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Old 03-22-2013, 04:38 AM
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It'd be fun for us to have a forum war- not so much for the mods or Bernhard.
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:45 AM
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Sheesh, Henri, there goes our surprise attack! :)
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Instead of a forum war, how about a drum off? Our best player against their best player. Beats a baseball game. Who is our best player? SickRick?
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Instead of a forum war, how about a drum off? Our best player against their best player. Beats a baseball game. Who is our best player? SickRick?
Our best? We have lots of really good ones. There are several pros on here and there are tons of good drummers not as well known on here. I haven't seen the quality of the other forums so I wouldn't know about that.

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If we gonna have a war, should we warn them?

We have the most powerful and destructive fighter the world of drumming has ever know... they might as well surrender now :)

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You've outdone yourself this time Henri- a "normal" person would have stopped at lasers just coming out of the eyes! : )
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:51 AM
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If we gonna have a war, should we warn them?

We have the most powerful and destructive fighter the world of drumming has ever know... they might as well surrender now :)

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We'll call her the Mar-inator. Inspired by the Fem-Bots. You go girl!
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:56 AM
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Just give the guy a chance.People do change on occasion,and everybody need a second chance(or third,forth ect) once in a while.

Everybody has the right to throw thenselves under the bus,without any help from anyone else.

Poke ANYBODY with a stick often enough,and you'll see something in that person,you haven't seen before.

We all live in glass houses,but not all of us realize it.Just my 2 cents.

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At least Glen is passionate about drums and drumming. And I think he recently aquired a Gretsch -)
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:13 AM
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How many chances does a person need?
The problem with Glen is - there's (at least) 2 of them.
And you never know whether you're talking to/dealing with Glen-Jekyll or Glen-Hyde.
One of them is a friendly guy, the other... ugh. No need being too diplomatic.

As for the talk on that other drum forum... Personally I couldn't care less.
Jared... I respect and appreciate what he's been doing with his free lessons and his current project. (I do have a few of their packages but I feel I don't need any more of those.) But his brainfart claiming to be the inventor of the single handed roll and talking Johnny Rabb down is inexcusable.

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Just been out of the country for a few days, & low & behold, a "Sticks" thread!

I got the PM's this time round too. I promised not to out him, as he was supposedly just reading posts. Nothing wrong with that, but I had no Idea he was PMing other members too. Glen feels this forum is very "clicky", & operates at the exclusion of others. I suppose it's easy to mistake a group of enthusiastic posters who just happen to get along, for some sort of exclusive club - if you're centered on it.

I couldn't believe Larry got berated for expressing an opinion about drums on a drum forum. Strange eh. Just for the record, the content of Glen's PM's to me were not insulting, but the subject matter was fairly predictable.



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Old 03-22-2013, 01:24 PM
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We'll call her the Mar-inator. Inspired by the Fem-Bots. You go girl!
He he...the Mar-inator. I like it.
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Just for the record, the content of Glen's PM's to me were not insulting, but the subject matter was fairly predictable.



Markadiddle - welcome - & you may want to drag these to your desktop for later use ;)
Let me guess, Guru drums bad, Mapex Saturns good?
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:08 PM
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Well, I have communicated with him on dc, and he has said nothing offensive that I have seen, and people there love his 13 kits. Maybe he has changed... I am making sure not to say anything to set him off though.

I am also glad I was not involved in the previous situations. It may sometimes be fun to engage in heated discussions, but it can sometimes hurt down the line.
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Just been out of the country for a few days, & low & behold, a "Sticks" thread!

I got the PM's this time round too. I promised not to out him, as he was supposedly just reading posts. Nothing wrong with that, but I had no Idea he was PMing other members too. Glen feels this forum is very "clicky", & operates at the exclusion of others. I suppose it's easy to mistake a group of enthusiastic posters who just happen to get along, for some sort of exclusive club - if you're centered on it.

I couldn't believe Larry got berated for expressing an opinion about drums on a drum forum. Strange eh. Just for the record, the content of Glen's PM's to me were not insulting, but the subject matter was fairly predictable.



Markadiddle - welcome - & you may want to drag these to your desktop for later use ;)
Thanks for the welcome! I guess I never understood being "clicky" in a forum. We're all on a quest to become better drummers. Why not help one another? Isn't that what these forums are for? I understand that yes, sometimes egos and pride get in the way. Sometimes people just have to agree to disagree and move on. I join these forums to try and learn and gain experience from others. I also like to share what I know in hopes that it might help others.

Glen has been nothing but a nice guy over on the other forum. I don't really want to have any preconceived notions when it comes to the guy. Innocent until proven guilty. I should have realized that from the start. If the guy does turn in to Glen-Jekyll or Glen-Hyde, well, that's for the mods to sort out. It's easy enough to ignore trolls.
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Sticks has succeeded in his goal, to bring Saturn drums to the forefront. Everybody here, thanks to Glen, is aware of Saturn drums, with their walnut interior ply now. Hey, he educated me and I've read enough from other drummers to conclude that Mapex got it right with the Saturns.

But it's a broken record on a treadmill. personally, I'm totally sick of it. We've been down that road a hundred times, and the scenery is exactly the same, so is the destination. Anything positive said about any other brand, and Glen for some reason takes it as a slap to Saturns. Which it isn't.

Myself, I'm totally sick of the brand of drums being the most important thing. The brand of drums isn't even on the list of things that makes a great drummer, at least in my mind. The drummer is the important thing. The drum brand is just a necessary thing that drummers have to deal with.

It's a very shallow view of drumming when the brand of drums takes the lions share of thought energy.

Glen I know you are reading this. You've made your point in a thousand different threads. We get it, mission accomplished. It would be so refreshing to move on to a different focus, something not gear related. I wonder if you're on the Mapex payroll sometimes.

While outwardly, it may seem that there is a "clique" of regular posters, and really, there's no way to escape that impression, it's not a closed loop. New blood is encouraged by all. Look at the warm reception Markadiddle got. That is not the hallmark of a "clique", where "outsiders" are discouraged.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:17 PM
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While outwardly, it may seem that there is a "clique" of regular posters, and really, there's no way to escape that impression, it's not a closed loop. New blood is encouraged by all. Look at the warm reception Markadiddle got. That is not the hallmark of a "clique", where "outsiders" are discouraged.
DW members have all been amazingly open and tolerant to me since joining. I think this is true of most new members however as a new member you also have to be willing to put yourself out there and join in on the conversations. If someone expects to be a part of the group without participating on a semi-intelligent, non-threatening level themselves, then of course they are not going to feel like they fit in. It's really all about what YOU make your experience to be.

For me, I've found a great little family of drumming friends here that are among some of the finest people I've met. Now I just wish I could meet some of you fine people in person...anyone want to buy a poor gal a plane ticket to England? :P
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anyone want to buy a poor gal a plane ticket to England? :P
Sure! When are we going? I gotta ask my wife first.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:17 PM
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Heck Sticks/Glen almost got me to pull the trigger on a Mapex kit. I was sooo close.

He may be the Lindsay Lohan of drum forums. Nice, then in trouble, on endless probations. Oh Canada....
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"the Lindsay Lohan of drum forums"

That Sir, wins quote of the day!
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So I go to Drumchat for the first time ever, and the first thing I read is “the worlds greatest...” “Worlds”? Really? How many worlds are we talking about? I thought drumming was pretty much confined to Earth. Guess they showed me!

Okay, okay, I know that’s a bit anal of me. But seriously, if the very first thing I read is blatantly sloppy, why would I look much deeper?

I think I’ll stick with Drummerworld, thank you very much.
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Don't knock until you've tried it, my friend. DC is a very nice, family friendly forum. We really don't need to start a forum war.
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...anyone want to buy a poor gal a plane ticket to England? :P
If I win the lottery, consider it done Mary :)

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Sure! When are we going?
I'm guessing October time, destination London, the venue will be the London Drum Show!

Quite a few members are going to meet at the Guru's booth from everywhere in the world, UK, America, France, Australia, Germany... and maybe from Switzerland too, fingers crossed :)

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"going to meet at the Guru's booth"

gah! are you going on about Guru AGAIN!!

it's like there are no other drum manufacturers in the world!
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"going to meet at the Guru's booth"

gah! are you going on about Guru AGAIN!!

it's like there are no other drum manufacturers in the world!
Well are there?

Just kidding. If only I had the money...

Hey Andy, how about an endorsement:)
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Just checked out Sticks’s thread over there. About converting his barn to a drum room. And I must say the following: Holy s#!t that looks sweet! If you don’t want to be insanely jealous, don’t go look at it.
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"going to meet at the Guru's booth"

gah! are you going on about Guru AGAIN!!

it's like there are no other drum manufacturers in the world!
Well, there's a lot of talking about Mapex and badges in this thread, so I thought it would be nice to have a balanced approach, Mapex being much, much better drums than Guru of course... but Guru's have much, much smaller badges :)



Just kidding, has it happens for those who don't know (lol) Guru's booth is attended by 2 of our finest members here, Andy and Dean, it is somehow "normal" that their booth will be the meeting point, after we meet, no doubt everyone will rush to the Mapex booth...
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Just checked out Sticks’s thread over there. About converting his barn to a drum room. And I must say the following: Holy s#!t that looks sweet! If you don’t want to be insanely jealous, don’t go look at it.
It does look good. He even has a half pipe in there. He mentioned turning a silo into a weight room. That would be awesome.
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It does look good. He even has a half pipe in there. He mentioned turning a silo into a weight room. That would be awesome.
I’d probably keep the silo completely empty and use it as a reverb chamber for recording.
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Don't knock until you've tried it, my friend. DC is a very nice, family friendly forum. We really don't need to start a forum war.
Just curious though, does this imply other forums are 'family unfriendly'?

Plenty of folks on here, myself included, have wives and kids, and we only cuss when provoked or required. lol

I've been on DC, nice people, nice forum, my reason for changing was that open, healthy debate seemed to be frowned upon or held in check. Debate and exchange are what forums should be about, with nothing personal. But I am on no soapbox, and no forum warrior am I.
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Just curious though, does this imply other forums are 'family unfriendly'?
That's code for conservative.
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... my reason for changing was that open, healthy debate seemed to be frowned upon or held in check. Debate and exchange are what forums should be about ...
I spent about a year on there before coming here and that was my exact experience, too. This place was like a big breath of fresh air and I haven't been back to DC since.
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Just curious though, does this imply other forums are 'family unfriendly'?
No, it is how I wrote it. Nothing implied. Please don't put meaning to my words that aren't there.

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DC uses filtering software for that. Understandably so because there are people of all ages that are members. Don't get me wrong, I swear plenty. But I don't need my kids reading inappropriate content.

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I have never experienced that over there. I have had plenty of debates there. People maintain a fun, professional and adult-like attitude. I'm not saying that it isn't like that here, so please do not interpret it that way. :)

I keep saying this over and over again(I'm starting to sound like a broken record) We are all drumming bretheren(and sisters too!) who are all on the same journey.

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That's code for conservative.
I spent about a year on there before coming here and that was my exact experience, too. This place was like a big breath of fresh air and I haven't been back to DC since.
We are all different individuals and we all have our own preferrences. I choose to seek out as many sources as I can in my journey, whether it is here, DC or any other forum. Why limit yourself?
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Man, I'm so disappointed that I was a member here during "Stick's Last Stand" and I was completely unaware he was offending people. I feel like I was looking at the wrong part of a stage when something crazy happens and everyone else experienced it but me, even though I was sitting in the crowd...
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No, it is how I wrote it. Nothing implied. Please don't put meaning to my words that aren't there.
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For sure...and thats why I asked the question. No harm intended.
I didn't want to remain ignorant of what "family friendly" meant.
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For sure...and thats why I asked the question. No harm intended.
I didn't want to remain ignorant of what "family friendly" meant.
Ok, I guess I was reading into your post more than I should have. I read your post like you were trying to state that I said this forum was family un-friendly. My apologies.

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I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination on drumming forums, but I have seen plenty where members flame one another, trolls are everywhere, swearing, inappropriate pics, etc. I don't really need my kids experiencing any of that.

Yes, DC is a very conservative forum. Nothing wrong with that at all. It is just another source of info out there. I have made friends with numerous individuals on the board and have even met one in person. He and I are now good friends who really enjoy drumming. I hope to make some friends here as well in hopes that there is some good knowledge exchange going on. :)
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After seeing each forum I would say dc is a more family oriented forum. There are more strict moderators and if you wanted an 8 year old drummer to interact it would be a good place to go. Dw is a lot more diverse and being a very large forum it occasionally attracts trolls and losers, the moderators do a good job weeding them out but it is impossible to get all of it out. I prefer dw because of more time spent here and I know more people here. I don't have a problem with dc though and they seem like nice people. This isn't one forum vs another, each has its own advantages and disadvantages. Some people probably do better there while others will enjoy it more here.
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Yes, DC is a very conservative forum. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Y’mean other than being conservative? (Couldn’t resist the almost-reference to The Big Lebowski.)
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Y’mean other than being conservative? (Couldn’t resist the almost-reference to The Big Lebowski.)
Problem with people being conservative? If everyone was out there this would be a very different world.

Not being too serious but still variety is good, and if some weren't more conservative or more "modern" or whatever else you want to use to describe them it would be very boring.
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After seeing each forum I would say dc is a more family oriented forum. There are more strict moderators and if you wanted an 8 year old drummer to interact it would be a good place to go. Dw is a lot more diverse and being a very large forum it occasionally attracts trolls and losers, the moderators do a good job weeding them out but it is impossible to get all of it out. I prefer dw because of more time spent here and I know more people here. I don't have a problem with dc though and they seem like nice people. This isn't one forum vs another, each has its own advantages and disadvantages. Some people probably do better there while others will enjoy it more here.
Well said sir! :)

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...variety is good, and if some weren't more conservative or more "modern" or whatever else you want to use to describe them it would be very boring.
+1 to that.

And extend the concept to different musical styles, food, haircuts, and cultures in general.
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