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Drumsword

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Cruising E-Bay and found this, and was in my budget at the moment......So I snagged it. 19" Zildjian K China, to add to the collection.
 

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As if that will be the only thing you will buy before christmas...

How much did you get it for by the way?

Nice looking cymbal, never heard a K china, what does it sound like?
 
As if that will be the only thing you will buy before christmas...

How much did you get it for by the way?

Nice looking cymbal, never heard a K china, what does it sound like?


LOL, I have 16" and 18" K dark Crashes on the wish list, so I'll have more drum porn to post I'm sure.

I snagged it for $75. I owned a 17" K china years back and it was very loud, and trashy yet with a dark warm tone in decaying wash. So I am hoping this has the same quality. There is a spot or two around the hole that look like they could eventually develop into cracks, so first order of business will be the repair those, but for $75 It could have a 1" crack and I'd fix it and be happy.
 
75 bucks...I can't say it enough, you guys over there get the sweetest deals. Looks very nice, a K China is something I want to own too some day.
 
There is a spot or two around the hole that look like they could eventually develop into cracks, so first order of business will be the repair those, but for $75 It could have a 1" crack and I'd fix it and be happy.

Explain yourself... how are you planning on repairing those?
 
Explain yourself... how are you planning on repairing those?

There is a spot on the edge of the inner hole, that is just barely starting to show the signs of a split, I am just going to drill a 1/16th" hole at the point it is headed into the cymbal OR bore the hole 1/16th to an 8th" larger.
 
Ah... Cool.

Just requires a sharp drill bit right? No special equipment?
 
right, sharp bit, high speed drill preferably and somewhat of a steady hand..lol.
No, you must drill metals with slow speed as high speed creates heat which will take the temper out of the metal. It won't damage the sound of the cymbal, but it will most likly soften the metal at the hole you drilled making it MORE susceptible to further cracking. Yes a drill press would be optimum, low speed, with medium pressure applied, lubricate the bit with cutting oil.

Here's a webpage that might help: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/drillfaq.htm Scroll down to "Drilling Metal".

Also, unless you're a cave man and plan on bashing the begezzus out of the cymbal, you may not have to drill it at all. The center of the cymbal doesn't move very much so I doubt playing it is what cracked it in the first place. I suspect it was bashed into the cymbal stand bolt from being played with a 3A in a heavy metal band or some such silliness.

I have a 16in A crash that I bought with about 4 small cracks at the bell. It was used and cheap and I've had it for a few years now and I play somewhat aggressively on it, and it's one of my MAIN crashes. It's had NO further spread of the cracks and it sounds great.

I would think that a china type would see far less action than a main crash, so I would just play it and inspect it often and IF it ever looks like it's moving, THEN drill it.
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PETE! Merry Christmas Bud, great find and great price...still in the market for some cymbals, but school loans are holding me back now :-(
 
No, you must drill metals with slow speed as high speed creates heat which will take the temper out of the metal. It won't damage the sound of the cymbal, but it will most likly soften the metal at the hole you drilled making it MORE susceptible to further cracking. Yes a drill press would be optimum, low speed, with medium pressure applied, lubricate the bit with cutting oil.

Here's a webpage that might help: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/drillfaq.htm Scroll down to "Drilling Metal".

Also, unless you're a cave man and plan on bashing the begezzus out of the cymbal, you may not have to drill it at all. The center of the cymbal doesn't move very much so I doubt playing it is what cracked it in the first place. I suspect it was bashed into the cymbal stand bolt from being played with a 3A in a heavy metal band or some such silliness.

I have a 16in A crash that I bought with about 4 small cracks at the bell. It was used and cheap and I've had it for a few years now and I play somewhat aggressively on it, and it's one of my MAIN crashes. It's had NO further spread of the cracks and it sounds great.

I would think that a china type would see far less action than a main crash, so I would just play it and inspect it often and IF it ever looks like it's moving, THEN drill it.
Just my 1.4852¢
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Thanks man, I've only ever had to fix 1 other "Used" cymbal that I bought with 6 cracks at the bell, they never progressed further, and Now it is the crash on my daughters set. I personally have never cracked a cymbal as I play them Loud when I need to but very carefully and glancing and china's I rarely lay into as they are loud to begin with. So maybe I'll hold off awhile and see if they lengthen.

Thanks again for the info.
 
No, you must drill metals with slow speed as high speed creates heat which will take the temper out of the metal. It won't damage the sound of the cymbal, but it will most likly soften the metal at the hole you drilled making it MORE susceptible to further cracking. Yes a drill press would be optimum, low speed, with medium pressure applied, lubricate the bit with cutting oil.

Here's a webpage that might help: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/drillfaq.htm Scroll down to "Drilling Metal".

Also, unless you're a cave man and plan on bashing the begezzus out of the cymbal, you may not have to drill it at all. The center of the cymbal doesn't move very much so I doubt playing it is what cracked it in the first place. I suspect it was bashed into the cymbal stand bolt from being played with a 3A in a heavy metal band or some such silliness.

I have a 16in A crash that I bought with about 4 small cracks at the bell. It was used and cheap and I've had it for a few years now and I play somewhat aggressively on it, and it's one of my MAIN crashes. It's had NO further spread of the cracks and it sounds great.

I would think that a china type would see far less action than a main crash, so I would just play it and inspect it often and IF it ever looks like it's moving, THEN drill it.
Just my 1.4852¢
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Most respect the badge, but all fear the drum.

Very good advice. Never use a higher speed than you have to when drilling, to avoid stress and possible damage. Also, a drop of cutting oil - or any oil - will absorb heat.
 
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