i couldn't live without a rack. they save floor space on stage (HUGE BONUS) and they're not even that heavy to transport (just get a long box with wheels).
I'm wondering if I should start saving up to invest in a rack. Basically, I've got 4 cymbals (not including hats) but I am gonna add about 2 or 3 more soon, and I'm wondering if a rack would be worth it. Although they do seem really expensive...
In reference to how a rack can not save time: the answer is in your response - can the rack be transported as is? If you own a truck or van, generally yes you can transport the rack as is. In my car, however, I usually have to tear the rack down to individual bars. Putting those bars back together takes some time. I also can't transport the cymbal holders or tom arms on it. More time taken reclamping all of those on there. So you don't necessarily take *more* time than stands to set up a rack, but possibly just as much if you have to break down and set back up to that level every time.
is that actually yours latz? /drool
In reference to how a rack can not save time: the answer is in your response - can the rack be transported as is? If you own a truck or van, generally yes you can transport the rack as is. In my car, however, I usually have to tear the rack down to individual bars. Putting those bars back together takes some time. I also can't transport the cymbal holders or tom arms on it. More time taken reclamping all of those on there. So you don't necessarily take *more* time than stands to set up a rack, but possibly just as much if you have to break down and set back up to that level every time.
In reference to how a rack can not save time: the answer is in your response - can the rack be transported as is? If you own a truck or van, generally yes you can transport the rack as is. In my car, however, I usually have to tear the rack down to individual bars. Putting those bars back together takes some time. I also can't transport the cymbal holders or tom arms on it. More time taken reclamping all of those on there. So you don't necessarily take *more* time than stands to set up a rack, but possibly just as much if you have to break down and set back up to that level every time.
In reference to how a rack can not save time: the answer is in your response - can the rack be transported as is? If you own a truck or van, generally yes you can transport the rack as is. In my car, however, I usually have to tear the rack down to individual bars. Putting those bars back together takes some time. I also can't transport the cymbal holders or tom arms on it. More time taken reclamping all of those on there. So you don't necessarily take *more* time than stands to set up a rack, but possibly just as much if you have to break down and set back up to that level every time.
If you have memory-clamped everything, including the vertical legs, and you know which tom/cymbal arm has to go in which clamp, it wouldn't take so much time?
And you need time to put your stands on the right place, especially if you have many stands on a small piece of floor. I always have problems with that with my hi-hat stand, effectcymbal stand, and piccolo tom stand (look at the first pic in post 20 of the thread in my signature), so I'm considering buying a Gibraltar Stealth rack for that.
Bram
In reference to how a rack can not save time: the answer is in your response - can the rack be transported as is? If you own a truck or van, generally yes you can transport the rack as is. In my car, however, I usually have to tear the rack down to individual bars. Putting those bars back together takes some time. I also can't transport the cymbal holders or tom arms on it. More time taken reclamping all of those on there. So you don't necessarily take *more* time than stands to set up a rack, but possibly just as much if you have to break down and set back up to that level every time.
I don't have a huge setup
Since neither of us appears able to back off of what we believe to be the case, let us agree to disagree and I'll stop defending my position, since it apparently can't be true, despite the fact that I've been gigging with my large setup and my rack for twenty years now, and know fairly well how long it takes me to set it up.
two minutes per attachment