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Old 09-05-2012, 04:40 PM
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Default Zildjian Crash/Ride?

Hey all, I play jazz, fusion, and musical theater. I was curious if anyone knew of any nice 18/19" Zildjian crash/rides that you can really crash and really ride?

Thanks much!
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:00 PM
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I use a 20 K Custom Dark Ride that I can crash and ride on. I also had a beautiful Light Ride from the 70s that was very cool. Perhaps you should check out the 21 Sweet Ride?
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:28 PM
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I failed to mention I was looking for a smaller left side cymbal, around 18 or 19 inches.
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:50 PM
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I own the Zildjian 18" K Crash-Ride. I don't ride on it, and don't know what you expect in that regard, but it is a wonderful, full, heavy sounding crash. I liked it so much, I traded in the Zildjian A 18" Medium-Thin crash I had, and I never do that sort of thing. I also own a 17" K Dark-Thin crash, and compared to that, the Crash-Ride is more shimmery and not as trashy sounding. It may be the best crash I have ever owned.
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:57 PM
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I failed to mention I was looking for a smaller left side cymbal, around 18 or 19 inches.
there's an 18" k-custom crash/ride my old drumteacher owned and I played on our last gig.. Very great cymbal!!
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:26 PM
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The 19" Zildjian K Constantinople
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:50 PM
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I know I always recommend Sabian, and I am about to do it again. Check out the AA El Sabor 18". I use mine as a crash and a ride. It has the best bell I have ever heard or played. The ride sound is washy, but it does have ping. As for a Zildjian, check out the K Crash Ride. Peace and goodwill.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:36 PM
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I failed to mention I was looking for a smaller left side cymbal, around 18 or 19 inches.
I know you mentioned 18 or 19" cymbals, but I wouldn't let 1" get in my way if I found the sound I wanted in a 20", lol. A 20" cymbal is only 1/2" wider on each side. I agree with Bo, I use a Zildjian K Custom 20" dark ride that I accent a lot. It can also handle a little more stick if you want it to crash. Other than that, look at the 18" K crash/rides.

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Old 09-06-2012, 12:45 AM
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Sabian Omni? They're the same family, you know ;)

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Old 09-06-2012, 01:25 AM
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I use the Zildjian 21" Sweet Ride and that thing is amazing! It's so versatile! and I also heard the Zildjian K crash ride and Meinl Byzance series are amazing!
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:57 AM
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Zildjian probably should have classified the Sweet Ride as a crash/ride. Lots of people have positive things to say about it in that area.

I like most all of the K's I've tried, but don't know any of them well enough to give a specific recommendation.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:10 AM
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I have a 20" K Crash/Ride that does both pretty well, though I only use it for a crash in my rock projects.

But if you're looking for something smaller, I could recommend to you a 19" K Medium Thin Dark Crash. It has many of the same characteristics as my 20 K CrR, but smaller. Unfortunately, Zildjian stopped making them a couple years ago and they're not that easy to find. I actually have two of them (saved a search on eBay and 6 months later finally found one and won it; the other happened to show up on Craigslist a few weeks later).

I would be willing to part with the one more suited to what you're looking for. PM me if you're interested.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:08 PM
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Ive been playing the 20' K crash ride for a few months as my main left side crash, and I love it. I play in a rock n roll/ indie rock band. I use a 21' A sweet ride on my right side and thats it. The two are very similar in tone, although the sweet ride is louder/harsher, it also is an amazing crash/ride. Very heavy. The 20' K is lighter but sounds amazing. I dont like too much of a difference in tone between my left and right side so these two are a winning combo for me. I youre looking for a lot of ping, I wouldnt reccomend either of these cymbals. But for a nice blend of wash and attack these are great. Get the 20' K, you'll love it.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:15 PM
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Maybe look in to the Zildjian Armand "Beautiful Baby" Ride. It's 19".

I use one on my left side. It might work for you...with or without the rivets.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:53 AM
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i use the new 2013 20'' Zildjian A Medium Ride as a left side ride/crash. mine is super thin and sounds incredible.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Zildjian Crash/Ride?

The Sabian 'jazz ride' is also very crashable. Paiste giant beats are cool too.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:30 PM
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I have an 70s A Zildjian 20" crash-ride (2020 gms). It's very washy and hard to control as a ride. On the other hand, it's pitched low, and doesn't have the attack of a crash. It has a nice sounding bell and swells VERY well with mallets though. So its neither a crash nor a ride. It is what it is, a very unique cymbal which sidesteps classification.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:21 PM
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A medium ride? I've seen people really lay into those.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:10 PM
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A sweet ride or if you are open to brands an HHX groove ride.
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Old 08-23-2013, 12:21 AM
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I played the 19" K Constantinople yesterday and was very impressed.

Also check out the Istanbul Mel Lewis 19" Crash/Ride.
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: Zildjian Crash/Ride?

I just purchased a 19" Beautiful Baby Ride as a secondary ride, but I was very impressed with the clips. I can't imagine being disappointed by it. I also know the 19 K Constantinople is great too.

If you are willing to step outside the Zildjian make, both the Paiste Giant Beat and Paiste 20" 602 Medium Ride are excellent. If I could only take one, I'd take the 602, its about the crashiest ride I've ever seen.
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:47 AM
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I have an 70s A Zildjian 20" crash-ride (2020 gms). It's very washy and hard to control as a ride. On the other hand, it's pitched low, and doesn't have the attack of a crash. It has a nice sounding bell and swells VERY well with mallets though. So its neither a crash nor a ride. It is what it is, a very unique cymbal which sidesteps classification.
I just picked up one of those today for $20 off Craigslist. It was listed without a name. I had a feeling by looking at the picture that it was a vintage Zildjian A. For $20 I practically stole it from the lady, and I didn't tell her what it is.

But it's exactly as you describe here. So happy to have it!
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:37 AM
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I got the K Crash Ride in 20". I mainly use it as a darker washy ride but of course you can crash it too. The problem there is that it is REALLY loud. And gong-y. Like a dark brassy chiming grandfather clock followed by a sizzle wash.

You can hear it pretty well here. It is the only ride I've used, and around the 3:00 mark or so where I kick it into the heavy chorus that's when I'm really biting into it and it's swinging full force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPIIAoPAsXM
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:46 PM
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Z 19 inch custom cymbal.
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