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Old 01-04-2013, 03:01 AM
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18" Jazz/pop

The average size from this poll from above is:

21.8"

Which is why every manufacturer assumes we want 22" kick!!!!

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Then someone has to explain the penchant for the 23" bass drum ;)
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:20 PM
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Then someone has to explain the penchant for the 23" bass drum ;)
23" makes sense to me, even more so, 21", but good luck with head choices :( We'd build 21" bass drums in a heartbeat (screw fashion) if there was head availability.
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About sizes - seems like there's plenty of choices now for finding something comfortable to play without having to go all oddball for the sake of uniqueness.
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I play everything from Jazz to Metal and use a 22" for everything.
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About sizes - seems like there's plenty of choices now for finding something comfortable to play without having to go all oddball for the sake of uniqueness.
I agree - mostly. My inclination towards a 21" bass drum has nothing to do with "uniqueness" though, & everything to do with knowing it offers a superb combination of weight of tone, & articulation. Not going to happen though (heads).
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I agree - mostly. My inclination towards a 21" bass drum has nothing to do with "uniqueness" though, & everything to do with knowing it offers a superb combination of weight of tone, & articulation. Not going to happen though (heads).
I'd be all over a 21" if anyone made heads for it other than special order.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:09 PM
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I'd be all over a 21" if anyone made heads for it other than special order.

Why? - Is it some kind of 'sweet spot' between 20 and 22 or something? Can't say that I ever saw or heard a 21" bass drum. Probably be interesting though.

I like 18's and 20's, so a 19 might be kind of cool too.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:35 PM
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We currently use a 22"x18" as the studios main kit. However, growing up as a jazz drummer, I loved the sound of the 20"x18"...

As far as my genre is concerned...like I said, I grew up playing jazz, but I am mainly a fusion player. Funk, Latin, Gospel, and Jazz are my main areas.

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Why? - Is it some kind of 'sweet spot' between 20 and 22 or something? Can't say that I ever saw or heard a 21" bass drum. Probably be interesting though.

I like 18's and 20's, so a 19 might be kind of cool too.
Because I love the sound and lower fundamental note of a 22", but I also love the snappy speed of my 20". I think it would give me a bit more low-end umph for not much tradeoff in response.

if you glance back over the thread, it's not that such a drum exists, but that we'd be interested to see one exist, if someone then committed to making heads for it on a regular production basis. And if it were a Guru kit with a 21"... you better bet I'd be all over it!
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:47 PM
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Two entries from me I suppose...

Prog - 22"

Alt. - 18"

Andy, I've always toyed with the idea of a 21" BD shell. It might be interesting to do the whole gong-tom thing with the over sized head. I bet you (if someone made heads for it), that a 21-10-12-14-14 shell pack would sell itself. ;)

How about a 25" bass drum anyone?

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Old 01-04-2013, 06:50 PM
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I think DW offered a 21 or a 23 " bass drum shell.I don't think they were flying off the shelf.:)

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DW offered (offer?) a 23" shell. I like the principle but I would imagine finding heads that aren't special order is very difficult and naturally, your choices are much more limited.

At least with vintage Premier drums you can find the pre-international heads when Remo do a run of them!
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DW's 23" bass drum is pretty dang cool. I liked the one I played at the shop a lot.
A big sound is possible like a 24, but it had the action of a 22, with a bit nicer feel.
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With jazz I prefer an 18 for small groups. If it is a big band for example I want something larger. (I already voted earlier)

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23" makes sense to me, even more so, 21", but good luck with head choices :( We'd build 21" bass drums in a heartbeat (screw fashion) if there was head availability.

My inclination towards a 21" bass drum has nothing to do with "uniqueness" though, & everything to do with knowing it offers a superb combination of weight of tone, & articulation. Not going to happen though (heads).
Andy, I'm thinking out loud here, so forgive me if I'm talking from my behind, could a shell in a shell work? Say a 22" x 16" shell with another shell of 21" x 17" inserted into the 22", with a system which secure the smaller shell inside the bigger one, the fact that the smaller shell is 1" deeper than the bigger one, 22" heads could fitted on batter and reso with a 22" hoop but touching simultaneously all bearing edges (22" & 21" or 20", 18" for that matter). The smaller shell would give most of sound, no?

It can also reverted back to a 22" in minutes by removing the smaller shell.

What do you think, possible? or I am totally dreaming :)

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Old 01-05-2013, 01:59 AM
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....Oh! ...Cool, I can't wait to meet the new agent and say hello...

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A 21" bass drum is sounding like a great idea. Never really thought about it till this thread.
I have a definite liking for 21" rides though. One case with wheels, and a rigid divider for a couple rides would travel well.
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Hello,

Rock (and more): 24".
More bottom, more fun.

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Henri, I'm noticing a similarity between your glassy death stare and Elijah Wood's glassy death stare in Sin City ... less heat, cooler and more calculated ... and deadly ...

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Juergen, you're #95. I guess someone will be looking for a prize at #100 ... I'll give you your own special graph :)
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Andy, I'm thinking out loud here, so forgive me if I'm talking from my behind, could a shell in a shell work? Say a 22" x 16" shell with another shell of 21" x 17" inserted into the 22", with a system which secure the smaller shell inside the bigger one, the fact that the smaller shell is 1" deeper than the bigger one, 22" heads could fitted on batter and reso with a 22" hoop but touching simultaneously all bearing edges (22" & 21" or 20", 18" for that matter). The smaller shell would give most of sound, no?

It can also reverted back to a 22" in minutes by removing the smaller shell.

What do you think, possible? or I am totally dreaming :)

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Andy

You should mention your 20" x 12" Guru kick, which is my kinda drum as it weights about 2 lb, no seriously it's practically lighter than air.

And of course it sounds killer.

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You should mention your 20" x 12" Guru kick, which is my kinda drum as it weights about 2 lb, no seriously it's practically lighter than air.

And of course it sounds killer.

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That sounds like a dream... my 22" Saturn bass drum weighs I'd say 50 or 55 pounds WITHOUT the tom mount. The hell of it is, it still manages to walk all over the stage :\
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I'm surprised I've never responded to this one (see, I can still surprise myself sometimes). Because I play a lot of styles (rock, jazz, funk & fusion) and because I've really never had the room to have more than one kit at a time, I've been going through a lot of kits the past few years, with multiple tom setups and bass drum sizes. But I've finally found a kit that I think works well for pretty much everything I play:

20x16 bass drum, along with a 12x8 tom and 14x14 & 16x16 floor toms.

I sort of based this on a kit I saw Stanton Moore playing once, which were all these same sizes except for an 18" bass drum. While I love the sound of 18's, I wanted something just a little larger to cover more bases (boy, that was a really bad pun).
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Metal

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I play metal. 20x18 kick.
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We fell short of the 100 replies target but close enough. Pretty clear how things go and most seem to agree that the genre marketed shell packs ("rock kit", "jazz kit") reinforce the norms:
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We fell short of the 100 replies target but close enough. Pretty clear how things go and most seem to agree that the genre marketed shell packs ("rock kit", "jazz kit") reinforce the norms :
Interesting results.......

Surprised to see such a small population of 20" users.

Not surprised to see only 13% make up the people who say they play jazz here. Seemed for a while this group was beginning to accumulate in numbers but it leveled off.
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I play indie with a 20" bass drum. I've been playing it so long that every time I happen to play a 22" now it's absolutely shocking haha.
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I think I'm the anomaly here. I finally brought out my 16x26 bass drum for my first rehearsal for my school kids shows and dang it I'll be the first one to say that drum works for everything. We went from show tunes, to country, to rock n roll, to jazz, to heavy modern dance numbers, and that bass drum sounds great in all of them. It's like a bigger (alot bigger) 22".
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Surprised to see such a small population of 20" users.

Not surprised to see only 13% make up the people who say they play jazz here. Seemed for a while this group was beginning to accumulate in numbers but it leveled off.
Bear in mind that I've only recorded people's main genres and BD sizes. Early on there was a fair bit of (understandable) bellyaching about having to choose a single genre.


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I think I'm the anomaly here. I finally brought out my 16x26 bass drum for my first rehearsal for my school kids shows and dang it I'll be the first one to say that drum works for everything. We went from show tunes, to country, to rock n roll, to jazz, to heavy modern dance numbers, and that bass drum sounds great in all of them. It's like a bigger (alot bigger) 22".
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I'd have to say metal because 2/3 of the bands I worked with ended up being metal bands.

the bass drum is a 24" diameter x 22" depth. way too big for my liking. If I had the option I'd downsize to a 22' or ideally a 20" asap.

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do the advertised shell pack reinforce the norms because drummers buy the shell packs thinking that they'll fit their genre (self-fulfilled prophecy type of thing)? or do the genres call for the shell sizes?
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We always have real difficulty describing our genre. I guess it's Indie rock/pop. I play a 20x24.
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Ady, I had a listen to your stuff. I'd say "Other" - not much rock in there. Good sounding band.

Henri - you put my head on a man's body. You've put that poor head of mine into all sorts of invidious places!
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Rock 22". I also have an 18" which is used mostly at rehearsal but have used it live.
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