pig-sticker it is.
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I just posted an ad to sell some old drums. The pic showed a whole kit, but the ad was specific that only the drums were for sale. Not surprisingly, the only people who called were the ones who thought the whole kit was for sale for a $99. Dreamers, dream on.
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I just posted an ad to sell some old drums. The pic showed a whole kit, but the ad was specific that only the drums were for sale. Not surprisingly, the only people who called were the ones who thought the whole kit was for sale for a $99. Dreamers, dream on.
Well then, why don't you post a picture of what IS for sale instead of confusing the impulse repliers or ESL people? It would be more appropriate if you snap some pics of the shell pack, without the cymbals/hardware/whatever else is not included in the sale. It's kind of misleading to show the kit surrounded by lots of "extras" if they aren't included in the sale.

What I can't stand are the idiots who make ads like: "3 A Zildjian crash cymbals for $90" and when you open the ad, there is a 14" A crash for $90, a 16" for $120, and an 18" for $150. Um, that's NOT what your title suggests, you DB...
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I've sold all sorts of stuff on Craigslist (drums, cars, random other stuff) and met all sorts of people. Some don't argue the price, some make a fair offer, many give the most insulting offer they can think off. I usually end up trolling the lowballers via email until they give up. Someone eventually gives a fair offer. The key is patience. You'll get a lot of lowballers and phantom inqiries while waiting for the right buyer. Just don't be in a rush to sell and keep a firm bottom dollar limit in mind.
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Well then, why don't you post a picture of what IS for sale instead of confusing the impulse repliers or ESL people? It would be more appropriate if you snap some pics of the shell pack, without the cymbals/hardware/whatever else is not included in the sale. It's kind of misleading to show the kit surrounded by lots of "extras" if they aren't included in the sale.

What I can't stand are the idiots who make ads like: "3 A Zildjian crash cymbals for $90" and when you open the ad, there is a 14" A crash for $90, a 16" for $120, and an 18" for $150. Um, that's NOT what your title suggests, you DB...
I know, I realized that after one day, so I pulled the ad until I can get a picture of just the drums.
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I've bought and sold many things on CL. When selling, I usually ask about 20% more than what I really want. Sometimes they want to deal, sometimes I end up with more $$ than I anticipated.

I don't have a problem meeting in public or my place. I have a few items for "self-defense" around the house. Public places don't bother me. If I go to someone's house, I at least have a blade or something else in case the deal goes South. Only met at someone else's house twice. One time we did the deal on his front porch. The other time he showed me his studio and we bullshitted for over an hour.
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I have been trying to meet a decent woman off of craigslist. It hasn't happened yet.
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I've only done one sell transaction on Craigslist and it worked out quite nice for me. I'm 32 and I got a fella whose closer to my dads age to respond to my ad for a handful of Zildjian cymbals for sale. I had them price fairly high for used cymbals because they were brand new and never really used. They came with my kit and I wanted a different setup.

The fella called me up and expressed his excitement at finding my pair of Armand hats, he really enjoyed that series and no one seemed to have any. He came by the house and took a look at all my stuff, and he told me, when he saw the ad he thought the prices were a little high for used stuff, but now that he saw it and it basically like he'd get at retail, he paid up happily and I threw in a couple bits of light Yamaha hardware I wasn't going to use. He got a good deal, we both thought.

For buying, I'm not a lowballer, but I like to deal. Typically, since my town has little to no gear, I'm calling or emailing someone out of state. Some folks aren't interested in shipping, some are. Of those that are, there are those that want exorbitant amounts and those that are like "yah 15 bucks will cover it". Overall, craigslist has been a positive experience for me but I like to buy far more than sell. I have found my best deals on Craigslist, I've begged at least a couple of guys who were giving away cymbals basically, to ship to me and I wasn't trying to fraud them.
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