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Old 11-02-2012, 02:51 PM
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Tamadrm.

That's good to hear. Anthony's not the tallest of guys, so I was concerned about flood levels ;) Imagine the mouse panic if Disney California suffered the same fate ;) ;) ;)
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:41 AM
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I am happy to hear that the NY Marathon has been cancelled after all. It restores a little more faith in humanity. All is not lost.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:06 AM
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Scientists in denial. Really nothing on the national news, television networks. Endless hours of titillating coverage and nothing at all. Really sad. They just chalk it up to "it's natural." Climate change isn't meaningfully discussed. Presidential candidates ignore it. Why? Follow the money. While towns are wiped out politicians can rest easy knowing that the oil companies who bankroll their campaigns will always be there as long as they keep delaying and delaying meaningful discussion and action concerning global warming. They can be "inconclusive" forever and just let our grandkids deal with it. Pathetic.

Now back to drumming.
You're a little off the track here. I work with climate scientists. NONE of these scientists are in denial AT ALL. What they say is true, hurricanes are simply natural phenomena. They are small scale events ....those on a time and length scale that cannot be predicted by any climate models. This is also why we cannot predict weather. What climate models of Weaver and Oppenheimer DO tell us, is extreme events such as Sandy become more common with climate change. Their prediction on this ring true, and its obviously happening in our lifetime. None of them are in denial on this. They simply could not predict Sandy or its magnitude itself.

Politicians are voted in. If you want action of global change, vote in candidates who have the courage to put it on the table. Challenge a political system in which millions of campaign dollars need to be raised (from corporations with deep pockets) in order to run for office.

Sadly Katrina, Sandy etc. may at some point get these folks to wake up...its costing $50 billion.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:38 PM
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I wonder how hurricane Sandy compares to hurricane Andrew and Katrina in terms of dollar damage. I'm thinking it's the biggest dollar loss because of the sheer size of it.

I'm still without power. I found out that there are only 7 people on the circuit I'm on that are still powerless, which means we will be among the last to get restored. Crews concentrate on the circuits with the most people out as priority. Thank god for my generator.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:58 PM
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It just underscores the importance of being prepared somehow and in someway. I have two weeks worth of camping food and water purification tablets tucked away in my car. When I was in cold country, I kept a small unopened bottle of peppermint schnapps under the driver's seat just in case I broke down or slid into a tree or something. My mom has always had her earthquake preparation kit in her car for as long as I can remember. It included waterproof matches, etc. My biggest fear is not having coffee any more. On top of all the hysteria, I'm going to have the most raging headache if I have to quit caffeine all the sudden. Maybe I should store a few weeks worth of Guarana too.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:02 PM
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When I was in cold country, I kept a small unopened bottle of peppermint schnapps under the driver's seat just in case I broke down or slid into a tree or something.
Good to be prepared, as long as one is not into the schnapps under your seat before you slide into a tree.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:06 PM
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I wonder how hurricane Sandy compares to hurricane Andrew and Katrina in terms of dollar damage. I'm thinking it's the biggest dollar loss because of the sheer size of it.

I'm still without power. I found out that there are only 7 people on the circuit I'm on that are still powerless, which means we will be among the last to get restored. Crews concentrate on the circuits with the most people out as priority. Thank god for my generator.
Yep its size, and made landfall in such a populated area, with all the commerce.

Still no power? You had good forsight to have a generator ready. Many never thought to have any backup. Tell your spouse everybody on DW thinks it was so smart of you to have a generator, even if she thinks it stinks. I live in an earthquake prone area and Sandy has made me think to kept a generator for out in our shed too.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:33 AM
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Good to be prepared, as long as one is not into the schnapps under your seat before you slide into a tree.
Exactly. I hear ya.

No. I never drink and drive. Never had a DUI either.

So, no Steve yet? bummer, let's hope he is OK.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:00 AM
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Still no news from Steve?...
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:06 AM
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Seems a lot of New Yorkers still don't have power. Steve's probably one of them ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...m-wait-shelter
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:42 AM
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Finally got power restored. 12 hours short of an entire week without power. My marriage survived, stronger than ever I might add. Not without almost splitting for 5 minutes though lol. Women...so dramatic. What's up with that gals? You all got some 'splaining to do....
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:45 AM
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:52 AM
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Finally got power restored. 12 hours short of an entire week without power. My marriage survived, stronger than ever I might add. Not without almost splitting for 5 minutes though lol. Women...so dramatic. What's up with that gals? You all got some 'splaining to do....
MAN you are hilarious! choked on my beer on that one.
Another nor'easter coming, hope it doesn't take out Sandy-weakened trees.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:18 AM
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What's up with that gals? You all got some 'splaining to do....
Lazza, there's a one word 'splanation: men.

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PS. Good that your power's back and you took advantage of the blackouts.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:36 AM
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Finally got power restored. 12 hours short of an entire week without power. My marriage survived, stronger than ever I might add. Not without almost splitting for 5 minutes though lol. Women...so dramatic. What's up with that gals? You all got some 'splaining to do....
Larry - glad to hear you finally got power back. It's frustrating not knowing when the power is coming back. The electric companies just give you a general guestimate. It's one thing to be out for a few hours or even a day or two. When it gets past that timeframe, that makes things very difficult, especially for those who are not prepared at all.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:44 PM
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Whew..helloow all....I just got power back an hour ago.I was one of the lucky ones.No damage to my home,but my daughter lost everything.Nothing any longer to go home too.Its just gone.She and the fam are with my son who has a big place and power..

I don't know what you've heard,but certain parts of Queens and Staten Island no longer exist.Over 40,000 homeless.To really help matters,a noreaster blew through last night with 40-50MPH winds,and 3 " of snow.

I was hooked up to a small generator,enough for a light and the radio for me and my neighbor.Some one siphoned all of my gas out of my Jeep.I hope he needed it more than I did.

Disaster relief was slow in coming.The NYPD,FDNY,Sanitation,EMS were real troopers.A lot of lives were saved..some real heroic stuff.Cops and firemen pulling people off of roof tops,with downed electric lines sparking right next to them.The tidal surge was stronger and larger than predicted,and came further inland than expected.It was also much faster moving

I helped out were ever I could,mostly going from door to door checking to make sure nobody was trapped or needed medical help.Food and gasoline were and still are in short supply.

Like I said,I'm not sure of what the media said about this,but in some parts of the tri-state ares,it was as bad as it could possibly get.This storm was actually worse than predicted,and anyone that says otherwise is a liar.

That was something I never want to live through again...and I was one of the lucky ones.

The death toll on Staten Island alone was 25,including a long time friend of mine who I knew from Boy Scouts.

Thank you to those concerned about my safety,but it'll take more then a hurricane to take me out.

Nice to hear also that the Americans (next time,spell it with a capitol A) are causing all the global warming.American industry is certainly part of the problem,but there's enough blame to go around.It reminds me of something about throwing stones,and living in glass houses.

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Old 11-08-2012, 10:15 PM
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Great to hear you're ok Steve, I was (along with others) concerned for your wellbeing. Sorry to hear of your daughter's plight, & most terrible news about your old friend.

Anyhow, clearly, it's the drumming community that's mostly to blame for global warming. All that energy expelled doing Youtube drum covers is heating up basements around the planet ;)

I'm lobbying for a BPM limit :)
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:48 PM
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Steve,

Glad to hear you're back up and running. Very sorry to hear of your daughter's situation and the loss of your friend.

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Old 11-08-2012, 10:50 PM
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Steve B great to hear from you and that you are OK. You were missed. Sad to hear about your daughter and friend. It is really bad. My wife is visiting NYC for 2 months but is in south Harlem, so she fared better than most for power. I'm flying there Saturday.
Anybody who blames one country for global warming does not understand the process. I think the statements on the thread somewhere were to get it on the political agenda of all countries, incl. USA. It won't stop hurricanes anyway.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:03 PM
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Hey Steve. Glad to see you still around. Sorry about your daughter and the great town of Staten Island. We were all pretty pretty worried and the scenes shown on tv were as bad as one could imagine. No there is plenty of global warming blame to go around. Without naming names, I think of one particular country that recently hosted the Olympics. But we can play the blame game later. Glad to see you back. If you need anything let me know. Seriously.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:01 AM
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"Americans" refers to over a nation of over 300 million individuals. Do you think that perhaps describing 300 million people in one grand judgmental sentence might be a tad bit of oversimplification?

Poor dumb Americans don't understand what we're doing to mother Earth. Please.

As a matter of fact, it is being brought up everywhere as a subject. Certainly amongst all but the most staunch opponents.
Are you gonna blame me for something a swedish journalist said? I never uttered my own opinion, but there's sure been a discussion in Sweden about "Americans" and global warming. I'm glad that there obviously has been a discussion in America too.

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Driving an electric car or recycling a few plastic bottles is like spitting in the ocean.
Couldn't disagree more. If we all do our part, we'll be strong together. Många bäckar små, like we say in Sweden.

Steve, I'm glad to hear you're well. I'm very sorry for your daughter's situation...
Of course we're all responsible for the global warming and such. Though, this topic is huge in Sweden - you don't go a day without hearing about the North Pole, or South Pole, or global warming, or carbondioxide, etc.... I have no idea wether the topic is as big in the USA as it is here. There was not a word about it in this presidential election as far as I know. But playing the blame game wasn't my intention at all....

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but it'll take more then a hurricane to take me out.
Never in doubt old mate!!

Glad to see you up and kicking again. Best wishes to those in the family who weren't so lucky.

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Anyhow, clearly, it's the drumming community that's mostly to blame for global warming.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:24 AM
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Hey buddy! Its Sticks! Glad to hear you are ok. What a terrible thing to go through. Hope things work out for your Daughter. I can't imagine loosing everything. It would really be hard. At least you and your family are all ok. Sorry to hear about your buddy! Glen.
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Just to get technical, you're better off without an electric car in terms of 'green' credentials. Batteries are nasty things and it involves a lot of cross-continental transport to build the cars. As a result, they are actually no better ecologically over the time period that most cars are in service for. Add to that the fact that the batteries will need replacing every few years (adding more manufacturing pollution) and it's really a net loss.

Hydrogen cars are a different proposition and one I wholeheartedly support. In the meantime, you're best off maintaining an older car properly and driving it sensibly. It's incredible what changing a few driving habits can do to fuel economy. Driving a manual also helps with this because you are able to control the gears to the best effect (choosing when you change up is key to fuel economy) but even without a manual gearbox, you can shed some weight on your car (throw out the useless things you always carry! We all do it!) and make sure your tyres are at the correct pressures. Keep off the throttle going uphill as much as possible and use your accelerator downhill to add momentum.

That's my lecture for the day.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:38 AM
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Nice to hear from you Steve, it's a relief to know you and your family are OK, very sorry to hear about your Daughter and your long time friend, you're in my thoughts in this sad and dramatic disaster, losing houses and goods is one thing, losing the one we love is another, be strong my friend.

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I forgot my manners! Apologies Steve.

I'm glad you're ok. I really am.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:30 AM
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Steve - we figured you, as a tough Nyawk copper, would get through this. Glad we were right, but a difficult time for your daughter. Hope the rebuild goes well!

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Old 11-09-2012, 01:31 AM
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Count me in with the consensus of...Glad to see ya man! You're right, it's gonna take a hell of a lot more than a hurricane to beat you. I can't believe you've been out of power for 10 days! Holy crap. Your poor daughter...I can't even imagine...and your friend...

Hopefully your daughter will get a ton of insurance money for a new place, but I'm sure she lost some irreplaceable items...It's amazing how utterly dependent we all are on electricity....Made me really think about what if we lost power indefinitely...how we would eat, drink, stay warm, shower, all the stuff we take for granted. It's scary because I don't have the first clue as to how I would provide for my family's needs.....

Actually I do but I just cannot picture myself and my family living in the woods behind me, trapping the game for food and eating the wild vegetation, drinking the creek water.....burning wood to stay warm....we wouldn't be alone, there would be more people in the same boat...it would be a lawless state and I really don't want to think about it anymore..

But it's really great to see you around Steve.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:12 PM
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I just want to say ,,thanks for the warm reguards my friends.I guess my life long camping skills and equipment helped me make it through.I'm off to volunteer with the Red Cross to help with the relief effort.

If you haven't seen the devestation yet,just google Staten Island or New Jersey Hurricane Sandy Photos.It's mind boggleing.There are even before and after photos of the damage.Its look like end of the world stuff.Picture a huge rollercoaster sticking out of the ocean in New Jersey.Boats on top of peoples homes.Roofs of houses floating in the bay.

Maryland and Massachuetts were hit pretty good also.Now I know first hand just what New Orleans went through with Hurricane Katrina.I wish none of you ever have to experience something like this.

Again..thank all of you for your concern.It's much appreciated.

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Glad to see you back Steve B.

Sorry to hear about all the bad news, but good to hear that you handled it well and was able to help others out. I also would like to give a hat tip to those who rescue the animals that were also affected by the devastation.
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