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Old 08-31-2011, 12:23 AM
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Default G1 Vs. Ambassador - What's your pick?

Some people say they are essentially the same head, others say they can detect a difference.

Why do you prefer the G1 or G2 over the Ambassador or Emperor? Clear? Coated?

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Old 08-31-2011, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: G1 Vs. Ambassador - What's your pick?

I like the G2 and Emperor pretty evenly, but I like the sound of an Ambassador better than a G1.
The G1 is nice for a throatier sound, but I like the drier, crispness of an Ambassador.
That's how they sound for me. For someone else, they might sound different.
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:39 PM
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I like the G2 and Emperor pretty evenly, but I like the sound of an Ambassador better than a G1.
The G1 is nice for a throatier sound, but I like the drier, crispness of an Ambassador.
That's how they sound for me. For someone else, they might sound different.
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I've used coated G2's for quite awhile. That head is the head for my 5 x 13 Maple Pork Pie. Just seems to work.
I have a G1 on my '66 Acrolite. Frankly, you have to put effort in to make that drum sound bad. I've tried several heads on that drum including a Remo CS Dot and an Aquarian Satin Texture coated and they all sounded good in different ways. The G1 feels great out of the box for brushes and sounds good but I'm missing a little mojo that I think a Remo Ambassador might give me.

I bought the head at GC for $5 during one of their Memorial Day sales so it was small out of pocket for trying it out.

I've used a few different Evans heads on snares, toms and bass drum. The G1 is probably not at the top of the list for me although a bunch of Evans heads have sounded killer. The Power Center Reverse Dot is especially cool. I have EQ4/EQ3 heads on my Yamaha and they sound great too.

I just started trying Remo's out after a long time not using them so I'm in test mode. I have found that the Remo Ambassadors have a certain sound that I am enjoying right now.

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Old 08-31-2011, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: G1 Vs. Ambassador - What's your pick?

I've found that Remo's coating goes very quickly compared to Evans. So Evans it is for me (except for the PS3 on my bass drum, which is just heavenly).
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:30 AM
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neither, i like aquarian studio x, clear on toms and coated on snares, acording to aquarian the classic clear or the texture coated is the same as the g1 or ambassador , clear and coated respectively, but i like the little bit of control the studio x has with the thin piece of power dot material around the inside edge of the head.
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Old 09-01-2011, 02:28 AM
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I've used all Remo products for more than forty five years until I tried Evans heads. I still do use Remo heads on one of my kits. I've found that the coatings on the Remo products flake off much more redily than the Evans heads. When I bought my last set of drums last year, I didn't have them for a week before the 12" tom was exhibiting a dime sized area where the coating should have been, and I;m not a heavy hitter at all. I love the sound and looks of Remo heads, but the coating issues throughout the years made me go looking elsewhere. I just have too many drums to try to chase the disappearing coatings, lol.

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Old 09-03-2011, 12:14 AM
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I am an Evans guy, but that is just my opinion. I have used the clear G2 over clear G1 on many of my toms, and they have all sounded good. Peace and goodwill.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:55 AM
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The G1 is nice for a throatier sound, but I like the drier, crispness of an Ambassador.
The G1 and Ambo Definitely SOUND different.

The Ambassador to me sounds a little crisper. But I always felt the G1 sounds dryer.


Anyways, 1+ for the Ambassador (even though Evans G1 coated will last 2-3 times as long, I STILL like the remo)
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:38 AM
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I am an Evans guy, but that is just my opinion. I have used the clear G2 over clear G1 on many of my toms, and they have all sounded good. Peace and goodwill.
Interesting. Although the question has to do with G1 vs Ambassador not g2 vs emperor.
Anyway that aside, Drumolator, have you ever tried an Ambassador? What does I am an Evans guy mean anyway? do you work for the company? just curious because you sound very devoted and I was just wondering if you receive free drum heads from Evans.


In regards to the question I'll take a fresh one of each pls. I like em both the same for slightly different reasons.
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Old 09-04-2011, 12:09 AM
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No, I am an English teacher in a public school. I live in the boondocks. Evans heads tune up right out of the box and stay in tune better than any other heads. Ambassadors are good heads, but I prefer the G1. Actually, I miss the Evans Uno 58 1000 single-ply coated head. I have used just about every head out there for toms and snares, bass drum not so much.

Most people seem to think that the more choices the better, but not me. I settled on Evans a while back, and they make enough different heads for me. I still try something else every once in a while. In the same way, I am also a Sabian guy; they have enough choices for me. Peace and goodwill.
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Old 09-04-2011, 12:28 AM
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I like them both equally. I also like the Aquarian single ply contender.
I use both coated and clear, I use both 2 ply and 1 ply coated and clear as batter heads and 1 ply coated and clear reso heads.
The combination depends on the kit, drum, and music style.
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Old 09-04-2011, 12:35 AM
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I like the g2's better than the emperors. Coated. The emperors I used to have sounded kind of dull and were hard to tune. The new g2's added a whole new level of punch and warmth that just blew my mind.

Same with clear g1 instead of ambassador on resonant side.
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: G1 Vs. Ambassador - What's your pick?

Even though I do prefer the SOUND of the Ambassador, I will admit Evans drum Heads (general speak ring) stay in tune and are Easier to tune than their Remo Equivalents.

And their coating Definitely last Longer also (as most people will admit).
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: G1 Vs. Ambassador - What's your pick?

another vote for g1's g2's and evans ST on my snares. Only remo head I ever use is PS3 clear bass heads. I haven't had an issue with an evans snare head and they last why change it up.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:03 AM
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Only remo head I ever use is PS3 clear bass heads.
Hear, Hear! I've successfully switched every head on my kit over to Evans, except this guy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Old 09-06-2011, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: G1 Vs. Ambassador - What's your pick?

Evans fit better, than Remo, on my drums. I can't say " the better fit" makes any difference in sound though
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:09 AM
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I find that on toms I can get a lower tuned sweet spot with the Remos. I feel I have to tune the Evans higher and I prefer a medium low tune. The coating seems better on the Evans, but if they don't sound as good, what's the point?
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:43 AM
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I can hear a difference between them and preferred the G1. I recently tried Aqurian heads and would have to go with the Aqurian texture coated over both of them. as far as coated heads goes.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:12 AM
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The G1 is nice for a throatier sound, but I like the drier, crispness of an Ambassador.


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The G1 and Ambo Definitely SOUND different.

The Ambassador to me sounds a little crisper. But I always felt the G1 sounds dryer.


Anyways, 1+ for the Ambassador (even though Evans G1 coated will last 2-3 times as long, I STILL like the remo)
I had the Evans heads on for quite a while, but the Ambassador lasts just as long for me. I had a set of Coated Amb. heads on a rehearsal kit last at least 4 years before changing them--and they still sounded good. I could have left them, and they probably would have lasted another 6 months (the way they were going), but I thought I should change them anyway.

I've never had any coating problems with any Remo head. I play hard rock and use double butt sticks, and I don't dent Coated Ambassador heads at all either. They are all I use anymore. Bass drum batter as well.

Guys I know (play shows with, sit in, help out etc...) that play lighter than me dent heads all the time. I never get how it happens though, because it just seems weird that they aren't striking the drum hard, and they get dents (in different brand heads too). Happened last Saturday night at a benefit, my band was towards the end of the bill, and by the time I got up there, the Texture Coated Aquarian heads were all dented, and the 12 sounded like paper (16 was OK). I tuned them up for the band who put on the show (one band before I played) and the heads were kind of a mess--and these guys all play lighter than me.

The coating on the Aquarian's held up great though, not a nick on them. Just dents. Could be that (to me) Aquarian's do sound better when the tension is lower, but that would seem to lead to more denting no?

The NEW film Aquarian is using is different than the last 10 years or so, Before that (10 years ago) their film did not dent on me at all. I quite liked their heads and sound. I haven't tried any of the NEW film heads as of yet.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:15 PM
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Neither, Aquarian classic clear or studio x, IMO Remo is the bottom of the barrel these days, they used to be #1 I but find they have riding on their reputation the last few years. With all the dead heads and coating issues its either Evans or Aquarian and I find both equally good and only prefer Aquarian due to the fact they last a bit longer and have a lower price, around here you can almost buy a batter and a reso from Aquarian for the price of an Evans batter.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:21 PM
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Neither, Aquarian classic clear or studio x, IMO Remo is the bottom of the barrel these days, they used to be #1 I but find they have riding on their reputation the last few years. With all the dead heads and coating issues its either Evans or Aquarian and I find both equally good and only prefer Aquarian due to the fact they last a bit longer and have a lower price, around here you can almost buy a batter and a reso from Aquarian for the price of an Evans batter.
Yep, there you go, everyone has a different experience with head models and brands.

Price is (always) a factor, and it's cool when you find something that you like the sound of, works great, AND it's less expensive!

I'm actually baffled why Aquarian heads NOW have a papery sound on my drums, when they DID NOT before. I can only conclude it's the film they use because I have the same drums I used back before the film change.

Evans heads sound nice on my drums, but the Remo CA just has that "X" factor that I like the sound of more.
I also like the sound of the particular Remo snare head I use better than anything from any other brands head offering. It also lasts me about a year of heavy playing before I feel it needs changing. Remo's price is reasonable, and for me at least, they last a long time with no coating issues.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:40 PM
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Evans because of Remo's coating problems (2/3 of the Remos I've owned INSTANTLY de-coat-ified), and because I don't like the glue-crack sound that remos make when they're new (I know its "by-design" but it still bothers me).

I do have a clear PS3 on my kick which is great.

I don't like to be brand-loyal, I want to like Remo, but with heads, I've just run into too many things I don't like about Remo.

I do need to try Aquarian... Just never got around to it...
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:37 PM
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Coated G1's when I'm not using Aquarian Modern Vintage. No more Remo, no need.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:35 PM
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You know, I took a second look at this Remo Ambassador coated head and decided that it really is just my imagination, lol.



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Since I've never had a coating issue with an Ambassador (it's weird, right?) Remo is my choice. I like the sound better, and they're much cheaper than both Evans and Aquarian in my country.
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I'm a little backwards from most in that I'm currently using coated G1 over clear G2. My toms are not dead by any means, tuned what I would say is a happy medium.

My snare that gets the most use has a G14, I wanted a little more durability and less ring than a G1. Gives me a nice woody pop and sensitive snares, tuned tight on both sides.

Even the G1s don't wear very fast for me, I've been on these for months.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:31 PM
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Aquarian coated. Hear me now and thank me later...
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You know, I took a second look at this Remo Ambassador coated head and decided that it really is just my imagination, lol.



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Dennis' pic shows what several people here have had happen (even with other brands). Some have called Remo on it, and they say "bad batch went out etc...etc..."

Other than members on DW, I've only heard one person on another forum complain about this--but I'm not on any other forums but here and Sabian's Zone.

Anyone else that go elsewhere hear about coating problems?

Not that I want it to happen, but, I don't know what I'm doing differently than anyone else. The head is being struck by a stick just like every other head is. There was even a (supposed?) change in the coating.

Seems maybe a little smoother than years prior, but the coating hasn't ever come off on me, and the sound is the same....
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:01 PM
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ambassador all the way. they sound better, are easier to tune, and are more durable. imhe, g1's dent, ambassadors don't. i've not tried aquarian. i recently decided to give evans a try, and they were tricky to tune (on my sonors), which disappointed me, and after the gig, the heads had dents. i was surprised. i've never broken or dented a head in my life. also, the evans heads had an irregular profile, when viewed edge on. after the edge radius, they weren't completely flat, but had a conical section extending toward the center an inch or two. i think that's why they didn't tune particularly well. i replaced all the heads in a back to back, and they all had that same profile. i went back to the ambassadors, played another hard gig, no dents.
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