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Old 05-29-2013, 09:35 PM
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Default Is it me or are the new Evans 360 G2 Coated heads sounding thinner?

Just bought these and replaced my older Evans G2 coated heads and man I can swear they sound thinner!

I've tried all kinds of tuning with my toms but I am not feeling these so far. Not sure if it's all just in my head! LOL
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:45 PM
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It might actually be all in your head, your drumhead that is! ;) There's a bit of talk going on about some Evans g2 sounding dead out of the box... I too use Evans, g12 heads however, but I have no problem with them.
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:31 PM
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It might actually be all in your head, your drumhead that is! ;) There's a bit of talk going on about some Evans g2 sounding dead out of the box... I too use Evans, g12 heads however, but I have no problem with them.

LOL.....well this was a huge difference. Not subtle! Big difference! Makes me wanna go back to REMO and see how they're doing these days.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:45 PM
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Its not just you. I am thinking the same thing but didn't wanna say anything for fear the "Evans are the best man learn how to tune dude thats the sound" crowd would scold me :)
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:05 PM
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I had some evsns g2 costed on my kit recently. Im not sure if they are 360 or not. They sounded dead unless i cranked them. I just put remo emps back on, the tuning range is far greater
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Is it me or are the new Evans 360 G2 Coated heads sounding thinner?

Evans heads have always sounded a bit thinner than Remo to me.
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:13 PM
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I had some evsns g2 costed on my kit recently. Im not sure if they are 360 or not. They sounded dead unless i cranked them. I just put remo emps back on, the tuning range is far greater

You'd know it if they were the new 360's or not. Says it real big right on the head. Can't miss it! LOL
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:44 AM
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You'd know it if they were the new 360's or not. Says it real big right on the head. Can't miss it! LOL
The earlier 360 heads were not labeled as such on the heads or boxes. I guess it was just one of those things that Evans thought that it might be a plausible advantage to their manufacture of their drum heads, especially the way they were promoted. What beginner wouldn't want a supposedly "easier" to tune drum head? For me personally after receiving the quantity of dead G2 coated heads, I'm slowly beginning to switch my G1 coated to Remo Ambassador coated and my G2 coated to Remo Emperor coated heads. I've already invested a small fortune on the conversion.

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Old 05-31-2013, 03:12 AM
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The earlier 360 heads were not labeled as such on the heads or boxes. I guess it was just one of those things that Evans thought that it might be a plausible advantage to their manufacture of their drum heads, especially the way they were promoted. What beginner wouldn't want a supposedly "easier" to tune drum head? For me personally after receiving the quantity of dead G2 coated heads, I'm slowly beginning to switch my G1 coated to Remo Ambassador coated and my G2 coated to Remo Emperor coated heads. I've already invested a small fortune on the conversion.

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I hear you Dennis! I just dropped a little bit of dough for my snare and toms today. I grabbed some Vintage Emperors. I have a feeling I will be spending much more money on other heads. I am still trying to find out what works best on my Grestch Renowns. I am wanting a deep ambient sound with short/medium sustain.

It may turn out that the Renowns are just not for me. Long story how I wound up with them.
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I hear you Dennis! I just dropped a little bit of dough for my snare and toms today. I grabbed some Vintage Emperors. I have a feeling I will be spending much more money on other heads. I am still trying to find out what works best on my Grestch Renowns. I am wanting a deep ambient sound with short/medium sustain.

It may turn out that the Renowns are just not for me. Long story how I wound up with them.
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Hi! Ive found pretty good results with the coated G plus all around and a GMAD on the kick...Of course I had my edges recut with a USA custom "type" edge... I would say they(g plus) provide the sound you are describing... but everybody hears it a little differently...
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Old 06-03-2013, 02:53 PM
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If you notice any difference in sound with Level 360, it would likely be a more open and resonant tone, not thinner. It is possible that you got some dead two-ply heads. I'll contact you via PM.

If anyone ever has any quality issues with Evans, please feel free to get in touch with me directly at Ben.smith@daddario.com.

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Old 06-03-2013, 03:19 PM
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If you notice any difference in sound with Level 360, it would likely be a more open and resonant tone, not thinner. It is possible that you got some dead two-ply heads. I'll contact you via PM.

If anyone ever has any quality issues with Evans, please feel free to get in touch with me directly at Ben.smith@daddario.com.

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Got your message Ben. Thank you very much. Greatly appreciated!
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:10 AM
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Just wanted to make sure everyone knew that I was sent a new batch of heads and they sounded fantastic. I just got that bad batch of bad heads. Happens every once in a while. But huge thanks to Ben and Evans for the excellent customer support and care for their clientele and product.
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:05 PM
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Just wanted to make sure everyone knew that I was sent a new batch of heads and they sounded fantastic. I just got that bad batch of bad heads. Happens every once in a while. But huge thanks to Ben and Evans for the excellent customer support and care for their clientele and product.
Glad to hear it!

If anyone ever has any issues with or questions about Evans products, feel free to drop me a line and I will do my absolute best to help you out.

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Old 07-09-2013, 05:29 PM
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I just got that bad batch of bad heads.
is that like winning the lottery?

how is that even possible?

were they ALL in a Combo Pack?
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:02 PM
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Glad to hear it!

If anyone ever has any issues with or questions about Evans products, feel free to drop me a line and I will do my absolute best to help you out.

Cheers

I have to commend Ben (Evans Specialist). He and his company really do make good on any complaint. That goes a long way in my book. I don't normally utilize the policy, but I did once. I had a head that pulled out of the collar. Hey nothing is perfect, it's how it's handled that separates the upstanding companies from the rest. Evans is an upstanding company and they have my business and loyalty because of their products and the way they stand by them and make it right when a less than perfect head slips past.

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Old 07-09-2013, 11:27 PM
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is that like winning the lottery?

how is that even possible?

were they ALL in a Combo Pack?
Believe me, it's possible. The Five Star drum shop where I bought mine can also attest to this by the number of returns that they had gotten.

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Old 07-10-2013, 04:24 PM
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Hey! I thought you guys might want to check out a review I made of 6 level 360 snare heads recently. Each head is placed back to back, 4 bars of each so you can hear exactly how they compare. I actually wasn't too sure on the G2, a lot fatter sounding with gel on it though.

See what you think http://blog.drumsource.co.uk/evans-l...drumhead-test/

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Old 07-10-2013, 04:41 PM
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I have to commend Ben (Evans Specialist). He and his company really do make good on any complaint. That goes a long way in my book. I don't normally utilize the policy, but I did once. I had a head that pulled out of the collar. Hey nothing is perfect, it's how it's handled that separates the upstanding companies from the rest. Evans is an upstanding company and they have my business and loyalty because of their products and the way they stand by them and make it right when a less than perfect head slips past.

Cheers all day long to Ben Smith and Evans heads.
You're too kind. Thanks the acknowledgment. Cheers!
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:54 AM
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Hey! I thought you guys might want to check out a review I made of 6 level 360 snare heads recently. Each head is placed back to back, 4 bars of each so you can hear exactly how they compare. I actually wasn't too sure on the G2, a lot fatter sounding with gel on it though.

See what you think http://blog.drumsource.co.uk/evans-l...drumhead-test/

Dan
super job on that vid... it really highlights everything well, and the playing is consistent and short enough to hear the differences easily

now you need to do the other brands : )
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:25 AM
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I've tried all kinds of tuning with my toms but I am not feeling these so far. Not sure if it's all just in my head! LOL
I bought some 360 G2 coated and G1 for my old Stage Custom Standards after talking to the Yamaha customer service guy. That quote about sums it up right there. I tried about everything- higher overall, lower overall, with reso high, reso low, reso unison- and decided it must be a combination of me and those drums, since I wasn't having trouble with other drums. I will leave them on and sell them, and figure out what to put on my new Sonors...
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:39 AM
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I'm currently using Evans Hydraulics on my set and they sound great. I have also used remo and they didn't give my set the sound they have now. Having said that, I have used some g2 heads and wasn't totally thrilled about them. I think its in a lot of ways also about how you like to tune and the sound you expect out of your drums.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:01 PM
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I'm currently using Evans Hydraulics on my set and they sound great. I have also used remo and they didn't give my set the sound they have now. Having said that, I have used some g2 heads and wasn't totally thrilled about them. I think its in a lot of ways also about how you like to tune and the sound you expect out of your drums.

I've never tried the hydraulics before. How would you describe their sound and feel?
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:04 AM
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super job on that vid... it really highlights everything well, and the playing is consistent and short enough to hear the differences easily

now you need to do the other brands : )
cheers davezedlee appreciate that! i guess i'll try to find some time to negotiate a bit of studio time and some heads to try - im really interested in aquarian because i've not had the best experience before.. like to give them a shot.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:04 PM
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I guess I have just had good luck with Evans. I had one issue with my puresound snare wires that they are sorting out now - that aside no issues.

I am not an endorsed guy (yet) so it's not like I have a bias. Anyone who is working their gear will at some point run into issues. For example my Iron Cobra pedal was rendered useless by a screw that cost pennies.
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It's not just you, I bought some clear G14's and while they tune up fine they sound papery like a clear Remo Ambassador.
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I've never tried the hydraulics before. How would you describe their sound and feel?
They feel soft and sound deep and fat. They are nice heads, and easy to tune.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:50 PM
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I have a new Mapex Meridian Maple kit coming any day now and I bought a pack of 360 G2 clears that I'm going to put on the toms. I've never played Evans heads on my toms before. I've used them on my snares and liked them. My first maple kit as well so we'll see how they sound.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:38 PM
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I don't know about these heads sounding thin....I haven't experienced that. But I do wonder if they changed the coating on the coated heads. One particular brand new coated G2 head on one of my snares sounds kind of dead, like the coating is too thick or something.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:40 PM
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I don't know about these heads sounding thin....I haven't experienced that. But I do wonder if they changed the coating on the coated heads. One particular brand new coated G2 head on one of my snares sounds kind of dead, like the coating is too thick or something.
We haven't changed anything with the coating in at least 18 months. What are you using for comparison (in terms of the sound of the G2 on your snare)? How high are you tuning it?
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:40 AM
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I don't know about these heads sounding thin....I haven't experienced that. But I do wonder if they changed the coating on the coated heads. One particular brand new coated G2 head on one of my snares sounds kind of dead, like the coating is too thick or something.
Basically the same problem I and many other have had. Unfortunately most inexperienced drummers blame it on their tuning abilities not knowing any better. It really doesn't sound probable until it becomes a very real and personal problem with some of their drum heads.

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Old 07-25-2013, 06:45 PM
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Basically the same problem I and many other have had. Unfortunately most inexperienced drummers blame it on their tuning abilities not knowing any better. It really doesn't sound probable until it becomes a very real and personal problem with some of their drum heads.

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Yes and no. I'm always amazed by the point of reference that some people use when judging heads. I've literally had people comparing Hydraulics to G1s before. In order to determine what the issue is (if any at all), I need to better understand where someone is coming from with their descriptions. Since drum sounds tend to be quite subjective and qualitative, it takes a bit more digging to get the right info. That being said, I'm not throwing on the possibility of an issue, just doing my best to diagnose it.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:51 AM
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We haven't changed anything with the coating in at least 18 months. What are you using for comparison (in terms of the sound of the G2 on your snare)? How high are you tuning it?
I'm comparing them to all my other snares, which are a mix of Coated Emps and coated G2's. I tune all my snares basically the same, tight reso, tight batter, tight snare wires for a gunshot type sound. What I really need to do is swap heads with a snare that has a newer Evans head that doesn't sound dead. I will try and do that, so I can troubleshoot if it is the head or if it's my drum.
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